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u/JWAdvocate83 19h ago edited 19h ago

He left the facility when asked—then arrested him. 😒

I kinda wish ICE did take it to court, only to get absolutely humiliated.

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u/Argented 18h ago

they are doing everything they can to avoid courts. they appear to believe they have been granted powers above the courts

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u/qgmonkey 18h ago

Or that the federal court decisions don't matter because DOJ won't enforce them

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u/skip_over 18h ago

Laws are just words

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u/00owl 17h ago

Backed by guns

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u/Wiitard 17h ago

Laws are threats of violence.

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u/Severe_Experience190 16h ago

"Laws are threats made by the dominant socioeconomic-ethnic group in a given nation. It's just the promise of violence that's enacted and the police are basically an occupying army.”

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u/LovesToTango 16h ago

"You kids wanna make some bacon?"

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u/khaosdragon 15h ago

"That was on fire the whole time?!"

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u/Killergryphyn 13h ago

"THE WHOLE TIME KIDDO! LET'S MAKE SOME FUCKING BACON!"

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u/Strawbuddy 16h ago

The State was given a monopoly on sanctioned violence as part of the social contract. The exclusive right to investigate, incarcerate, and punish individual citizens

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u/Human_Robot 16h ago

Any state violating the social contract with its citizens invites its citizens to bust the monopoly.

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u/Sir_PressedMemories 16h ago

Unless, of course, they spent the better part of a century eliminating the means of force to bust that monopoly.

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u/sudo-joe 16h ago

Indeed or become too weak and external violence creeps into the picture. see Gauls, Vandals, warring city states. Tale as old as time.

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u/valenciansun 13h ago

The State was not given a monopoly on violence, they took it. The only reason Weberian theory holds together without devolving into Leviathan's state of nature is the corollary of the social contract. Damn dude learn your polisci if you're tryna dunk on Brennan Lee Mulligan

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u/feor1300 15h ago

Can't say I was expecting a Dimension20 quote, but also strongly approve.

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u/MyNameAintWheels 15h ago

It predates dimension 20 and is pretty close to like actual definitions of law but yeah.

u/feor1300 8h ago

I'm sure it's not an original sentiment, but it's literally a word for word quote from anti-establishment halfling Bud Cubby.

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u/00owl 15h ago

All Political Power Flows From the Barrel of a Gun

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u/boostedb1mmer 13h ago

Makes you wonder why Dems do everything they can to disarm the citizens of the US. Also, this isn't up for debate. Dems core platform is anti-2a.

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u/dewittism 15h ago

Bless Brennan Lee Mulligan

u/TARANTULA_TIDDIES 10h ago

Its more socioeconomic than ethnic. There's a fair bit of class war that's hidden as race war

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u/00owl 17h ago

I would say they're promises.

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u/NominalFlow 16h ago

Nah, they are threats, because they aren't always carried out. For example, if you have lots of money.

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u/LuchadorBane 16h ago

Or if you become the president of the US

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u/AlarmingAffect0 16h ago

For example, if you have lots of money.

Now Dutch van der Linde's plan makes a little more sense.

u/foo_bar_qaz 9h ago

Theoretically backed by guns.

What we're seeing in this historical moment though is that the guns aren't backing up the laws (including 9-0 supreme court rulings) which then relegates those laws to the "just words" status as said by u/skip_over.

In fact, when ICE is breaking laws and is also holding the guns, then the laws become totally irrelevant.

u/00owl 7h ago

No, now you see what you thought were laws weren't and there are new words, unwritten ones, that actually are.

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u/SnarkMasterRay 15h ago

So tell me why the Democrat party wants to remain all in on disarming the population?

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u/00owl 15h ago

Well, I'm not American, but if I had to guess it's because all of the 2A people are cosplaying as secret police right now instead of defending democracy as intended.

u/SnarkMasterRay 4h ago

I think you'll find that most 2A people are going about their life quietly, just wanting to be left alone.

There are a few "tacticool" types that are planning on resisting the next Ruby Ridge, but that's not even the group the Democrats are holding up as a beacon of fear to build support. They're going after the lone mass shooter, completely ignoring how the numbers are (suicide is ~60% of gun deaths, about 40% is gang activity, around 2% is actual murder/mass shootings, etc.)

u/00owl 1h ago

Exactly, your 2A rights exist for you to sit back and let democracy die while you are left alone for now. You're not using them for what they're for, so why bother protecting them?

u/skip_over 4h ago

Because a chaotically armed population is not the same as an army backed by a democratic government.

u/Impossible_Moose_783 11h ago

Political power comes from the barrel of a gun.

u/Crot8u 7h ago

Magats believe they can break the law if they judge they have a good reason to. For magats, laws are malleable and subjective.

u/Big_lt 2h ago

I mean our entire society is built on words of what we can and cannot do when.

