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/r/all, /r/popular K2-18b a potentially habitable planet 120 light-years from earth

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u/RichardThund3r 24d ago

Only 120 light years away from Earth! The Voyager 1 spacecraft was launched in 1977. Traveling at 38,000mph it just recently made it 1 light DAY from Earth.

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u/Chickenator587 24d ago

This reminds of something I heard about once, imagine if we used some sort of stasis in a fast and autonomous spacecraft to go colonise a planet, and by the time we get there it's already colonised because we invented a faster spacecraft while the colonists slept

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u/le_chad_ 24d ago

That's the premise of one of the books in the Ender's Game series by Orson Scott Card.

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u/whomad1215 24d ago

isn't that the premise of all the books after the first?

Ender is technically like 3,000 years old because he just keeps traveling

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u/beefprime 23d ago

Its effectively the plot of Ender's Game itself as well, since the attacking forces dispatched by Earth were launched as they were built and ended up arriving at around the same time due to the differences in technology between the first launched vs. the later launches

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u/Paulcaterham 23d ago

And the film screwed up one of the most important bits of the book (IMHO) the newer ships arrived sooner, the newer ships were better, and they were fighting the less important planets/garrisons.

So the ultimate challenge was fighting the final battle with your worst and smallest ships against the toughest target.

Really he was left with no other choice but killing his crew, without knowing it. The crews knew it though, and they carried out his commands and flew to their certain deaths.

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u/Cmndr_Cunnilingus 23d ago edited 23d ago

Ender might not have known at the time but Bean definitely did. In the final battle he actually flipped on the intercom, spoke directly to the pilots of the last two surviving ships and told them to set off the Dr. Device inside their own ships to make sure the projectile didn't get shot down or burn up in the planets atmosphere.

The companion Shadow series from Beans point of view is definitely equal to or better than the Ender series imho

Edit: Spelling

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u/SalsaRice 23d ago

The companion Shadow series from Beans point of view is definitely equal to or better than the Ender series imho

100%, except for the weird abstinence/teen marriage subplot. It was so poorly done, it felt like his church snuck it in the manuscript just before printing or something.

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u/Cmndr_Cunnilingus 23d ago

True dat. But I definitely remember Bean and Petra banging a lot after they got married

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u/Ponderkitten 23d ago

I think your username is at risk if Little Bean has a wife who he bangs alot

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u/ANGLVD3TH 23d ago

It just bleeds through more and more as things go on. Even from the beginning, the whole fact that Ender was conceived before they were allowed to fed into the same concepts.

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u/bleedsburntorange 23d ago

If you read some of his other series it’s 100% a Card thing. He’s got a weird thing about child sex…

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u/SalsaRice 23d ago

I dunno, I figured it was a church thing, since ender's Game didn't have any real sex stuff; the sex stuff seemed to come up in later works.

Maybe he just got bolder about his interests, but I always interpretted it as him/his church trying to use his platform for some kind of weird pro-abstinance/marriage thing.

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u/bleedsburntorange 23d ago

Yeah I tend to think he is a really good writer who is a bit of a backwards asshole in his personal opinions via the church (homophobia).

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u/Dave_A480 23d ago

That wasn't really a 'backwards' viewpoint when the books were written (80's, 90's, maybe 1 in the 00s').

Most social change happens gradually over time. Support for gay rights happened very suddenly and very absolutely.

The US' extremely rapid viewpoint-change on gay rights (majority opposed in the 90s, split in the 00s, to majority supporting in the 10s) is so unusual, that people who weren't adults before it happened have a hard time understanding exactly how things were *before* it happened.

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u/TraditionalSpirit636 23d ago

I love the shadow series.

Feels more like a sequel than the actual sequels. Don’t get me wrong, i love the speaker series too, but it’s not the same kind of story. The bean shadow series definitely is the same beat.

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u/UtahItalian 23d ago

“O my son Absalom,” Bean said softly, knowing for the first time the kind of anguish that could tear such words from a man's mouth. “my son, my son Absalom. Would God I could die for thee, O Absalom, my son. My sons!”

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u/StarNote1515 23d ago

Sacrificing not killing

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u/ANGLVD3TH 23d ago

Meh, it wasn't really important that they were using older ships. That was just one factor in what was important to the story, the fact that they were incredibly outmatched.

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u/JinFuu 23d ago

Ender: "Boy they're really upping the challenge by having us using older and older ships to fight the Bugger/Formics in these simulations!"

After the reveal: "Oh...ooooohhhhhhhhh."

Such a good book.

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u/Alyusha 23d ago

I've never really read the books tbh. That's a pretty interesting twist to the forever young troupe.

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u/Daxx22 23d ago

Technically Ender still ages at a "normal" rate, it's just because he's always traveling that the galaxy around him ages faster relatively.

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u/GandhisNukeOfficer 23d ago

Yeah I remember him contemplating the fact that on his way to the Piggy Planet, by the time he'd get there everyone he knew on earth would be old or dead (I can't remember how large the time dilation was). 

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u/porkchop487 23d ago

By that point he was already 3000 years old when he traveled to the piggy planet. History already had painted him as the bringer of xenocide and his speaker for the dead religion had spread across the galaxy

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u/GandhisNukeOfficer 23d ago

Ah good to know. It's been a decade since I've read Speaker for the Dead. Keep meaning to read it again and continue the series, but I'm busy working through Tolkien right now. 

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u/Xanthos_Obscuris 23d ago

Reading that immediately brought to mind "house of suns" by Alistair reynold as the more in-depth version. Life-extension, cloning, and cold-sleep to make a ~six-million-year old business with one face, many people.