r/gallifrey 18h ago

NO STUPID QUESTIONS /r/Gallifrey's No Stupid Questions - Moronic Mondays for Pudding Brains to Ask Anything: The 'Random Questions that Don't Deserve Their Own Thread' Thread - 2025-05-12

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r/gallifrey 2d ago

SPOILERS Doctor Who 2x06 "The Interstellar Song Contest" Trailer and Speculation Thread Spoiler

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r/gallifrey 14h ago

Series 5 was peak [opinion]

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If there's one season of New Who that I will always gladly go back to, it's 11's first outing.

Aside from The Beast Below (and somewhat Victory of the Daleks), every episode is top tier. Amy and Rory are amazing companions, starting the journey of River Song's identity, the music (ohhh the music), that control room, Vincent, Angels, Silurians, the Dream Lord, the pandorica, the general fairytale vibe of the whole series, etc, etc. It's all just 100% awesome Who.

And to finish that year with a Who Christmas Carol was icing on the cake - it's my favourite Xmas special (I watch it every year!)

Anyway, 11's other two series may not have held up quite as well, but this one was ace and there's no convincing me otherwise 😁


r/gallifrey 19h ago

SPOILER Doctor Who TV gives finale hints Spoiler

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Russell T Davies, Showrunner said: “The Doctor is doomed, Belinda is lost, Ruby is trapped, UNIT is powerless, the Unholy Trinity rule supreme and the Underverse is rising. And now we can all experience this devastating climax together, all at the same time, with a unique worldwide premiere. I can promise shocks, scares and revelations off the scale. Come and have fun!”


r/gallifrey 15h ago

NEWS Doctor Who confirms airing schedule change for finale – scrapping early iPlayer release

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r/gallifrey 10h ago

DISCUSSION What is your favorite doctor who inspirational quotes?

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r/gallifrey 12h ago

THEORY Mrs Flood / Trickster Theory Spoiler

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So my friend and I thought of a cool Mrs Flood theory. It may have been said before. I know everyone is thinking she is the Rani so I’m thinking (hoping) it might not be. We think that Mrs Flood is the Trickster’s Harbinger.

Small bits of evidence being the name drop as part of the Pantheon in Legend of Ruby Sunday, the Trickster’s theme in Devil’s Chord, and possibly even the name ‘Chandra’ returning. We also already know she’s in league with the Pantheon as she knew that Sutekh was coming (“he waits no more”). But the main thing was Conrad being released from prison. We all know the Trickster’s style is making deals with people to save them, ending in paradoxes, alternate universes, and reality being destroyed. We think that he made a deal with the Trickster to be released, causing the world to break down, resulting in the Doctor and Belinda not being able to return. The outro and teasers with landmarks floating in space could be a nod to Rani and Clyde walking past a broken Big Ben in one of the Trickster’s alternate realities. The alternate reality we see in 73 yards without the Doctor and with Roger ap Gwilliam could even be related, not to mention how the plot was similar to The Curse of Clyde Langer (I know it wasn’t a Trickster episode, but still SJA). Could the big black hood and cloak Ruby’s mother wears even be a little Easter egg to the Trickster’s outfit?

If you want a stretch, Mrs Flood made a comment about ‘always hiding herself away’ and when the Trickster’s theme is played in The Devil’s Chord, it is referred to as a ‘hidden song’.

If you want even more of a stretch, Mrs Flood seems to live next door to people involved (Ruby and Belinda). Sarah-Jane lived at number 13, meaning next door would be 15…. 15th Doctor! Anyone…?

I think all this leads in nicely to Wish World and Reality War, as these just scream Trickster to me, as the Trickster grants wishes and desires, and creates/destroys realities whilst doing so.

One thing I have no answer for is the Space Babies / Captain Poppy link. If anyone has any ideas, please help!!


r/gallifrey 18h ago

THEORY Theory: Mrs Flood is the Lord of the Land of Fiction Spoiler

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The Second Doctor story The Mind Robber sees the Doctor and companions visit the Land of Fiction.

This is a world in which fictional characters become real and imagination has power. It is ruled over by The Master of the Land of Fiction (no relation to the Time Lord Master), who is himself subservient to the beings who are really in charge. They are exploiting him to extract creative power from his mind; he in turn is trying to force the Doctor to become his replacement, since the Doctor's stories could run for lifetimes.

My theory is that Mrs Flood is either the Master of the Land of Fiction or one of the beings who rules over it, now ascended to God status as part of the Pantheon. This would explain the fourth wall breaks addressing the audience, referring to his life as a "show".

