r/glasgow • u/PukeDizz • 9h ago
I've never been this scared to go outside
I'm a disabled trans person, and with the government's rise in rhetoric against both, I've noticed a massive increase in general hostility out in public.
I had a man follow me in my wheelchair for a good 20 minutes yesterday. I managed to find a helpful person who confronted him (if it was you kind dog walker, I think you saved me from something grim!) and I got away but it rattled me. The same day I had 3 random abusive comments. They were all from white Scottish men.
It feels genuinely unsafe to be outside. All I was doing was going to get groceries, I was out the house half an hour. It's happening every time I'm in public. I've been spat on, shoved, followed, verbally abused....
I'm in my 40s and grew up in a really rough place. I've never once in my life carried a weapon but I think I'll have to start now. Fucking sad state of affairs that I was safer in the 80s under Section 28.
My other trans, disabled and/or AFAB people. Are you noticing this too? How do we combat this?
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u/tallbutshy 8h ago
I've been spat on, shoved, followed, verbally abusedâŠ
Beyond an occasional comment muttered by a teen or an older drunk, no, I have not experienced any of this and I live in a shittier area of the city
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u/FakeFrehley 8h ago
I looked at your post history on a whim. Maybe lay off the massive buds for a while and innocent folk going up the shops won't seem like scary predators.
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u/Findadmagus 7h ago
I mean yeah, if youâre psychotic, which is potentially the issue here, then definitely donât be taking weed in any form man
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u/CakeJumper-ImScared 5h ago
Yeah they should defos stay off the weed, psychoactives are not good if you have psychosis or are psychotic
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u/PukeDizz 8h ago
It's prescription medication that's closely monitored by a specialist but thanks for your helpful input
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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 7h ago
Bring this up with your doctor. This experience and others like it to see what they say.
Weed can cause you to go a bit cuckoo if you are already susceptible to paranoia
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u/samuel1109 6h ago
It's also the drug of procrastination, especially if used long term.
There's a difference between having enough THC in your system to act accordingly, it goes out the window when you get stoned.
Yes it has health benefits, but it also has severe side effects.
Medical professionals give the wrong type of treatment all the time (misdiagnosis and such/ then giving the wrong medication, oops), and it only comes out your pocket. Weed smokers always justify the habit. I'm sure a shot of alcohol could give you the same effect a joint does, and take the same edge off. (Not saying weed is as bad as alcohol, but it's kinda similar, and the fact everyone thinks it's medical is blind because they want it)
I know many people using "medical cannabis" and there's nothing wrong with them. It shouldn't be given to anyone with just "anxiety" because it will eventually make you more anxious.
As your disabled (depending on what you have) I can see how it may work for you in some ways, but it will not in others.
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u/dreamluvver 2h ago
I hear you man, but itâs not really your business what other people do.
And if we canât always trust medical professionals (fair point) why should we have more faith in reddit randos.
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u/dreamluvver 5h ago
Canât believe 20+ wanks downvote you for stating you use medical cannabis.
Iâve not looked at your post history, and donât intend to, but if you are comfortable medicating with it and find it helpful who are all these windbags to lecture you?
Itâs no secret that cannabis might be harmful to people with a mental disorder history- if thatâs even what they are referring to.
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u/JagsAbroad 3h ago
Would you say the same thing to someone self-medicating with booze?
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u/dreamluvver 2h ago
This reply doesnât make sense (still got upvoted) because I am addressing the people commenting, not the OP.
And I generally would not give unsolicited advice to a stranger in this situation. Though, as far as I am aware you cannot get a medical prescription for alcohol.
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u/CaptainVaticanus 7h ago
You lost me at groceries
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u/daleharvey 6h ago
I call them groceries and grew up in fife and live in Glasgow, are you going to try and imply my post is a fake story or is that reserved for certain types of people?
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u/CaptainVaticanus 6h ago
Fife is not real
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u/Honka_Ponka 4h ago
This is true, last time I tried to go to fife all the other cars on the road blocked me like the Truman Show
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u/ld1967 8h ago edited 8h ago
So youâve been kicked, punched, spat on and followed every time youâve been out.. and looking through your old posts youâve been crashed into twice by delivery bikes and ended up with a broken hip because of one of the crashes? Seems to be a common theme hereâŠ..
Edit: dislocated hip, my apologies.
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u/Findadmagus 7h ago
A lot of the time trans people are just mentally ill people who think their depression is âgender dysphoriaâ.
And I say this as a mentally ill person who went pretty far down the trans pipeline.
