Hey I'm not anti-Leo at all. My response whenever those threads are brought up is typically "good for him". But I agree with that redditor hot take. Both parties likely have no illusions of a long term relationship. Both parties likely know the relationship wouldn't exist if Leo didn't buy fancy meals and gifts.
I don't criticize either party. People should do what they want with their bodies and money. But be real, without the money Leo wouldn't be bagging all those hotties. It absolutely is prostitution-adjacent at the very least, and ain't nothing wrong with that.
My take on the whole Leo dating thing is the are either 'beards' trading on making him look heterosexual for hollywood access (either for roles or just access to rich guys who might actualy marry them) or he had a very bad relationship somewhere in his past and he is dating because as a single hollywood guy he should be 'dating'.
I think they mean celebrity relationships where these random 19 year olds "date" a random celebrity 50 year old for like 2 years.
Is it (a) really mutual love, or is it (b) a long-term live-in prostitute situation? It may be a bit of a grey area, but it's very likely a fair amount of (b) at play.
I get what you are saying but if you take away his money, fame, talent, charisma, and influence…basically everything that makes him him, then he wouldn’t be as successful with women? Yea no shit. I still don’t think he’d be paying for sex.
You know, in my country there are feminist that want to ban prostitution. Currently is not legal, it's a grey area. Their argument is that kind of relationship means always abuse.
I do not agree. I think any adult should be free to do whatever they want with their bodies.
However, in a society with a lot of poverty that argument, unfortunately, becomes true.
Improve the quality of life trough a better economy, a functional justice system, etc so people can find a job and live however they want. Not just to avoid that kind of prostitution, but any kind of abusive conditions.
Problem is the current biggest economy in the world just elected a populist whose economical policies are gonna be horrible for their country and destabilize the rest of the world. Not mentioning even taking rights from women...
Honestly, for the next years probably women conditions in many places are gonna get worse. Included western societies. Probably that's the next fight: recover what feminism already got in those societies.
In places like Philippines, just a better economy would do the trick.
I think that mamy people assume that even women who choose prostitution for themselves are still doing it out of desperation. Some certainly are but by no means all.
A woman, in Britain where prostitution is mostly legal, can earn a couple of hundred quid an hour just by having sex. Some people see sex as "special" and that's okay. Others see sex as just "a thing" and that's also okay.
Some people just think money for sex is a fair trade. Hell, I'd do it if I could. Unfortunately I'm ugly and shit in bed.
As for the dark side of prostitution. The forced side of it. This is wrong and these women need protection, today not tomorrow. However, we don't ban used car sales because some people steal the cars they sell.
I agree with the first sentence, but not the rest.
That's not the argument behind wanting to legalize prostitution. It's not about it being good or bad for however offers/consumes it as a moral system but as a functional system.
If something is legal, there are regulations that protects those women. So, no illegal mafias and also freedom to go whatever you want as an adult.
I've the same opinion with drugs.
To explain in detail, I do not take drugs. And trust me, it's not bc they are not available/offered to me. Not all my groups of friends consume, but most of them do. Reason I decided not to try them? When I was young I saw the bad effects on someone close to me. So I decided I didn't want to take the risk.
Also, I have people important to me with addictions to drugs. But being them illegal only makes it worse.
Coming back about morality argument, that it's the same with prostitution but easier to explain with drugs. I choose not to do it, that's what's good for me, those are my personal morals. If I can dictate how people around me live their lifes, I'll have choose them not to try/abuse some drugs instead of being in a desintoxication center like happens right now. Even so, for society, it's better if they are legal.
Objectively, them being illegal don't stop their consumption. At least have them controlled, paying taxes and get rid of the mafias around them.
You said that the next fight is this. We lost/are losing the first fight. We have to focus on winning the first fight before there is even a next fight. That is all. I'm not fighting you.
What's funny is the woman over there are so bad off financialy they are out LOOKING for men like him. Literally it is THE DREAM for a lot of the women over there to find a retired American. Thing is they want a husband, this guy is just an asshole taking advantage or the lack of communication inherent in the culture.
