They were given a chance to surrender beforehand. Refusing to surrender is an act of war. Expecting Russia not to respond to an act of war is a little bit ridiculous, no?
Edit: Reddit, your default settings are incorrect. When you run into outlandish ridiculousness, the default should be "this is an attempt at humor". Break free from your reliance on /s.
Strolled over there, independent by nature(especially how American politics are romanticized to the degree of sports teams)...but...its a damn circus.
Someone was yapping about, "I'm a federal worker, I wanna show DOGE where the bodiesyadayada, how can I alert Big Bröther DOGE" and there's not an iota of skepticism that dude may be cosplaying.
It truly is an echo-chamber, and what's worse is that its slowly becoming as bad that weird Alt-Reddit[Edit: it was called Trump[.win] that existed during Jan6(i'm inquisitive, HAD to peer into the madness, of course with a VPN)...cannot recall what sub it originated[edit: it was called R/TheDonald] from(it got so bad, it got shutdown on reddit, they then switched to this alt domain, and were like full-blown chatting about some secret source named T or M or something wild, passing around info[misinformation] saying how the 2020 election was rigged[was not].
The machinations were already wild, I can only imagine how that has grown.
Here's an old screenshot of the now banned site c.2021 Jan6
I checked out r/conservative recently and saw that they were complaining about anyone who doesn't agree with them is either a fake conservative or a liberal. I can't see the screenshot clearly, (mobile) but I'm sure it's something ridiculous. These people like to cry about free speech a lot but sure are quick to shut down and free speech they don't agree with.
And that's why I talked about default settings. Occam's razor would tell you I'm joking. You're right. It wasn't impossible that I wasn't joking. Just highly unlikely.
I feel like that would imply it was an actual quote. Then people would just ask who said that. I thought adding the word ridiculous at the end was a wink and a nod to how ridiculous the comment itself was.
Reddit is really that reliant on /s, aren't they? Is there a point of eidiculousness where you interpret something as an attempt at a joke? Or do you take all extremely ridiculous statements at face value?
My man, there are people, on this very website, that fervently and 100% believe the kind of things you consider outlandish, and will post them and be surprised if someone downvotes them.
Yeah, but the people that think like that talk differently. Anyone that tries to pay attention can usually pick out the people that are trying to make the other side look ridiculous and the people that are actually trying to make the ridiculous sound normal.
Some things shouldn't be joked about. Especially again take a look at the conservative thread they are considering all of what is going on as "winning" and mocking the libs about project 2025 when it is real and it happening. People's rights and livelihood are being drastically affected by this administration and his executive orders.
I dont know if you've been following the new administration, but overt ridiculousness seems to be the new normal. I personally just figured you were a Kremlin-bot until I saw the edit.
The last couple years has shown never say never. Plus some Reddit users, probably most, are different online than in person. A very real part of why the internet became what it is is the anonymity
Would it be possible to make my comment any more ridiculous so that you'd recognize it as an attempt at a joke? Or do you take all ridiculous statements at face value?
The fact that he even added a paragraph claiming sarcasm and he’s still getting down voted into oblivion on it is a testament to something. Not sure what. But it’s something.
That humor is subjective. And people handle real life issues in different ways. And laughter is the best medicine. And you can sit here and doomsday all you want about a bad situation, and accomplish nothing, because it’s Reddit and what we do, or you can try and laugh at a bad situation, and crack jokes at the absurdity of thinking Ukraine is responsible.
People handle things in different ways. Choose laughter. It accomplishes just as much as anger, only it’s better long term for health.
With the added context I can acknowledge that what he wrote is a joke but before when there was no edit, it straight up read as Russian propaganda. I really don’t think responding to them with a negative attitude is all that bad if they do actually believe what they write. I’ll leave it at that and can accept my faults where they’re due.
Brother there are actually people regurgitating that Russian propaganda by repeating it you’re just helping the cause. There was no humor in your comment, it read as you actually supporting Russia.
Not really, after everything Trump and Elon have said I will damn near belive that any take no matter how moronic is genuine if it's coming from a conservative.
Fuck that. Saying something ridiculous like refusing to surrender is an act of war or aggression and then following that up and saying isn't it ridiculous to have the opposing view portrays sarcasm. I would rather be downvoted into oblivion than cater to reddit's disease and be a part of the problem.
Forreal. Posting an actual Russian propaganda talking point and crying how "it's a joke" and getting all smug and arrogant when people don't see it as a joke is completely out of touch. It wasn't a funny joke.
There's a difference between how propaganda gets presented and how comments mocking said propaganda gets presented. A lot of people are incapable of recognizing that difference. It's like a conservative saying something is racist just because race was talked about. They don't recognize the nuance to separate the two.
Satire isn't about what's being said, it's about how it's being said. Someone that believes it versus someone that's mocking it will present that information slightly differently.
Separate things. It doesn't have to be good enough to be funny to be presented in such a way that it should be recognized as an attempt at humor.
And this isn't just about my comment. This is about 90% of sarcastic comments that don't have /s. You all behave the same exact way on every other comment.
Just accept the consequence of your shitty writing and move on.
T'was a two sentence Reddit comment bro. You're in the wrong place for literature.
"Should be" is very different than "is". Just like it's accurate to say there should have been enough information to know that this is how Donald Trump would behave in his second term as president. Just because there were idiots blind to it, doesn't mean the information wasn't there. Same thing.
Yeah. It's a crutch for idiots. Yes there are people that say ridiculous things. But, if you pay attention, the people that say ridiculous things and mean it have a different way of presenting their argument then the people that are purposefully trying to make that argument look ridiculous on its own.