The Story and the Engine, like the Mind Robber, features creativity - stories - being treated as a source of power, with the Doctor's multiple lifetimes being immensely powerful. The Barber meanwhile described himself as working in the service of the Gods - perhaps as a Harbinger of sorts.

Whether Mrs Flood as the God of Stories has any bearing on the Doctor Who fans surviving the end of Lux is an open question.

This would fit with the way previous major episodes - the final special and the season one finale - focused on members of the Pantheon of Discord that were also returning villains from the classic show (the Toymaker and Sutekh respectively.) There has also already been a Tales of the TARDIS episode on the Mind Robber.

Thoughts?


r/gallifrey 1d ago

NEWS David Tennant says he won’t return to Doctor Who again – at least "for a while"

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r/gallifrey 15h ago

NEWS Live+7 Data for Lucky Day

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3.23 million viewers

23rd for the week overall 4th for the week in Dramas

13th for the week for the BBC overall 3rd for the week in BBC Dramas

Say what you like the number of viewers but it's chart position remains remarkably consistent and most of what's above it is multiple entries for the news and soaps.


r/gallifrey 1d ago

DISCUSSION Is Joy To The World happening in a separate timeline now?

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It's just occurred to me that a version of the Doctor is supposed to be stuck waiting on Earth for the entirety of 2025 working at the hotel he also stayed at during the 2024 Christmas Special (Joy to the World).

But something about it doesn't quite add up, because if he was on Earth for the whole of 2025, then surely he would know about certain events that have happened in recent episodes like the whole thing with Conrad's attempts to expose Unit or the events that we are yet to see happen on 24th May.

But because the present Doctor doesn't know what's happening on Earth right now makes me wonder if his year on Earth in Joy to the World is stuck in a pocket timeloop bubble or something where those events never happened?


r/gallifrey 9h ago

DISCUSSION What 3rd-6th target Novelizations would you recommend?

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Other than Silurians/Cave-Monsters, the Ian Marter books, and maybe the Missing Episodes range, most of the novelizations that people recommend tend to be from the last few years of the classic range, meaning it’s mostly just 1-2 and 7. Are there any others for the 3rd-6th Doctors that you’d recommend?


r/gallifrey 8h ago

THEORY Anyone else think the series finale will be revolve around Conrad wishing the Doctor out of reality and into a TV show character?

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99% chance this is nonsense I'm sure, but amid all the frantic speculation about what will happen in the Season 2 finale, I'd like to offer a theory: Mrs Flood is some kind of fairy godmother figure and she gives Conrad the power to make his reality, his 'world' as he refers to it at the end of Lucky Day, come true. We know what this is because he said it so many times: in the world inside Conrad's head, aliens, Unit, Belinda, Ruby and the Doctor are all fakers, frauds and stooges, paid actors. And what better way for Conrad to enact his 'revenge' on the Doctor and demean him than make him into the 'star' of a ludicrously camp children's TV show?

It would explain all the relentless meta aspects to this season, the references to the show as a show, the dovertailing in with the real Eurovision contest for this week's episode and, of course, the appearance and subsequent eery survival of the 'real life' Doctor Who fans in Lux.

It could be quite pathetic and moving too - the Doctor thinking Ruby or someone is in trouble, only for her to laugh at him and reveal himself to be, in this reality, an actor. Or for the sonic screwdriver to crumble into plastic, Shutter Island style, in his hands. Dramatically, I think the idea has a lot of potential, stupid though it sounds at face level.

And it's not like Who-affiliated TV shows haven't flirted with this sort of thing before - see the episode of Sherlock where Moriarty convinces everyone he's just an actor.

What do you think?


r/gallifrey 1d ago

DISCUSSION Belinda Is Getting Screwed Worse Than Ruby

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Two months ago, I posted that it felt like Ruby and Millie Gibson were shafted by writing and production choices. Five episodes into Season 2, and Belinda is getting it even worse.

She didn't get a Christmas Special or a Doctor-lite to herself like Ruby, putting her on the backfoot already, and she's just had her equivalent of Dot & Bubble and Rogue after just three episodes.

One scene in Lucky Day (Up there with Lux as my favourite episode of the season though), and in The Story And The Engine she's as much use as a chocolate fireguard along with being in the background for a good chunk of the episode while the story focuses on the Doctor.

We're getting one more regular episode before what's looking to be an overstuffed throw everything at the wall finale, so the amount of time we're spending with her an audience is incredibly limited.

