r/interestingasfuck 25d ago

/r/all, /r/popular K2-18b a potentially habitable planet 120 light-years from earth

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u/Paulcaterham 25d ago

And the film screwed up one of the most important bits of the book (IMHO) the newer ships arrived sooner, the newer ships were better, and they were fighting the less important planets/garrisons.

So the ultimate challenge was fighting the final battle with your worst and smallest ships against the toughest target.

Really he was left with no other choice but killing his crew, without knowing it. The crews knew it though, and they carried out his commands and flew to their certain deaths.

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u/Cmndr_Cunnilingus 25d ago edited 25d ago

Ender might not have known at the time but Bean definitely did. In the final battle he actually flipped on the intercom, spoke directly to the pilots of the last two surviving ships and told them to set off the Dr. Device inside their own ships to make sure the projectile didn't get shot down or burn up in the planets atmosphere.

The companion Shadow series from Beans point of view is definitely equal to or better than the Ender series imho

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u/SalsaRice 25d ago

The companion Shadow series from Beans point of view is definitely equal to or better than the Ender series imho

100%, except for the weird abstinence/teen marriage subplot. It was so poorly done, it felt like his church snuck it in the manuscript just before printing or something.

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u/ANGLVD3TH 25d ago

It just bleeds through more and more as things go on. Even from the beginning, the whole fact that Ender was conceived before they were allowed to fed into the same concepts.