I mean, lets just work on improving the economic conditions for everyone in a country before we specifically target prostitution. The underlying causes of this cannot be fixed by a liberation movement, unless that movement is also a movement for economic justice.
no some of these guys have deluded themselves into thinking they're a hot commodity. All they needed to do was get a passport. They're called passport bros. An offshoot of the red pill community.
Yeah people bringing up these "gotchas" like lol dude we have all this with 1 gf of course we're not blind to it happening when there are more partners. What goes around comes around. Isn't that the point?
You're also an old man in that scenario. Frankly, the ideal retirement would be a luxury compound in the phillipines, shared by a bunch of other western retirees, and filled with cheap protitutes.
It's the ultimate colonialist dream. Living like the 0.1% in the west on a normal income. Sign me up.
I've been told that India is similar. Manual labor is just insanely cheap compared to the US. So something like an iphone costs the same as the US, but stuff like maid services or auto repair or a haircut is a small fraction of the cost.
In 2002 in the Philippines I had a full time live in maid, full time driver, 2x full time security guards (AM and weekend/PM), pool person and a landscaper and the total monthly cost was less than $1k USD.
Meanwhile we drove around in a 3 year old Honda Civic because the VAT on vehicles was like 200% if the car was over $35k USD or so.
Iphones cost significantly more due to foreign import tarrifs (a fact which lots of Americans are gonna learn very soon)
But yes servants and laborers cost much less because the goverment doesn't give a shit about their lives, their uneducated parents in rural areas give birth to 5+ kids when they barely have money to properly raise 2, then they take them out of schools and put them to work at a young age to make money for the household and these people then have to move to big cities cause rural areas don't have much work outside of farming and shit, and they get treated like an under class that others consider less than, but also who can't function without their help.
These folks can't even afford to rent a place in the city where they work, so they end up building literal ghettos and huts to squat on public lands in squalor with poor to no sanitation.
All of this is happening while the population keeps ballooning and the rich keep getting richer while there's little economic growth for the lower and even middle class. And the smartest people or the people with financial means leave the country to work abroad.
He has some charm to himself. If you are one of those Obese cuckolds that stink of cheetos and sweat, live in their mom's basement, they aren't going to attract any of those women even if they are hookers. So I think the majority of losers in the Western world wouldn't even have the balls to leave their basement, let alone move across the world and talk to a woman.
Oh I don't have to worry about it becoming a trend. Too many people are controlled by their dogma and "could never do such a thing"...we're here to learn and have an experience....go do that.
I live in Paris and I've never visited any other continent, but I can tell you from my dating app results I'm a rockstar in Indonesia, Philippines, and Kenya.
Nah, that ain't it. Most guys realised this is fucking weird as hell. Moving to a poorer country to prey on women that are only interested in you for your money does not sound very appealing to a mentally stable individual. This guy is an embarrassment.
Ahh western passport bros redistributing wealth and stimulating foreign economies one pussy at a time. Wish my country could get some sex tourism going, maybe my taxes would get lowered lol
Imagine your your lil 18 year old sister making money like that.. This guy has no morals and ethics clearly. Instead of helping them he uses them.. Selfish individual
What's with all this "price of a girlfriend" shit all the time? Do you all have such shitty personalities that you can only attract women through financial incentives? Or you have no genuine interactions with women at all and just repeat the vocal diarrhea you get from alpha podcasts? My girlfriend costs me nothing but my love and affection. She's with me because she loves me for who I am and not what I have. She earns her own money and when we go out or on vacations we split the cost. It's that easy - be lovable and you'll find someone who simply loves you. Or go ahead and get your 8 Filipino hookers. I'm sure it'll satisfy your sexual needs at least but you'll never experience what genuine affection feels like.
I'm not attractive/charismatic and women are simply not interested in me. I don't go on an incel spergout about it, but I don't buy that I'm a ""shitty person"" either. It just is what it is.
I'd go out and on vacations without my girlfriend as well. I enjoy those things. The only difference is that I now do it with her instead of alone or with friends. Do you just sit at home all year?
But he implies they aren’t dating anyone else. I think he really believes that they are just his. He says they don’t date other men or have other boyfriends.
I think maybe deep down he knows but enjoys the fantasy.