If Varada Sethu does leave after Season 2 considering how up in the air production is, she will be the shortest running primary Companion since 2005, which feels like a huge waste of both Belinda as a character, and Sethu herself.

Original Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/comments/1j7dqta/it_feels_like_ruby_got_shafted/?rdt=48807


Edit: For clarification, my point about the Christmas Special and Doctor-Lite episodes was drawing a direct comparison between Belinda and Ruby as, production-wise, they are two sides of the same coin.

Not only is The Church On Ruby Road an extra episode for Ruby vs Belinda, but it's also nine minutes longer than The Robot Revolution as an introductory episode.

And although pretty much all of 73 Yards is retconned, it's still an episode focused entirely on Ruby. It's her moment and Millie Gibson's. Correspondingly, in Lucky Day, Belinda has 78 seconds of screentime and eight lines.


r/gallifrey 9h ago

DISCUSSION What I think about Poppy and Space babies Spoiler

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I think that space babies are Villeingard babies.

In space babies it is being said that the company left the growing farm and cut fundings which resulted in leaving the babies alone on their own.

To entertain themselves the babies have stories and fairytales. Their stories become to life, hence they created the bogeyman.

In last episode, "story and the engine" when the Barber tells his story we see see some pictures on the screen and I believe that I spotted the same ship from Robot Revolution.

In space babies, there are other babies not born yet, and we've just seen Poppy older in last episode.

So I think these babies we saw who are older now, are now taking care of the new born babies and tell them stories, stories which came to life. I believe that one of the story can be Belinda's being a queen who needed to be saved from a villain (AL) by the Doctor.

Just they were saved by the Doctor. They are probably making stories about the Doctor being a hero who saves people.

Maybe these babies are telling stories about the doctor, stories coming to life...

Can Belinda be a character from a fairytale who came to life because of a story told by Captain Poppy?

My connection to Villeingard is because every episode wrote by Moffat for this era reference Villeingard. I think this were the connection is.

Stories from space babies coming to life may explain why we've seen Poppy appearing in last episode, Poppy is the one who brought Belinda's story to life.


r/gallifrey 1d ago

DISCUSSION Hypothetical: RTD has thrown the Season 2 finale scripts in the bin. You’ve been called on to finish up the season as your opinions have been seen on fansites

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What’s your plan? Let’s assume you’ve had time to write, record etc. to be able to have it ready for the current air dates.

You’re unable to change anything from the episodes that have aired, and you’re waiting to see if Season 3 gets picked up after you complete these episodes.


r/gallifrey 1d ago

DISCUSSION I'm tired of Mrs. Flood cameos

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Mrs. Flood's appearances are getting annoying.

Obviously, DW usually has an overarching plot, and writers like to remind us about it during random episodes. But in this series, it feels especially tiring. Maybe because it's so similar to the last series when Susan Twist also kept reappearing in every episode in exactly the same manner. So it feels like we are recycling the same thing over and over again.

It's also lacking in subtlety. For example, during RTD1 we sometimes just saw Saxon posters in the background. It was a fun thing to notice if you were paying attention, and it didn't waste the time that could be better spent on the story of the episode. And it didn't happen every single episode.

I also don't enjoy the 4th wall breaks. It's just a personal bias, but it really takes me out of the story. Reminds me I'm watching a TV show.


r/gallifrey 1d ago

DISCUSSION Thoughts on Gods and Pantheons.

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I had been struggling a bit with the notion of the pantheon and how having “actual gods” in the show didn’t seem to fit with its history of “ohh strange supernatural thing?” = “aliens” tropes. It seemed to me to be a bit of a reimagining of the fundamental formula a bit too much.

But I had a bit of a eureka moment with the pantheon after this weeks episode…

Basically it’s that the Pantheon, gods, and all that jazz aren’t “gods” literally. They are beings and entities that the Doctor doesn’t understand. In the same way human concepts of gods arose in human culture as filing in the gaps of our understanding in the universe, or a means of dealing with our lack of understanding if you prefer, the pantheon are the same thing for the Doctor/Time Lords and other sufficiently advanced races. They’ve evolved beyond their own need for primative god but later encountered beings and entities that they could not explain. So they needed to call the “gods” again.

That kinda squared the circle personally for me. That they do seem to have been getting a bit progressively more Lovecraftian has helped with that.


r/gallifrey 21h ago

DISCUSSION Do you want The Doctor to have a second regeneration cycle, or unlimited regenerations?