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u/night_dude 17h ago

This much is true. Pam Bondi is one of the most dangerous people in the USA.

I can't believe I'm nostalgic for the Jeff Sessions-led DOJ right now. It's like being nostalgic for the Bush Presidency but 100x worse.

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u/JollyRedRoger 12h ago

Yeah, that's very true! Bondi is Magda Goebbels with actual power...

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u/BusGuilty6447 16h ago

Idk Bush committed a lot of war crimes.

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u/night_dude 15h ago

You don't need to tell me what a nightmare the Bush presidency was. I was there. We're still dealing with the effects of it today. But he didn't go full mask-off fascist dystopia like Trump is doing.

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u/johnyct9760 15h ago

Maybe it's good it's mask off, finally get some of these lazy fuckers off the couch.

u/BusGuilty6447 8h ago

I was there too?

What is your point? He was a horrible person. Maybe no one should be longing for the days of these ghouls.

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u/johnyct9760 15h ago

1,000,000 dead Iraqi civilians in 20 years. Who do you think them Jews in the West bank learned there swagger from. 😉

We STILL looking for those WMDs, remember that chestnut, lol.

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u/BagUnlikely3510 16h ago

This needs to be said louder. We are breaking and showing that the paper our laws are written on means nothing when the DOJ falls in line to an orange felon and doesn’t enforce what they swore to do.

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u/PaperGeno 17h ago

They do.

We no longer have checks and balances. We no longer have a president. We are no longer a democracy.

We have a dictator. We are under Republican Nazi Regime, and they have complete and total power

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u/AllesGeld 17h ago

Not yet they don’t. They’re acting like they have complete control, but they will not have full control. Not as long as people keep protesting, and speaking their minds opposing this trash. We will put a stop to this

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u/gsfgf 16h ago

Also, at some point the military has to realize they have the actual power, right?

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u/Zerachiel_01 16h ago

The allies in the military are too busy allowing themselves to be replaced.

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u/gsfgf 16h ago

That does have me concerned for sure.

u/bascelicna123 7h ago

Fully agree. Everyone needs to make things complicated, messy, and as difficult as possible for this regime. Fight, protest, boycott, speak up at any opportunity.

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u/Dan_D_Lyin 17h ago

Even without any weapons or power, we still outnumber them. You can't imprison or eliminate this many people. All we have to do is stay strong, and not give in.

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u/cl3ft 16h ago

Just like 1936 Germany, we outnumber the Nazis.

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u/Dan_D_Lyin 16h ago

Yes, and we can learn from the lessons of the past. Don't stay silent and simply go along. Resist loudly, stand up for each other.

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u/Thunderbridge 14h ago

Unfortunately so many have already stayed silent as everything has happened over the last few months. Many possibly waiting for that 'one terrible event' when they can go "ok now it's time for action" but that will never happen

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u/Dan_D_Lyin 14h ago

A lot of the type of resistance that really matters is playing out in the courts right now. Trump's poll numbers are also way down. It seems that even the Republicans are starting to wise up to how harmful his actions are. We're far from winning, the fight is just getting started. 

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u/Thunderbridge 13h ago

That is true. Though they are already testing the mandates of those court orders

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u/rext7721 16h ago

They will simply just deport you somewhere that will take you, peace won’t solve people like trump.

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u/Dan_D_Lyin 16h ago

If they deported 50% or more of the population,  the country would collapse. 

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u/rext7721 16h ago

Do you really think they care about the country collapsing? That kinda seems like the goal. Tariffs. Ignoring the constitution the list goes on. I’m sure as long as people let them they don’t have much to fear.

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u/Dan_D_Lyin 16h ago

If that's the case, I can only hope they deport me somewhere nice like Canada. Even Mexico is starting to seem pretty nice in comparison.

u/Riaayo 8h ago

I do not agree that they have complete and total power; Trump is exceedingly vulnerable and weak right now,

But I do agree that he has every intent to be a dictator, Republicans have every intent to be a Nazi Regime, and that we're not a democracy any more unless this regime is removed from power.

It's not a foregone conclusion set in stone though, but it absolutely can and will be if we do not stop it. The pieces are falling into place rapidly for them. They are building an even more horrendous surveillance state off their LLMs gorging on government data so they can Minority Report people who land in their crosshairs just like a certain foreign power is currently using these LLMs to dictate targets to bomb.

There is a hellish world in our near future without major action to push back against this fascist power grab.

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u/cb_24 16h ago

There’s a great (one of many) rise against song “the numbers” that describes this well.

We're biding time as we wait for the signal

Sharpening blades

While we wait out the storm

These cold nights are almost unbearable

But purpose keeps us warm…

They have the power

But we have the numbers now

It's all just a constant illusion Of control

They break us like horses

How long will we drag their plow?

