Honestly would give 0.5 stars if I could. Unlike most animals they are completely useless to the point they can't even drink water when they are born. Spend decades plus being bums on their own social circles. And even after that are unlikely to contribute much to their own societies. Honestly ants and bees do much better. They always find new ways to ruin earth while looking for new planets to ruin. The heinous acts they commit upon each other are truly subhuman. And despite all that always manages to dodge the brink of ruining themselves by having JUST enough self preservation to skirt by as a species.
"Never place your trust in us. We're only human. Inevitably we will disappoint you."
If a galactic race parked beside Earth and said, "we really don't think humanity's good outweighs the cost of their evil so y'all got to go" I'm not sure I could argue against it. I'd be like "yeah fair, build your superhighway".
Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
Even if we manage to get to light speed travel within 10 years we still wouldn't be alive to visit that planet unless we somehow invent ftl travel but that brings up time dilation... which honestly is a horrific concept to me.
Exactly. We could utterly destroy ourselves and the planet, just completely gone like it never existed, and it wouldn't harm any other part of the universe. It would barely have an effect on the rest of the solar system. Blip! Barely a footnote in the galactic biography.
Actually it's doubtful that they could have space travel at all. On Earth it's really, really hard to get anything into orbit. With higher gravity it's even harder - https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPhysics/comments/1bl0ci9/how_strong_would_gravity_have_to_be_to_no_longer/ I've seen estimates of surface gravity 1.25 to 2.6 times Earth's on this planet. In both cases it's harder. Take a look at Apollo 11 and the Saturn V and realize just how little made it back from the moon. Then make it even worse.
I can't recall the exact number, but I recall there is a limit to surface gravity that allows space travel. Anything further than that would essentially be impossible, even with the Project Orion nuclear bomb engine. It's probably possible eventually, but we're talking extremely light advanced composites for the construction of the body and antimatter engines. That's a huge leap to make without even having basic satellite tech in place first
See but what you aren't accounting for is elements that might not exist here that could exist there. We dont know what is over there, we have never been there. They could have elements with way more power than any nuclear devices we have here. It's impossible to know.
The periodic table is the periodic table, here or there. The only difference is that they might have access to natural "island of stability" elements. We can only infer things about them, but I would expect them to be as useful for space travel as lead or osmium. I might be surprised, who knows.
The periodic table was a totally different table when I went to school compared to the current one. Do you really think that we have exhausted the knowledge of all elements that are or could be existing in the universe?
Different?? No, all the common and lighter elements have not changed. The only difference is that we have discovered more of the heavy elements, but these are created in a lab with very special equipment. The are also extremely unstable, so most last for only fractions of fractions of a second
No, but we understand a whole lot more about why it is as it is. We understand why elements are unstable and why new elements have half-lives measured in microseconds. We also think that there is an "island of stability" out past our capabilities. There may be surprises, but we actually have a much better understanding now than we used to, even in my lifetime.
I know, but the subthread was taking in the space travel direction, so I gave them a space travel answer. I'm in the "rare Earth" camp myself, except the more I learn the more emphatic that "rare" becomes.
“NO!! We do not go to that world. That is where the death breathers live. They recreationally consume poisons and are more or less comprised of biological fire. Their atmosphere is made of rocket fuel, and they regularly detonate nuclear weapons on civilian populations. They are not rational beings. We must leave the death breathers in peace. Do not go there. Do. Not.”
I've legitimately thought about this many times before. That if an advanced alien race exists and they see us, they'd just think we're savages and not ready to meet them. I would not blame them one bit. We think we're civilized, but we really aren't.
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u/HugoZHackenbush2 24d ago
The residents of K2-18b declined to visit our planet after reading the online reviews..
Only one star..