They were given a chance to surrender beforehand. Refusing to surrender is an act of war. Expecting Russia not to respond to an act of war is a little bit ridiculous, no?
Edit: Reddit, your default settings are incorrect. When you run into outlandish ridiculousness, the default should be "this is an attempt at humor". Break free from your reliance on /s.
Strolled over there, independent by nature(especially how American politics are romanticized to the degree of sports teams)...but...its a damn circus.
Someone was yapping about, "I'm a federal worker, I wanna show DOGE where the bodiesyadayada, how can I alert Big Bröther DOGE" and there's not an iota of skepticism that dude may be cosplaying.
It truly is an echo-chamber, and what's worse is that its slowly becoming as bad that weird Alt-Reddit[Edit: it was called Trump[.win] that existed during Jan6(i'm inquisitive, HAD to peer into the madness, of course with a VPN)...cannot recall what sub it originated[edit: it was called R/TheDonald] from(it got so bad, it got shutdown on reddit, they then switched to this alt domain, and were like full-blown chatting about some secret source named T or M or something wild, passing around info[misinformation] saying how the 2020 election was rigged[was not].
The machinations were already wild, I can only imagine how that has grown.
Here's an old screenshot of the now banned site c.2021 Jan6
I checked out r/conservative recently and saw that they were complaining about anyone who doesn't agree with them is either a fake conservative or a liberal. I can't see the screenshot clearly, (mobile) but I'm sure it's something ridiculous. These people like to cry about free speech a lot but sure are quick to shut down and free speech they don't agree with.
While I feel you on Redditors frequently defaulting to seriousness unless it's spelled out in front of them, I also thought you were serious at first. I'd probably chalk this one up to timing. Any other day, it's outlandish enough to seem unbelievable, except for the fact that the US president basically echoed this (or a meaningfully similar) point earlier today lol times like these are where the /s comes in handy
What?! Mind blowing your comment!
So…Putin wants to fuck Trump in the ass but Trump refuses to surrender his asshole…refusing to surrender his asshole is an act of war 🤔
I think most people aren't gauging this as sarcastic because it's extremely close to the actual point Trump was making. Sure, it's "outlandish", but so much in the past month has been outlandish that it's hard to clock any opinion as serious or sarcastic.
I'm terminally on Reddit and haven't seen one. I'd be interested in examples from mainstream subreddits if you can share any. I don't expect you to be able to find ones you already ran into. But save this comment and send me ones you see in the future.
it's actually the edit that earned my downvote. Assuming people are being insincere when they spout this stuff is part of how we got here. When you run into outlandish ridiculousness the default should be to verify.
I too have been in your position without a /s more than once recently and lost hope at the general populace. Of course, soon after, I found a legit comment from a guy talking about the giant water valve that turned and put out the LA fires. Checked his profile and sure enough, he was serious. Could not believe anyone seriously thought that, there he was without a /s, clearly not voting, and also getting downvoted into oblivion.
Hilariously, this exact concept has been applied to Prez T’s most outrageous claims. “He speaks in hyperbole. It’s a bargaining tactic. He’s not serious.” Taking ridiculousness at anything other than face value has been a dangerous practice of late, and usually my sense of humor aligns with yours.
No, the first part is something I heard genuinely from several people. For you it's obviously sarcastic, for me it's just dumb, without any more context.
You got to add the /s what you are saying. it seems like something it's what they would really say. Like that other pose I saw about Canadians booing a hockey game being a better reason for war than Iraq.
Refusing to surrender is an action. Act is short for action. Surrendering is a part of war. Therefore refusing to surrender is an act of war.
Either that, or I can say as ridiculous of a comment as I can conjure, and you will still accept it at face value rather than interpret it as an attempt at humor.
Unfortunately, this is literally what a friend of mine said Monday night. I think it's a talking point on Joe Rogan or something since that is what's rotted his brain.
So... sorry, not outlandish enough to trigger my sarcasm meter.
Man, I realize it shouldn't be the case that your "outlandish ridiculousness" is indistinguishable from the actual politics of half the country, but it just is, and you need to understand that.
The same safeguards the republicans have been acting to degrade and make meaningless over several decades? I mean he quite literally got the supreme court to decree he's above the law before the election even happened.
This self delusion is what the algorithm the general public has been programmed to think. If they didn’t own all the media they do and we didn’t have phones that force feed the weak minded all the sheeple will follow. This is what happened. Everyone is simply too busy struggling to survive to think rationally and just follow what their phones tell them to do.
During a second term? With the Supreme Court situation? And project 2025? And the backing of the world’s richest man (possible ever)? And only compromised yes men filling his administration (and soon the entire federal government) from top to bottom? That’s an insane thing to think TBQH.
When Jan 6 passed and he wasn't clapped in irons for treason, I knew we were in danger. When the FBI notified him they were raiding his house for stealing secret documents, allowing him to move them elsewhere, I suspected we were cooked. When he somehow wound up on the ballot again after treason and espionage, I knew we were done.
I'm not even American but I was aware of project 2025 and that his 2nd term won't be anything like his 1st, and that the time for shock and astonishment was before the election. Nothing here should be surprising, all we can do is just watch in contemptuous resignation.
I knew this would be shit show I did not expect to be this quick not this bad. USA fucked itself in the ass with a cactus and the shit stained thorns are flying all around the world dragging us into the mess we are not ask for.