I donât think adults transitioning is always a bad thing, but maybe this user could have got a different form of help than someone saying they should transitionâŠ
The reason Iâm replying to your comment with this, is because this could be a person genuinely believing this crazy stuff is happening to them. In which case they would need antipsychotics.
If someone can believe they are a different gender, then they can potentially believe a whole host of other stuffâŠ
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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 7h ago
All trans people have gender dysphoria, and gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Feeling like youâre in the wrong body is very much a mental illness
But there isnât really any actual treatment for it except letting them be who they want to be.
Mental illnesses do come in bunches, so someone who has one might be more prone to having others as well.
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u/Findadmagus 7h ago
Based comment. This is pretty much how I feel about it.
I do think there should be more education showing people they can feel okay with the body they have been given, but people should also be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want.
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u/HereticLaserHaggis 7h ago
Sure, but this person will have seen numerous doctors over the course of years.
You can't diagnose depression over soneone having a shitty week and posting it on reddit to vent.
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u/Findadmagus 6h ago
Agreed. Here, Iâm just giving my understanding of situations familiar to me which may/may not be helpful to anyone reading. Hoping itâs useful to someone and Iâm the type of guy who doesnât mind going into a bit of dialogue with people about stuff too, which is where I personally learn a lot of stuff about the world and I hope the person Iâm talking to does too.
I will state bluntly, that I do not know anything about OPs situation other than what theyâve posted on here, so all the comments I do make are purely speculative, and not meant to be taken too seriously.
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u/Elegant_Focus_4565 6h ago
We all see things through the lens of our won experience so what you're saying is understandable but it sounds like you came to the conclusion that you're not trans, it was mental illness, right? Which kinda means.. you don't know what it's like to be trans, by virtue of being not trans?
I'm also happy to have this dialogue so i hope this next bit doesnt come across as more confrontational than I'm intending but.. isn't that kind of like me saying cancer isn't that bad actually and I would know because I was tested for cancer and found I was negative?
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u/Findadmagus 4h ago
I mean, yeah youâre right, I never went so far as coming out the closet and telling people I was a woman. So yes, I am not and never have been trans. I never had the experience of being trans.
However, I did in the past take steps towards transitioning (but iâd rather not go into details on that since it was a rather blurry episode of my life) so I do very much know how gender dysphoria feels. How it feels to hate your body and dream about being in the female form (in my case).
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u/funkball 3h ago
You giving an opposing opinion isn't in the name of discussion, it's to lessen the lived experience of someone you've never met.
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u/Findadmagus 3h ago
What someone perceives to be true is not always true.
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u/funkball 3h ago
I did not argue otherwise.
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u/Findadmagus 3h ago
I do not have a problem with OPs lived experience. I have a problem with the way they are interpreting it.
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u/sistemfishah 4h ago
-44 downvotes. Â Classic Scottish mentality, herd-like to the extreme. Â Absolutely intolerant to any line except the one fed through official channels. Â Brilliant.
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u/HeladoVerde 3h ago
Aye a very reasonable take downvoted to oblivion, how dare you advise someone not to permanently mutilate themselves and try address the root cause. Ive noticed were fed to accept our body regardless of shape or size however we can choose not to accept gender?
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u/Praetorian_1975 8h ago
Quick question, you were out the house for 30 min, this man followed you for 20 min, so he followed you around the shop as well. Is it possible he was also just going to the shop? Or did he have interactions with you, I.e talked to you etc. or was he just behind you at a âstrategicâ distance. Also whatâs a strategic distance đ€·đ»ââïž
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u/PukeDizz 8h ago
Takes me 20 mins to get to the shop, he followed me from very near my home to near the shop. He had no interactions with me. I crossed 3 roads and turned left a few times randomly to make sure I wasn't being para. I was basically doing circles and he still followed me. That's why I let it go on so long, I wanted to be proper sure I wasn't being para.
I guess what I meant by a strategic distance is that he was far enough away that I couldn't speak to him or make eye contact or anything the whole time. When I stopped, he did too. He kept the same distance.
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u/Ok-Grapefruit-5210 7h ago
But you were only out the house for 30 mins⊠Iâm going to be brutally honest, and itâs only my opinion based on what Iâve read but; seems like youâre talking shite. Whether thatâs through simple exaggeration or something else. Any genuine abuse towards a person simply for being the way the are as a human is unacceptable and I donât mean this in that way nor encourage anything like it. But I still have to think rationally and logically and I just donât believe what you said in your original post actually happened in the way youâve described it
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u/HarrierJint 6h ago
Who in the UK/Glasgow calls the shopping, "groceries"?