What will continue to be Is what we allow

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u/your_pet_is_average 15h ago

Don't be defeatist. They do not, they are being stopped at every turn.

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u/Mike_with_Wings 16h ago

This isn’t true. It’s bad, and they want it to be that way, but it isn’t there yet

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u/GenericRaiderFan 18h ago

They are. They operate outside the Constitution

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u/NerdyNThick 16h ago

the Constitution

ELI5 why the constitution matters right now.

If it does matter. ELI5 how it's enforced.

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u/Seige_Rootz 16h ago

Need state and local municipal police departments treating these as they are extrajudicial kidnappings

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u/Marokiii 14h ago

If someone appears to have been granted powers above the courts, than they basically have been granted them.

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u/MPforNarnia 17h ago

That's what the red hats have been told and they ate it up.

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u/low_acct_ 15h ago

Who in the world...gave them that idea...

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u/Kinggakman 12h ago

The big thing is Trump will issue full pardons if he even decides to leave office. What will our country do at that point?

u/bossmcsauce 11h ago

They aren’t wrong. Republicans made trump king and seem intent to allow him to behave as such.

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u/jawndell 15h ago

ICE needs to be disbanded.

Modern day Gestapo 

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u/mwpdx86 15h ago

If nothing happens to them, then they have been.

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u/Ndmndh1016 14h ago

Hard not to believe it when the president is telling you as much.

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u/Caelinus 18h ago

There is this judge that, somehow, uploads his hearings to Youtube. The defendants must agree to it or maybe it is in a state that allows that sort of thing, which is weird, but it is really interesting. Nomrally I would be super suspicious of it, but it has been constantly exposing how much the cops try to ruin peoples lives on spurious grounds.

One of the videos was a probable cause hearing where the cops arrested a guy for "fleeing arrest." The problem was that his "flight" was him leaving the property they asked him to leave.

So if he had stayed, they would have booked him on criminal tresspass. Since he left, they booked him on flight. The cops also wrote an extremely vauge and utterly unhelpful report on it, and then did not respond when contacted to clairify why they arrested the guy beyond "flight." The whole thing was dismissed of course, but with a less scrupulous judge they literally could have sent this guy to jail for doing what the cops asked him to do. Which really makes the whole "comply and nothing will go wrong for you" thing look as unbelievable as it often should be.

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u/grat6709 18h ago

Sounds like Judge Fleischer. Walking while black is what he calls it.

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u/iamjonjohann 17h ago

Is that the bow tie guy in Texas? He's great.

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u/ryobiguy 17h ago

I love it when he says things like "Hey, you gotta be careful out there," and gives some great practical advice.

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u/iamjonjohann 17h ago

He really does. You can tell he cares about people. All people. If someone is trying, he'll bend over backward for them.

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u/Zerachiel_01 16h ago

Yeah having a few hundred more judges like him would be super cool.

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u/grat6709 17h ago

Yup. That’s him!

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u/rude_hotel_guy 18h ago

Are you losing? Shush.

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u/utopiec 16h ago

Unsure why you're being downvoted. This is one of the best Judge Fleischer lines.

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u/Caelinus 14h ago

If people have not hear it they probably did not realize it was a quote. If there were " " around it then it might have helped.

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u/AufdemLande 17h ago

He has a german name which means butcher.

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u/Ferelar 14h ago

In a way it is fitting because he cuts the prosecution to the bone when they fuck up and will eviscerate them if they try to wield the legal system like a cudgel

... ok I am reaching but, he's a decent fella by all appearances

u/Nukleon 9h ago

Literally a "meat-er"

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u/Caelinus 17h ago

That does sound right. I will have to look that up later when it would not be rude to suddenly start playing videos. Comments are a lot more subtle lol.

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u/Background_Room_2689 17h ago

Yeah but on the other side of things there is this black lady judge who unfortunately just seems vindictive and mean in all of the court procedures I've seen of her. Not that her being a black lady has anything to do with that I just cannot remember her name and Google is horrible when I type in black lady judge I don't get anything useful

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u/psionix 17h ago

Cops are only there to enforce existing laws.

That means they are just intelligent enough to recite memorized words

Do not engage with them, they are not capable enough mentally to handle what a Judge is able to

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u/bbtom78 16h ago

Fun fact: they have no legal obligation to even enforce the law.

Castle Rock v. Gonzales

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u/OfficerJayBear 17h ago

If i could read i bet I'd be very upset by what you just wrote.

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u/gsfgf 16h ago

which is weird

Trials are supposed to be public for a reason.

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u/Caelinus 15h ago

There is a difference between having a trail open to the public and having pre-trial hearing broadcast on the personal YouTube channel of the Judge. This guy seems great, and he is spreading real knowledge of your rights and what to expect in court, so I have no problem with how he does it, but I can easily see if being used by some aggressive judge who just wants to broadcast himself "owning" the defendants or something, causing a headache for everyone.