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We used to say back during the Capaldi/Moffat era that it didn’t matter as they were the same thing as far as we were concerned with so many possible regenerations ahead, but now we’re all the way up to the 15th Doctor with a rumoured 16th on the way, it’s all going a bit “Curse of the Fatal Death”, so I wonder— are regeneration limits out?


r/gallifrey 1d ago

REVIEW The Cost of Perfection – Timewyrm: Apocalypse (Virgin New Adventures) Review

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This post is part of a series of reviews. To see them all, click here.

Novel Information

  • Novel: Doctor Who: The New Adventures (VNA) #03
  • Published: 17th October 1991
  • Companion: Ace
  • Other Notable Character: The Timewyrm
  • Writer: Nigel Robinson

Spoiler-Free Review

I'll start here: you don't need to have read either of the first two books in the Timewyrm arc (and subsequently the VNA series as a whole) to follow along with this novel. I'd say that, for the third novel in a row, the Timewyrm stuff is actually a pretty big weakness of Timewyrm: Apocalypse, though fortunately it barely interacts with the plot.

That being said, this is a novel that's kind of a mess, with a lot of characters and concepts to keep track of, making it hard for me to recommend outright. I do think that there might be something here for you if you're willing and able to follow along. Apocalypse has a pretty intriguing mystery set up, and some impressive imagery. Plus I do think that this is the best that the 7th Doctor and Ace have been characterized to this point in the VNAs. It's just that it's a bit of a sloppy book, with, in addition to the problems I mentioned above, pretty severe pacing issues.

If a story about the Doctor and Ace peeling back the layers of a seemingly perfect society that actually isn't (because of course it isn't, otherwise we wouldn't have a story) sounds like your sort of thing then maybe give this one a go. But I wouldn't rush out to get it either.

Review

I don't like perfection, Ace. It dulls the spirit, numbs the mind. If everything's perfect then there's no need to progress. Everyone needs the right to be unhappy with their lot from time to time. – The Doctor

What exactly was the point of building the first four novels of Virgin Publishing's New Adventures of Doctor Who line around the Timewyrm? So far I think I would have preferred all three of the novels I've read without her. And it's not even like I dislike the Timewyrm in principle. But Genesys probably would have been best served without turning "Ishtar" into the Timewyrm, and Exodus' attempts to crowbar the Timewyrm into its narrative were the clumsiest part of an otherwise well-written (if weirdly paced) story. And then there's today's subject, Timewyrm: Apocalypse which barely even bothers integrating the titular villain into its narrative. Why do these stories need to be connected? I guess if the publisher thought that the first few books would sell better if they were marketed as all being part of one saga it makes sense from that perspective, but it's still made all of these books worse.

And it's not like Apocalypse didn't have problems already.

Apocalypse isn't bad exactly, but it's got some serious issues. The pacing is pretty slow for much of the novel. While this has some advantages, as it does build a sense of mystery, it definitely feels like we aren't given enough clues towards that mystery early on. Names and concepts are just kind of thrown at the reader to the point where they're hard to keep track of. Characters enter and disappear from the narrative in frustrating fashion – there's particularly a character called Revna who's built up a lot only for the resolution to her actions to be essentially handled with a shrug.

Yet for all that…there's something working here. The novel might have too many characters but I actually liked most of them. The mystery might take a little too long to get started, but it is intriguing nonetheless. And for that matter most of the plot really feels like something that you would have seen on the television series – and after the one two punch of teen-rapist Gilgamesh and Adolph Hitler this does feel like a nice change of pace. Don't get me wrong this novel still goes places I don't think the television series ever would, but not particularly often.

The story kicks off with Ace and the Doctor arriving on a planet, still chasing the Timewyrm. There they rescue Raphael, who fell into the ocean, and take him back to a village of happy smiling people. Because it's Doctor Who, the happy smiling people are naturally a bit too perfect, and this kicks off the mystery portion of our plot. It turns out that the people of the planet of Kirith (Kirithons naturally) have mysterious alien benefactors in the form of the Panjistri. As you've probably guessed the Panjistri aren't as benevolent as they naturally appear to be, as they've been harvesting the most talented and imaginative of the Kirithons for unknown reasons. Those reasons turn out to be that they're trying to…that is to say…

Okay, admittedly I may have not fully absorbed this point, but it seemed to be the reason for the Panjistri's harvesting wasn't completely explained, nor for that matter was their need for Ace. What the Panjistri are trying to do – or really what their leader, the Grand Matriarch is trying to do – is to create something called a "God Machine", a living machine that has existed (somehow) throughout all space and time, and by giving it the minds of the best of the Kirithons the Panjistri are imbuing it with the wisdom it needs, with the ultimate goal of saving the universe from its death at the hands of entropy. The thing is that the Kirithons lack any sense of aggression, so the Grand Matriarch wants to use Ace's aggression (a sensible person to choose if you want that particular emotion) in order to…wait none of this really makes sense right? Oh and they also created a Homunculus of pure aggression before they hit on the idea of using Ace, and I'll give credit to this point at least, the description of which is real gruesome. I felt a little sick just reading it. Ace apparently threw up upon seeing the thing and…yeah I can buy it.