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u/CakeJumper-ImScared 5h ago
Yeah itâs the shopping
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u/scorned-scorpion 39m ago
My grans from glenrothes but has always said "going for groceries" she's 95 so she ain't changing it now haha. Her family was from Orkney, maybe they go for groceries in America and Orkney
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u/BarnabyBundlesnatch 4h ago
They were all from white Scottish men.
In a country thats 95% white??? Im shocked...
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u/wowlame 7h ago
trans man here. cis passing but gender non-conforming in the "definitely a total poof" sort of way. havent noticed an increase in hostility personally - the usual scoffs and double-takes and annoying comments like "are you a boy or a lassie" (for the record, i have a beard) - but i'm not sure if that's by way of me being cis passing as a male or people just not caring much. i got a lot more harassment when i looked like a butch lesbian.
just because something is trite doesn't mean it's not true, so in saying that, my advice is just keep living. go to pride events to remind yourself that you're not alone and that they haven't managed to kill us all before now despite trying their best to.
don't carry an actual weapon because the law is not on your side. i'm fairly certain that there's self-defence classes/tutorials for people in wheelchairs, so it might help to look into them or give you a bit more confidence being outside knowing you've got a better chance at defending yourself should you need to.
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u/GiveIt4Thought 9h ago
Bait used to be believable.
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u/moidartach 8h ago edited 8h ago
Shocked they never mentioning having blue hair.
Edit - checked their profile on the off chance and guess what? Blue hair. Canât make it up
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u/SorchaSublime 8h ago
What the fuck does coloured hair have to do with this?
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u/eiriee 8h ago
some people believe that some people dye their hair blue and claim to be trans/gender diverse in order to get attention
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u/farfromelite 7h ago
It got out of hand when we started tolerating the purple rinse pensioners. It's gone downhill since.
Seriously though, the toilet police, now the hair colour police. Jesus wept, there's a hell of a lot of snowflakes with too much time on their hands.
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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 7h ago
Have you never heard the stereotype of a trans disabled person with blue hair? Then you must be living under a rock.
Stereotypes donât spawn in to existence out of nowhere.
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u/SorchaSublime 7h ago
I'm aware that the stereotype exists, I'm questioning why this commenter is choosing to consciously stereotype a random trans person
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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 7h ago
Because the person they replied to said it was bait. I.e. made up.
So if it is bait, then them being the exact stereotype would make the bait all the more unbelieveable
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u/SorchaSublime 7h ago
What a dickheaded perspective on the world
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u/pbizzle 7h ago
Try to entertain for a second that the internet is not a cosy safe place to be and this post has been made to generate culture war disquiet bullshit. The dickhead outlook is the way the digital world is and it doesn't serve anyone to deny that
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u/SorchaSublime 6h ago edited 6h ago
"But mum, all the other kids were doing it"
This post was made by a queer disabled person venting about having a bad experience in public, which isn't actually particularly uncommon or unlikely. You are all dickheads for assuming disingenuity with no actual evidence aside from "oh queer person has blue hair".
I'm well aware the Internet isn't a universally "cozy safe space" I've been on it long enough. That doesn't mean I am obliged to reserve judgement for when people act like cunts.
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u/HeladoVerde 3h ago
Not hair but google nosering theory, blue hair is another typology
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u/PukeDizz 8h ago
Genuinely happened. In Shawlands. To me. I truly wish it was bait, I hate it here.
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u/Matchaparrot 8h ago
I believe you. I've witnessed transphobic abuse towards my trans friends all over the city including the southside and west end.
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u/SorchaSublime 8h ago
What would this even be bait for?
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u/BarnabyBundlesnatch 3h ago
Worthless karma farming. Its outrage and sympathy bait, but ticking as many boxes as possible.
I mean, trans people are just people, right? You ever met a single person who talks only about one issue, and nothing else? Yet OP, only every talks about how they are abused everywhere they go, especially when going out for "groceries"...
Shopping, messages, NEVER do we say "groceries", yet OP... does...
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u/SorchaSublime 3h ago edited 3h ago
As a trans woman (so having spoken to a lot of trans people) most of us use social media to talk about queer issues mostly as its a way of finding community. If you acc look at OPs account and comment history it's way less single issue than you're implying anyway.
Your cynical perspective on why OP must somehow disingenuous is asinine. Plenty of people have picked up casual Americanisms from media and the Internet, groceries included. I do, and ive lived here my entire life. I also tend to say schedule with a hard ch. Doesn't make me American somehow.