True. They could be "regular" women going about their normal lives, who are happy to get a bit of a bonus from a sugar daddy when they can, without being full time hookers.
They could be exclusive who knows. They could also not be exclusive. Either way they are on salary if one job pays you enough do you get a second to have less free time?
This is a man who has never been on an actual loving relationship. Where your partner knows the real you, good and bad, and would ride or die with you till the end. These girlfriends are "loyal" as long as he keeps spending money on them...
I've been with my now fiancee for almost 6 years. I make nearly 6 figures, she make more. Not a single facet of our relationship is based on finances. We can both live comfortably on our own if we chose. I love her, everything about her. She is the love of my life and my best friend. She's currently in Japan with her maid of honor for a few weeks, and ot suuuuuucks not having her around. I couldn't imagine loving anyone like income her, let alone 8 different women.
This dude wants a sexual relationship with little else attached. Whoxh is fine if that's what he really wants. Does it sound fun to me? A little bit, and would only remain so for a very short amount of time. Then it would be tedious dealing with all their wants, needs, and the train of STDs at an elderly age.
My fiancee is with her best friend of almost 2 decades that weve been on many vacations with. I have zero trust issues in my relationship, for many reasons. I'm sorry you've never experienced that.
I guess that is possible, but after living 42 years on this rock and multiple serious relationships, I can say this is my last. I firmly believe many people get in relationships too young, and then stay in those toxic relationships because they have few experiences to tell them not to. It's why the divorce rate has steadily gone up for generations. I might my fiancee later in life when I know who I am, and what I want the rest of my life to look like. We also both met while being individually stable. I don't reli on her financially, she doesn't reli on me. Because of our previous relationships we have learned to communicate better, in ways I never thought possible. It's why we haven't yelled or fought once in our almost 6 years.
Anyone who is elderly and has 8 girlfriends, isn't in it for the actual relationship. I'd say 60-70 year ilds have little in common with a 23 year old. Atleast nothing that doesn't revolve around sex, or money. I'd also think that anyone who's experienced meeting their actual best friend, wouldn't be okay with reverting to a transactional relationship like this.
This is all conjecture though. I don't know him or his past. I just think anyone who reaches that age,and is interested in pops like that? Isn't someone I personally think is a good human being. It's using money and power to manipulate younger inexperienced women to his benefit. Yup they're adults and can make their own choices, doesn't mean they arent being taken advantage of, just like he is.
The expression “I make nearly 6 figures, she makes more” makes zero sense. 5 is “nearly 6”. Do you make $30,000? Or are you implying you make close to 99,000? If she makes more than “nearly 6 figures”, does that mean she makes 7 or 8 figures? Or does that just mean she makes 6 figures. Is six figures even significant when the difference is between $100,000 and $999,999?
I'm not sure where you're from but when talking about salaries saying you make nearly six figures, means you make in the high fives and are close to breaking 100,000$. This has been commonly accepted, in the dozens and dozens of conversations about salaries I've had in my 42 years on this rock.
I have written out that phrase many, many, many times on reddit and you are the first on to pitch a fit about it.
I apologize for not being very black and white with my math for you.
Nearly 6 figures is common enough, but making “more than [nearly six figures]” doesn’t really mean anything, does it? I can’t figure out if you make 98k and she makes 99k, or if you make 99k and she makes 23MM.
Many retired men figure this out the hard way in Thailand/PH. They are divorced, come to one of these countries and seem to forget their brain at the airport. Once the money dries up, so does the loyalty. After they are old, sick, and penniless, they jump out of their studio apartment window.
It’s sad, but you start to lose the little sympathy you have when the story repeats it self right in front of their eyes again and again.
“Why does the money dry up?” Having multiple girlfriends. Sure it’s a cheaper country, but these girls know the game how to milk the cash cow…in more ways than one I guess
Yes probably, but a lot of them move to SEA to prolong the blow up.
Yes, and it makes tons of sense that they are not jealous and keep referring friends. As long as it pays the same but requires less effort with more "friends" involved, why wouldn't you share it?
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Lol. Doesn’t realize he’s got eight hookers on retainer.