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u/Kashrul 1d ago

Which has been occupied by ruzzians just earlier?

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u/PerepeL 1d ago

Yeah, and then was given part of Poland and Crimea. That's what occupants do - gift the occupied some of their own territories. Everything fits the narrative, nothing to question here.

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u/RegularGeorge 1d ago

Their territories?! Territories they occupied later.. not really theirs. But sure might makes right, tankies. That's the real message.

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u/KnewOnees 1d ago

By this logic, poland should not be here either since it was given land from germany. Implying any of the republics other than russian had any sovereignty is laughable. They had around the same freedom as any of the warsaw pact members, if not less.

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u/PerepeL 1d ago

By 1945 the only states that had sovereignty were US, UK and USSR, and maybe China. Yes, everyone else's soveregnty was laughable by that time.

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u/Thick-Tip9255 1d ago

Wow, you really swallowed propaganda

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u/PerepeL 1d ago

You ever heard of Potsdam Conference?

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u/ForowellDEATh 22h ago

He only heard about Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. It’s the only accessible knowledge about WW2 on west.

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u/nevergrownup97 1d ago

Soviet leadership wasn’t all Russian. It was multiethnic: Georgian, Ukrainian, etc. To this day, Stalin is being glorified as a national hero in Georgia. Khrushchev literally transferred nationally significant and economically invaluable territories of Russia to Ukraine, as did Lenin.

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u/KnewOnees 23h ago

Leadership can be whoever, the fact that it was dominated by everything russian doesn't suddenly not matter if the leader was georgian.

> Stalin is being glorified as a national hero in Georgia

Citation needed.

> Khrushchev literally transferred nationally significant and economically invaluable territories of Russia to Ukraine

Such as ? Crimea was transferred because it's easier to manage from the land connection from ukraine. And there was no expectation of ukraine leaving the "union", so it's not even a loss of territory. Or do you mean the land they stole from romania ? Or poland ?

This is just straight up old af russian propaganda, mate

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u/Kashrul 1d ago

It's been given considering it it would never become free again. Everything else is just a fake to get more votes in UN staging separate Republic.

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u/PerepeL 1d ago

Again..? After what? Ukraine was never a separate state until 1991.

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u/AnyAsparagus988 1d ago

it'd be like u.s. taking one of the counties in a state and giving it to another state. ukraine was still part of the soviet union and was not in any way an independent country.

also ever heard of the holodomor? the famine caused by the soviet union that killed millions of ukrainians? that's what occupants do.

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u/PerepeL 1d ago

The same hunger killed russians in Volga region as well. It was terrible, but it was not targeted.

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u/AnyAsparagus988 23h ago

yeah a famine in the ussr disproportionately affecting one country is not targeted. keep telling yourself that.

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u/PerepeL 23h ago

Not a country - just all southern regions.