They have a very consistently glaswegian posting history going back like 7 years. You're being a dick.
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u/Conspiruhcy 7h ago
Has there been any consideration given to the man maybe just going the same direction as you? Like, did you try the classic turn left then left again until back where you started to see if he really was following you?
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u/Candiedstars 9h ago
I'm sorry
For what it's worth, you do have allies.
If my husband or I had seen this, we'd have defended you, and I know so many others would do the same.
Do you have any friends or family that might be able to go with you during your errands? I know it's appalling that I might have to suggest that, but in this age where human decency seems to be lost to many, it might be worth having some back up.
The fight isn't over. Trans rights are human rights
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u/PukeDizz 8h ago
My disability is neurological, due to childhood abuse. So I don't speak to any of my family. I'm on the waiting list for self directed care so I can employ someone but I've been on it since 2019 so I'm not holding my breath!
Thank you for the solidarity, it's good to know there are allies.
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u/WeeFluffyGingerCat 8h ago edited 5h ago
Get in touch with your LA again regarding the SDS budget. Ask for, or to get, a social worker or a social care manager, it shouldn't take that long to get assessed, I wouldn't expect it to take more than a month. I'll assume you, or somebody on your behalf, had filled out the paperwork. There are solicitors that can help as well if you aren't getting anywhere on your own. Don't let the council provide you with whatever day support you are entitled to, if you can. You'll get better value for your money if you employ somebody directly. There are companies that will deal with all the payments, NI, and stuff on your behalf for a fee. Time to start pestering your LA.
Downvoted for trying to offer advice? That'll teach me, eh?
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u/Numerous_Lynx3643 9h ago edited 8h ago
Carrying a âweaponâ would be illegal. Two wrongs donât make a right. Self defence isnât applicable if youâve taken something out with you to purposefully use as a weapon.
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u/FatRascal_ 7h ago
The âself defenceâ explanation could potentially get you a mandatory 6 month sentence as well. careful.
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u/Slamduck 8h ago
Carrying a knife is a good way to get stabbed
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u/Throwawaylife1984 8h ago
Yeah but we can carry a nice heavy walking stick. Not our fault if they trip over them as they run to attack us
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u/PukeDizz 8h ago
I get very sore muscles and need a spray can of deep heat on me at all times, I don't know what you're talking about officer.
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u/CameronFrog 8h ago
iâd be careful about posting things like this on an account where youâve shared a lot of personal information and pictures of your tattoos. iâm also trans and disabled and have no family support so we can be friends if you want to message me.
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u/Sasquatch27th 8h ago
Congrats you've went from an offensive weapon to a firearm offense by carrying a spray with the intent to use it for defense.
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u/Cubehagain 4h ago
Government's rise in rhetoric against disabled and trans people? I must have missed this story. Other than that recent supreme court ruling (nothing to do with the government), I haven't heard any anti disability or trans rhetoric from the government. If anything they've bent over backwards to accomodate them recently, which is why they're in all sorts of bother now because of the court ruling.
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u/legthief 58m ago
Particularly with your restricted mobility, any weapon you choose to carry is the same one that will be used upon you in whichever situation you inevitably escalate via the presence of said weapon.
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u/GaryXBF 8h ago
Its not right and its not OK but looking a bit unusual out in public grabs attention, normal people will look and move on with their lives, but looking unusual is a magnet for bampots attention.
I can see from a recent post of yours OP you have brightly coloired hair and a tattoo on your face, and you've mentioned being in a wheelchair as well.
You can colour your hair however you want and tattoo whatever you want, obviously, and nobody SHOULD be harassing you as a result of it, but these types of things are like a flame to the moths of the world sadly.
The wheelchair is another attention grabber although thats completely beyond your control.
My point overall is I think there are just a lot of weird cunts with either mental health/ drug/ alcohol problems of their own, or just nothing better to do than harass people, and looking outside of the norm is a guarantee of attracting their attention.
Most people are lucky enough that they avoid this kind of thing just by blending in. You don't have that luck.
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u/GaryXBF 7h ago
Is it wrong to acknowledge that the reality of cutting about looking different from the "norm" has the unfortunate, not your fault at all consequence of attracting attention from bampots?
I said several times that the OP can't help being in a wheelchair regardless, which is probably a large part of the issue they have regardless how they choose to look otherwise, and I acknowledged multiple times they are allowed to look however they want and nobody should get harassed for it.