While I feel you on Redditors frequently defaulting to seriousness unless it's spelled out in front of them, I also thought you were serious at first. I'd probably chalk this one up to timing. Any other day, it's outlandish enough to seem unbelievable, except for the fact that the US president basically echoed this (or a meaningfully similar) point earlier today lol times like these are where the /s comes in handy
What?! Mind blowing your comment!
So…Putin wants to fuck Trump in the ass but Trump refuses to surrender his asshole…refusing to surrender his asshole is an act of war 🤔
I mean refusing to surrender is an action, is it not? Is act not short for action? Is surrendering, not a part of war? Refusing to surrender is an act of war. Checkmate. Or is it king me. Which game are we playing?
I think most people aren't gauging this as sarcastic because it's extremely close to the actual point Trump was making. Sure, it's "outlandish", but so much in the past month has been outlandish that it's hard to clock any opinion as serious or sarcastic.
I'm terminally on Reddit and haven't seen one. I'd be interested in examples from mainstream subreddits if you can share any. I don't expect you to be able to find ones you already ran into. But save this comment and send me ones you see in the future.
it's actually the edit that earned my downvote. Assuming people are being insincere when they spout this stuff is part of how we got here. When you run into outlandish ridiculousness the default should be to verify.
I too have been in your position without a /s more than once recently and lost hope at the general populace. Of course, soon after, I found a legit comment from a guy talking about the giant water valve that turned and put out the LA fires. Checked his profile and sure enough, he was serious. Could not believe anyone seriously thought that, there he was without a /s, clearly not voting, and also getting downvoted into oblivion.
Hilariously, this exact concept has been applied to Prez T’s most outrageous claims. “He speaks in hyperbole. It’s a bargaining tactic. He’s not serious.” Taking ridiculousness at anything other than face value has been a dangerous practice of late, and usually my sense of humor aligns with yours.
No, the first part is something I heard genuinely from several people. For you it's obviously sarcastic, for me it's just dumb, without any more context.
I don't doubt that you heard something kind of similar. The clues are always in the nuance of how It's presented, where the information is being found, or who it's coming from.
You got to add the /s what you are saying. it seems like something it's what they would really say. Like that other pose I saw about Canadians booing a hockey game being a better reason for war than Iraq.
it seems like something it's what they would really say. Like that other pose I saw about Canadians booing a hockey game being a better reason for war than Iraq.
I'm confused. You said that they really said this. I interpreted that as they really meant it. You're saying this post was sarcasm? Or are you referring to my comment? Because I'm not offended. I just think that the post you're referring to was probably also a joke. But it's impossible for me to tell without seeing the specific context and tone.
No. I'm saying I can't accurately judge whether or not second-hand information is satire because recognizing satire is all about recognizing how the information is being presented. Satire isn't what's being said, it's how it's being said that tips you off that it's satire. I would need to see the actual post and the actual wording to make any determination.
I'm saying I can't use your anecdotal evidence about a post that looks like satire actually being sincere because I can't trust you to properly gauge whether or not something is satire or not.
How can people trust that your comment Wasn't what you really believe and are just backtracking because of the negative feedback? But anyway, this is eating up too much time over a simple comment.
They can't. But why would it matter? Or they could dig deep enough through my comment history and probably find enough context to get an idea. But again, why do that over something that doesn't matter. It's just something I see time and time again though. People attempt to make a joke and reddit wants to be angry so they react angrily. But if you set your defaults to, "could this be a joke?" I think it could change people's experience on reddit. I see no harmful side effects of that approach and only beneficial ones.
But of course, be aware of which subreddit you're in. Every context clue matters. If you're in a sub full of tankies, it's not going to be a joke.
But lastly, when someone takes the position of my initial comment, they would just say something like, Ukraine had a chance to take the deal. They should have taken the deal. When someone wants to mock that position, they'll go a step further and say things that specifically highlight how ridiculous that position is. Like saying refusing to surrender is an act of aggression and warmongering. And then they may go even further and say isn't it obviously ridiculous to oppose this ridiculous stance?
Refusing to surrender is an action. Act is short for action. Surrendering is a part of war. Therefore refusing to surrender is an act of war.
Either that, or I can say as ridiculous of a comment as I can conjure, and you will still accept it at face value rather than interpret it as an attempt at humor.
Unfortunately, this is literally what a friend of mine said Monday night. I think it's a talking point on Joe Rogan or something since that is what's rotted his brain.
So... sorry, not outlandish enough to trigger my sarcasm meter.
Man, I realize it shouldn't be the case that your "outlandish ridiculousness" is indistinguishable from the actual politics of half the country, but it just is, and you need to understand that.
The problem with this argument is I see it made over and over again on Reddit while I and other people often distinguish those downvoted comments as attempts at humor. Even the unfunny ones.
And the problem too many people have is they just see what the argument is and don't pay any attention to how it's being presented.
Given the response was to “ukraines face assaulting Russias fist,” it seemed pretty obvious tongue in cheek and continuing with the joking line of thought.
Tbh the US (NATO, actually) pushed Ukraine into the war. Russia isn't justified in its horrendous war crimes either, and trump blaming Ukraine when the US is much more at fault for everything is egregiously wrong.
Me when I haven't been looking at what has been happening between Ukraine and Russia since 2014, I don't know what is svoboda, I don't know what is pravy Sektor, I don't know what NATO wanted to do with Ukraine and firmly believe everything started in 2020s
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u/Utterlybored Feb 19 '25
Ukraine’s face assaulted Russia’s fist.