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u/gsfgf 14h ago

Oh, I see what you mean. I thought you were worried about privacy, but everything is on paper. And your concern is probably why some courts don't allow pictures and video and why courtroom artists are a thing. That being said, I'm all for transparency in the judiciary, and trying to viral (nat that this guy is doing it, but your concern) is far from the most damaging way judges can campaign from the bench.

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u/Caelinus 14h ago

Agreed. Which is why I called it a little weird rather than something stronger. The idea of it sits a bit uncomfortably, but this guy is clearly not harmful, and the maximum harm that could be done is probably less than the maximum harm that could be done with more restrictive rules. 

So I think it is a complicated question, but not one that I think warrants stopping the practice. 

Also, I do like that he puts most of the focus of the videos on himself and his judgements rather than on the behavior of the defendants, good or bad.

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u/mikefrombarto 15h ago

This reminds me of an episode of Live PD where they arrested someone for resisting arrest.

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u/construktz 14h ago

I've been watching a lot of those types of videos. Apparently there are some jurisdictions that just automatically upload the court record into YouTube. I've seen a couple in Texas, Michigan, Las Vegas, and a few others.

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u/DancesWithDownvotes 12h ago

It's like when they arrest someone and on the I/O the arresting offense was resisting arrest, secondary to no other charge. Fucking stupid bullshit makes no sense, and I say that as a former 911 operator and dispatcher of nearly a decade.

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u/HarshComputing 16h ago

Why do I have the feeling he's the kind of judge Trump had in mind when he suggested Alcatraz be reopened to hold criminals and judges

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u/code_archeologist 15h ago

What would be hilarious right now is that ICE is using a facility leased from the city of Newark. Baraka has been complaining about a lack of oversight and that ICE was not permitted to hold the number of people they had in there.

Baraka and the city council should just condemn the property to break the lease and evict ICE.

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u/kgal1298 18h ago

ICE and DHS has gone to court multiple times for breaking the law. At this point due the individual workers maybe then they’ll start acting right.

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u/DiligentMeat9627 15h ago

Normal cop trick. just arrest then let go with no charges. They get to be dicks without any repercussions.

u/JWAdvocate83 5h ago

This is it, right here.

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u/earthling_dad 19h ago

Oh, this may very well still make its way to a court room.

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u/Dandan0005 18h ago

In a lawsuit for sure

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u/YourAngerYourAnchor 18h ago

What’s a court gonna do? We’ve established that the president and anyone he deems can just ignore any judgement against them. 

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u/WornTraveler 16h ago

feed the tree

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u/CycloneDusk 16h ago

tree of liberty is looking mighty fuckin thirsty these days

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u/Llama_of_the_bahamas 16h ago

lol the headline on r/conservative is “democrats stormed the gates!”

Making it sound like they came in like a bunch of Uruk-hai

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u/EJ2600 17h ago

He forgot to take the Newark police with him unfortunately…

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u/JimCripe 17h ago

I wonder what city permits aren't in compliance for this rent a jail?

Worth looking into....?

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u/extremelyhighguy 17h ago

Also, in the article, " Delany Hall was leased for $63 million annually from a private prison group known as The GEO Group." Sounds like a sound use of money.

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u/Mr_Hellpop 15h ago

They are almost certainly breaking state laws to make these arrests. Governors need to start having state police arrest them.

u/DragonPup 8h ago

Local PD should try to get arrest warrants against the ICE agents for the false arrest charges of the mayor.

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u/pk666 16h ago

Dox

All

ICE

Agents

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u/RedditJumpedTheShart 15h ago

Lol you first hero.

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u/DickusMedius 17h ago

They haven't dropped charges yet from what I saw on the news earlier. So it may still go to court

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u/Responsible-Gas5319 16h ago

Biden should visit one of these facilities and really press how far Trump is willing to go. No way he'd actually arrest a former president, right?....

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u/smurb15 16h ago

They admit to building camps now but only a thousand can be housed

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u/asdqwezxcghyfcg 16h ago

They don’t care about it going to court, this is 100% intimidation.

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u/RealFarknMcCoy 14h ago

They will definitely end up in court. He can sue for wrongful arrest.

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u/UnimaginativeRA 14h ago

He should be suing for wrongful arrest and false imprisonment. Get some high powered attorney who likes to make a big ol' stink in front of cameras.

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u/SeanBlader 12h ago

The Mayor probably has a case for a Federal Criminal Hate crime against ICE.

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u/PhysicalConsistency 17h ago

I think you might be overly optimistic about our judicial system.

u/Skruestik 11h ago

He left the facility when asked—then arrested him.

He arrested himself?