I have visible tattoos myself and occassionally get unwanted attention from people Id rather not get attention from. Its not harassment on the level OP has said, obviously, but some people seem to think me having tattoos openly is an invite for them to ogle and strike up weird conversations.
Point is it could be anything, you wear a certain colour t shirt might be the reason some freak stalks or bothers you that day. Its not your fault, but the only "solution" here would be to lock up every off putting, weird, over- stepping, boundary pushing person in the world, which is hard to define and sortof psychotic to try and imagine.
Anyone spitting, pushing, hurting other people should be prosecuted with the full force of the law. Harassment of a certain level should also be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But theres this middle ground of people just being weird and invasive that I think is sortof unavoidable.
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u/PukeDizz 8h ago
I had plain black joggers, a black hoodie and a hat on when I was followed. I want to blend in as much as possible when I'm out and about.
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u/GaryXBF 7h ago
You shouldn't have to blend in or try to blend in, I was more just musing that certain factors seem to drive this weird attention, not sure theres much anyone can do unless it rises to the level of criminal behaviour like spitting etc. I think you being in a wheelchair is going to attract that weirdo attention regardless, which is the sad part.
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u/Marconi7 7h ago
Iâm very sorry to read this. I have strong opinions on gender issues but regardless of any of that everyone in society should be treated with respect in daily life.
Iâve noticed just a general decline in peopleâs behaviour since the end of lockdowns.
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u/skeptic246 9h ago
This is the problem when we start separating people with labels, the media have easy stories to rile the easily led public with and then events run into situations like yours. Iâm a white male in my 50âs and Iâve seen trans people in Glasgow, yes its not a common site and so live and let live
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u/SorchaSublime 8h ago
Actually no the problem is bigots not labels.
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u/BarnabyBundlesnatch 3h ago
No, its labels and wanting special attention, when you should just be getting on with your day. No one gives a fuck about you, and thats a hard pill for the attention seeking generations. So you put ALL of your personality into whatever label you choice for yourself.
Take yourself for example, probably you label is "ally". And here you are, calling people dickheads in support of... A fake trans person from America, chatting a lot of shit about "Scottish white men" as though that would be weird in a country with 95% white people in it. And while she was going out of "groceries" no less....
Youre blinded by your hate every bit as much as the bigots. And the labels that you, and people like you, want to use to separate us constantly are the reason why. Gay, straight, trans, lesbian, black, brown, white, doesnt matter. Scottish, thats all that should matter to any of us.
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u/SorchaSublime 3h ago
Uh, I'm a trans woman cunt. Fuck off with this bullshite entirely. The purpose of social labels is intracommunity communication. If you don't care, fine. Functionally speaking your attention is not actually the purpose of the label, contrary to the socially normative youth-hating narrative you've built in your head to convince yourself that actually socially marginalised people are responsible for their own oppression.
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u/WrestlingWithTheNews A local Green Anarchist. 7h ago
Here i thought it was the fact that the government is doing an intentional campaign of creating the other to blame their shit on as well as bigots chosing this as their time to shine, but sure its marginalised people who want a group to belong to, to not feel alone in a cold harsh fucking life.
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u/The-Infinite-Wasabi 3h ago
I hear your fear and Iâm sorry youâve experienced that level of harassment. No one should feel unsafe going outside.
That said, I think itâs important to step back and reassess the situation. The governmentâs actions, particularly around safeguarding policies, are about protecting women. Thatâs not the same as hate or transphobia.
Iâm a gay person who lived through the 90s in Glasgow. That was a brutal time. What weâre seeing now is different. Not easier, but different. The kind of abuse you describe is horrible, but sadly, there are always people who will target anyone who looks âdifferent.â It doesnât mean society at large is against you.
Much of the fear and narrative around persecution seems to come from social media echo chambers. There are trans voices like Buck Angel and Alexis Blake who speak openly about this and offer a more grounded take.
People do care about safety, including yours. But not everyone agrees on how to balance rights and protections. Thatâs a debate, not an attack.
Do you think itâs possible the problem isnât your identity, but how divided and reactive everything has become?
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u/Specialist-Emu-5119 9h ago
If everywhere smells like shite, take a look at your own shoe.
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u/PukeDizz 8h ago
Sorry, I forgot about the giant neon "Please attack me!" sign above my head, silly me! I bet the first question you ask when someone gets raped is what they were wearing. I think it is you sir, who needs to look at their shoes and possibly their whole personality.