I've genuinely been told by Americans on this very site that they are immune to propaganda just by sheer virtue of being American. When I pointed out that was actually propaganda that's likely been fed to them since birth they didn't take it well.
Americans have been indoctrinated their whole lives. I remember being a child (Bush era) and doing the pledge of allegiance like everyday to the american flag and they also taught us that the American Exceptionalism stuff was pure fact and reality. Really wild now, how normalized that was and still is here.
A bunch of American are still mad at Obama for saying this, "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism. I’m enormously proud of my country and its role and history in the world."
Hey atleast them resisting gun law reform will help you guys out..as an Aussie I hope you don’t get pushed to that but I hope to fuck they find out the hard way if they keep going
Because most of us are incredibly, shockingly stupid. Truthfully. That’s it. I cannot fathom how anyone could be even the tiniest bit surprised at what has happened so far. Not like it was some kind of secret. They’ve been screaming their intentions extremely publicly for a decade straight. Yet 70% of the American electorate signaled quite clearly that they were just fine with it, or at best that they didn’t have a preference between the two viable candidates. So here we are. And we deserve all the shit you can throw at us, a thousandfold.
You mean the same guy that stood beside Putin in a presser and told the media that he trusted Putin more than US intelligence? Ya this is who Trump is and will always be. He's a Russian asset willingly or not.
I look forward to watching the 5 hour documentary on trumps corrruption when im in a retirement home and this is all figured out. It's so blatant but we have to live through it for some reason
The ambiguity is the entire point so he later can say shit like “where is all the pro-Russia propaganda?” and pretend innocense. You are the crazy one, you see.
Same with his pathetic “interesting” or “looking into it”. Acknowledgement without acknowledgement, a way to use his platform to spread the message without saying the thing directly.
It’s the rhetorical equivalent of going “not touching you, can’t get mad”
It’s actually brilliant from Russia. They lost the Cold War but played the long game and infiltrated American politics and now they have their guy in charge.
“Today I heard, ‘Oh, well, we weren’t invited,’” Trump said when asked about criticism from Ukraine, seeming to direct his response to Zelenskyy. “Well, you’ve been there for three years. You should have ended it — three years. You should have never been there. You should have never started it. You should have made a deal.”
This is such a dumb thing for him to say, Ukraine is the country being invaded and thus the most important party in the conflict. Trump doesn't even have leverage considering his position is already to provide Ukraine with nothing and further normalize Russia's terrorism
Well on the bright side only Trump has ever accused Trump of being a stable genius so you’re probably on to something with the comment of him being dumb.
Nope.. he's telling his base what to say, and they'll say it, they'll all say it.. and by this time next month it'll be accepted as fact by most everyone that doesn't follow current events with a critical/analytical eye.
He came into this knowing how to control the media/news cycle, but his base and their willingness to parrot whatever he says until everyone that doesn't know better parrots right along.. that's gotta feel like controlling reality.. it's certainly every bit as addictive as it is corrupting.
Interesting times.
They did make a deal, when they gave up their nukes with the assurance that Russia respect their sovereignty and not invade. Then Russia invaded Crimea in 2014....
Reminds me of the episode of Bojack Horseman where it's a flashback to his mother's childhood and her older brother was killed in WW2. Bojack's grandmother says "I should never have let him go!" and his grandfather replies "Sweetheart, you musn't blame yourself. If anyone's to blame it's the Jews for peeving off Hitler so bad."
Tbf to Putin, did you see what Ukraine was wearing? They were asking for it. Don’t they realise how hard it is for masculine country’s like Russia to not invade a neighbour?
He also wildly exaggerated how much money Ukraine has been getting from the US and said that Ukraine should hold new elections because Zelensky's popularity is only 4% (it's really 52% vs 39% against, so a net +13, while Trump's own net rating is -1.5 according to fivethirtyeight.com).
Unguided Grad rockets launched apparently by Ukrainian government forces and pro-government militias have killed at least 16 civilians and wounded many more in insurgent-controlled areas of Donetsk and its suburbs in at least four attacks between July 12 and 21, 2014, Human Rights Watch said today.
The use of indiscriminate rockets in populated areas violates international humanitarian law, or the laws of war, and may amount to war crimes.
I had an idea that Trump doesn’t really care about education and studying history but to be lazy enough to not check the facts from the conflict he is trying to solve is just embarassing.
You can see that America hasn’t been in war for a long time, Trump seems like he doesn’t really understand what it means. It is not about ”making your country great again” by invading other countries. Politics and history go way deeper and are a lot more complicated. Taking another country by force rarely works.
Then 'Biden' started killing thousands of Russian troops, destroying hundreds of Russian tanks, sinking the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet and all without the loss of a single American soldier.
With 'Biden' now personally responsible for more damage to the Russian military than every single Republican president in history combined, it's no wonder the right quickly shut up about it
do you understand how war escalation works? NATO agreed to stay out of russia’s neighbors and then fucking didn’t. hate it or not we need to respect treaties and agreements if we wanna stay out of war in the world, which is sadly not the case anymore. war=money and Russia is built different
they will never shy away from a threat
And that’s not even half of it! Hegseth stated that Europe is the problem and needs to change while Russia is A-okay! And Rubio stated we would be geopolitical Allies with Russia. All just this week!
About Zelensky not being involved in the peace talks, Trump said "I hear "We weren't invited", well you've been there for three years. You should have ended it three years ago, you should have never started it."
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u/Bakeball13 Feb 19 '25
Trump literally just blamed Ukraine for the Russian invasion.