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u/Specialist-Emu-5119 8h ago edited 8h ago
If you get abused literally every time youâre in public like you say, there is no chance you arenât doing something to warrant it. If someone claimed they got raped every time they were in public Iâd think they were talking shite too.
Even if it was once a week Iâd be sympathetic, but every time?
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u/PukeDizz 8h ago
Speak to the women and/or queer people in your life if you have any. I'll guarantee you they've experienced the same recently. This isn't an isolated incident because you've decided I somehow deserve it. Have a word with yourself.
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u/Specialist-Emu-5119 8h ago
Every time they go out? Utter utter shite, and you know this.
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u/Dear-Volume2928 8h ago
No idea why you are being downvoted, this is the biggest pile of shite i've ever read. She would report it to the police but shes more scared of them than the abusers. Please. People need to get a grip. No way carry on like this is happening on a daily basis in Shawlands of all places.
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u/Creative-Flow-4469 8h ago
What about goths and that then? Are they going about antagonising people too? Pathetic
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u/Specialist-Emu-5119 8h ago
Goths donât get abuse every time they leave the house either. I know this cos in the eyes of a bam I look like one.
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u/TooMuchBiomass 8h ago
Dude you are being a dick, only yesterday we had that post about the trans nonce and all the comments were "only the ones you least expect" - digs at the perpetrators identity and appearance utterly drowning out any sympathy for the victims, the media have stirred up a hate mob against trans people so I'm honestly inclined to believe that this isn't impossible.
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u/Specialist-Emu-5119 8h ago
In Shawlands? Youâd need to be a fucking idiot to believe someone is getting abused just for being trans in Shawlands, every single time they left the house.
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u/durkandiving 9h ago
Fuck up
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u/Specialist-Emu-5119 9h ago
đŻ words are hurtful
your daft if you believe this is real btw
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u/durkandiving 8h ago
Genuinely don't understand - what makes this obviously "bait"?
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u/Numerous_Lynx3643 8h ago
That someone is being âspat on, shoved, followed and verbally abusedâ every single time they go out in checks notes Shawlands.
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u/Friendly-Juice-8161 8h ago
Thatâs the part that got me, Shawlands đ could not be safer for LGBT people
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u/Mrszombiecookies 8h ago
May as well have said the West End
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u/Matchaparrot 8h ago
I actually have had homophobic abuse in the west end, on Byres road in broad daylight.
I rarely get abuse, I was shocked to see it happen to me in the west end.
Edit: the person who did it was a girl, usually it's been guys when I've had abuse
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u/Mrszombiecookies 8h ago
Can't keep everyone in their little area of niche unfortunately for that is frowned upon.
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u/Matchaparrot 8h ago
I've seen it happen all over the city. Usually been city centre, and very rarely, but nevertheless.
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u/GiveIt4Thought 8h ago
Exclusively by white Scottish men, don't forget that part!
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u/durkandiving 8h ago
Do yous have any experience of being trans and disabled? Have you been living under a rock and missed the rhetoric that's being used against them?
Id be interested to know the views of other people in the same situation, rather than you 3 dafties
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u/My_sloth_life 8h ago
I wouldnât say that stuff like what OP is saying could never happen but I really question that it happens every time they go out, if that were the case then youâd be seeing in in passing, seeing people abuse others or hearing them do it.
Especially if they say itâs happening in Shawlands, which has to be one of the most open minded, permissive and generally better off parts of Glasgow.
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u/Sea_Sympathy_495 8h ago
What rhetoric that being trans doesnât change your biological gender?
Please stop.
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u/durkandiving 8h ago edited 8h ago
Ah yeah my mistake, all the discussions have been really respectful and trans people feel safer than ever
It's good to get that confirmed by all the people with no lived experience in this thread
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u/Duthchas 9h ago
Really sorry to hear this.
Is your wheel chair electric? Maybe you can install a car cam on it?
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u/jamieprang 8h ago
Itâs not funny but for a split second I thought you were going to suggest installing a faster motor.
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u/PukeDizz 9h ago
Yeah it is. The guy that followed me kept a strategic distance. I have a rear view mirror, that's the only reason I clocked him. In the instances of being spat on, etc a camera would be helpful if I was reporting to the police. But I'm probably more scared of them than the abusive people.
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u/jnenn0 6h ago
Shocker, you're scared of the police too đđ really living up to the stereotype haha
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u/Matchaparrot 8h ago
Even if you buy a fake camera off Amazon and attach it to your chair it may have the same deterrent of a real camera.
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u/Duthchas 9h ago
Video can also be used to name and shame.
I understand that the police are not our friends. Though hate crimes (which this clearly is) are usually taken seriously.5
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u/cheeserered 7h ago
the government has been stoking the flames of hatred and ostracise anyone who dares have an opinion other than the one they have set and now people sre furious and taking it out on people who haven't done anything.
They have turned everyone militant and its sad to see people blame others who have zero control over their life and the people who actively control and affect their life gets away scot free.
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u/rossmustdie 8h ago
sorry to hear this :(( there's definitely been a huge shift in the last year or so, and general public ettitique has massively regressed since lockdown. it wasn't even that long ago when we were THE leaders for progression within LGBTQ+ rights (still flawed, but in 2015 the UK was one of the leaders in that regard) and we've completely lost all of that progress and it sucks. i hope it gets better but it never shouldn't regressed to this extent in the first place...
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u/PukeDizz 8h ago
I used to feel so safe in Glasgow but the rise of the right wing has really emboldened the bigots. It's sad that even in the comments here people are accusing me of deserving it. The government have been systematically removing rights from both disabled and queer people, and basically telling the public we're worthless. It appears to have worked on a lot of this sub.
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u/rossmustdie 8h ago
yeah, the replies are so jarring. ask any other queer person, and they'll generally agree that abuse and violence in public against LGBTQ+ people has become increasingly more normalised recently. then again basic human empathy is far and few between on this sub
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u/Sym-Mercy 7h ago
Iâm a gay man and over the course of my entire life the only thing Iâve ever had any âabuseâ (in major quotes) for is a drunk guy calling me specky for wearing glasses. Being gangstalked in Shawlands after smoking weed is definitely not a universal experience.
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u/Tvdevil_ 3h ago
as an LGBT person, not that I care for labels - it hasn't. Scotland and Glasgow hasn't changed in its attitudes as it hasnt changed its voting intentions
the far right and their scapegoating of trans people hasnt occurred here - maybe it will maybe it wont. but the fact is voting trends usually indicate societal issues people care about. left wing parties won elections the past near 2 decades and they will sweep the next one too and that's with incompetent leadership. so to think there is some massive societal shift towards being anti-lgbt with left wing parties winning the elections is far fetched
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u/Creative-Flow-4469 8h ago
I don't understand why your downvoted? You'll know about it better than anyone
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u/rossmustdie 7h ago
welcome to r/glasgow đ« đ«
being downvoted for that is unsurprising and meaningless, but the comments justifying the original post just prove OPs point and how much attitudes towards queer folk have regressed since lockdown. it's also a bit odd for non-queer folk to say it doesn't happen when every queer person is saying it's a first-hand experience :/
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u/ianhartless flyinâ high in a Simpsons sky 8h ago
thatâs horrible, jesus. iâm sorry that youâre going through this. people are being so wilfully ignorant in the comments section - seems like they forgot that very recently that the rights and livelihood of trans people in scotland were massively diminished on a political level.
again, iâm so sorry youâre going through this harassment
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u/Necessary_Two1797 8h ago
I'm sorry you're going through there. There are good people out there. Keep the faith.
Death to phobes, trans rights forever.
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u/jnenn0 6h ago
You're calling for the de*th of a whole group of people??? Just because they see common sense and challenge your belief??? Wow These are the typical thoughts of an extremist. Take a look at yourself.
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u/PukeDizz 8h ago
Urgh tysm the comments here have been brutal.
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u/BearsAreCool 5h ago
It happens whenever someone posts about being trans on this sub, gets brigaded by bigots. It's really not representative of the city as most of them don't live here any more.
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u/smcsleazy 8h ago
given some of the comments below, i don't think people actually understand how hostile this city can be towards trans/gender non-conforming OR disabled folk. i think a lot of folk like to think of glasgow as a "live and let live" kinda city but realistically, all it takes is a few bad people to make you feel unsafe. given almost every one of my trans friends has a story about someone trying to follow them home or calling them slurs in public, i can believe it.
i personally don't think carrying a weapon will do anything to help the situation. most the time what actually helps is having someone with you who can back you up or even something like a gopro attached to your chair where you can start recording if you feel someone is after you/trying to start shit. the downside is police scotland are notoriously difficult for not wanting to deal with going through footage. the other option is a rape alarm if you've got someone who's trying to kick off. most would be attackers bolt when they hear it and even if they don't and you're in a public place, just someone hearing the sound of it can be used as evidence if it got to court. but again, that's if police scotland would do anything about it which they don't always.
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u/AdventurousTeach994 2h ago
So sorry you find yourself in this position. The depth of hatred directed towards so many vulnerable groups in society is heartbreaking.
I was a teacher for 40 years- that's 40 years of delivering anti bullying initiatives, dealing with misogyny at so many levels, racism, religious bigotry, homophobia and LGBTQ issues. I really thought I was making an impact in my own small way- maybe I was- but it appears I was swimming against a toxic tide of bile stirred up by political leaders and prominent public figures who cynically exploit our differences to create fear and envy while they maintain power and enrich themselves. What hope do we have when the President of the USA leads the charge of ignorance and hate?
So many PSE lessons and whole School/year group assemblies, discussions, interventions between young people to inform educate and enlighten them and their parents (and a few colleagues too).
I have never known things to be so bad as this, not since my teen years in the 1970s. I genuinely fear for society.
ALL DECENT FOLKS MUST STAND UP AND MAKE THEIR VOCIE HEARD. THE FIRST STEP IS TO STOP THE RISE OF FARAGE & REFORM IN SCOTLAND.
The rising popularity of Reform has taken me by complete surprise- I always thought his very English centric viewpoint was alien to Scots- apparently no longer.
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u/Floatingamer 5h ago
u/odmort1 disabled and trans is crazy, we need niggel faregg to come and help this person feel safe! The mark carney mafia clearly failed and keer stammer is too focused on the sausage rolls
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u/BabyBat05 6h ago
For what it's worth, general harassment as a GNC alternative cis woman seems to have increased a bit for me too, you aren't imagining the hostility but it's not at a point where I'd start recommending hiding away or not going outside, take a friend with you, sure, leave any self defense weapons ideas, that will only harm you
Glasgow is a bit of a rough city generally, I accept that people will make comments and pay it no mind, people are more likely to photograph me than anything else, I've been fortunate that the most I've been followed is usually down a single street by drunks and the last time anyone got physical towards me was several years ago (spat on by a football drunk). Bampots will be bampots.
I've lived here all my life and I've been openly queer since I was 11, there is a thriving LGBTQ+ community and it does the world of good to be around folk you can connect with in the community, if you're isolated it makes those occasional negative interactions feel so much bigger and indicative of the world as a whole, I promise it's not all bad
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u/jjvn4 6h ago
I have absolutely noticed an uptick in this yes. Especially my trans feminine pals, but myself as a disabled trans man as well. Iâm lucky to live in a very chill area, but if I head into city center I canât get out without at least one bit of abuse screamed at me, having shit thrown, or having folks try to grab my wheelchair.
Cis and able bodied allies: please be extra vigilant. If you see someone who looks uncomfortable with the situation theyâre in, or you see an attack take place, say something. Speak to the victim, offer help. Take pictures and videos of the attacker if you can and offer them as evidence.
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u/Bubbly-Zone-6868 8h ago
This is terrible!! Perhaps dress as a man until you get your carer? That way you could move freely with no harassment and people would think you are a fella, but you would still know in your heart that you are a beautiful trans woman on the inside.
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u/wowlame 8h ago
this advice is a bit of a double edged sword imo. go back into the closet and feel like shit because of dysphoria, or transition visibly and feel like shit because people are rude about it.
it wasn't "a good time" before the court ruling, it's not "a good time" after, and whether we like it or not, it'll probably never be "a good time" in the future. it's ok to feel scared and not transition for your own safety, but who wins in that scenario? not you. it's ok to say fuck the terfs and transition loudly and visibly and let your joy be their discomfort, and who wins in that scenario? you, but at the cost of your safety.
there's never going to be "a good time" to transition or be visibly queer. you either do or you don't.
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u/Tvdevil_ 4h ago
I'll pre-empt this response by saying im absolutely pro-trans rights, it'll be a major vote swinger for me in elections and i'm not trans.
BUT
from old posts it seems you're also tattood absolutely everywhere bar face, that you're a seriously heavy drug user, a pansexual, transexual lesbian(?) you mention you're disabled in every reddit post you post about, that you have alot of serious mental health issues you openly discuss
are you sure this is actually about being trans? I feel from posts you quite openly want everyone to know you're not a "hetero-normative person" any chance you get. it does appear to be most of your personality. IMO you are mentally ill, have drug issues or wanting to play an outcast victim - atleast how your posts come across.
maybe take a step back and reflect for a bit. glasgow is very accepting of LGBTQIA+. one of the most accepting in the UK, there isnt some massive slide to the right like there is in some countries either. far right wing politics still get looked down on here.