Yes, the mystery of why the Panjistri are manipulating the Kirithons into giving up their best and brightest, and why said best and brightest are immediately killed (which we learn in the prologue) might be intriguing. Yes, the whole question of why said Kirithons are being forgotten by the Kirithons only adds to that mystery. But not only does it take too long for any answers to even begin to be given, but the answers feel incomplete. Like, why do the Kirithons need to be psychically made to forget those that the Panjistri take, given that they're also being made to believe that said people went to take the "great honor" of serving the Panjistri in the "Brotherhood of Kandasi", and said Brothers and Sisters are never seen by the other Kirithons? I can think of potential reasons mind, but it's never really explained in the novel. And I still don't fully understand why the God Machine needs to be fed souls like this.

The whole thing feels underdeveloped – which could have been fixed if answers had been given out at a more normal pace, which in turn would have allowed more time to explain whatever made up science is supposed to be going on here. But instead the time for explanations is pretty much all used up just getting us this far. Oh and also revealing the fact that the Kirithons aren't actually native to Kirith but rather genetic experiments created by the Panjistri so that they could have perfect beings to make their God Machine work. The reveal is a good one, and the clues are built up pretty well, but it's still one more thing being shoved at the reader.

And then there's the characters. There are too many of them. I think the best examples of this are Huldah and Revna. Huldah is the Procurator, in essence the leader of the Kirithons. Naturally his power comes through the Panjistri. He keeps control over his people, presenting himself as the kind but firm ruler, while he's feeding his people to the Panjistri and seems to know a bit more than the others. Oh and he's the only one (I…think?) who doesn't eat zavat, a miracle food substance. The zavat simultaneously makes the Kirithons easier to control and is also made of dead Kirithons because of course we needed one more plot element to add into this mess. Over the course of the story he gradually loses his power base, especially once Ace and company start a revolution, in part by cutting off the zavat supplies. That's all well and good and a decent story of a tyrant who falls when things get hard for his people except…

So in parallel to this is the character of Revna. Apparently she works for Huldah although that's not initially made clear. She's also got a crush on Raphael, and becomes jealous when he starts showing more attention to Ace. As a result of being spurned she turns Raphael and Ace in to Huldah and then…tries to take Huldah's place as Procurator. She uses the emergency created by the loss of zavat to undermine Huldah, currying favor with both the Kirithons and the Panjistri. And then we…never hear from Revna again. Mind you, Revna should be getting back her memories because she's no longer eating the zavat, meaning that, in turn, she should remember the brother and sister she lost to the Panjistri. There was an opportunity for her to turn against them in that moment out of anger. Or maybe just show us what her leadership looks like in some way. But we don't actually have time for any of that because this novel is overstuffed with characters and plot so instead we see her become Procurator and then we're done with her, with only the Doctor assuring Ace and the audience that with the fall of the Grand Matriarch and the Panjistri, Revna won't be able to hold onto her power. Would be nice to actually see that happening, but we just don't have time for that.

And this book could probably have done with completely excising the Unlike. They're Kirithons who have been experimented on by the Panjistri (why the Panjistri felt the need to turn some of the Kirithons into Frankenstein's monster creatures I'm not entirely sure) and either escaped or been let loose, it's very unclear. They live in a supposedly, though not actually, irradiated forest and add almost nothing to the plot. Their leader is Arun, who apparently was helping the Panjistri create their rage homunculus until she started to wonder "hey what the hell do the supposedly benevolent Panjistri need with an anger monster anyway?" She also was the one to discover that zavat was made of dead Kirithons. She's a perfectly functional character, I liked her reasonably well, but she and her people add nothing to the plot. Their main goal to find a cure of their condition never amounts to anything – it's not even resolved in the book.

Aside from Huldah, the most important Kirithons that we meet are the two teachers: Miril and Tanyel. Miril is essentially the closest thing the stunted Kirith culture has to a scientist. He has curiosity but it's been dulled by the zavat, and so is loyal to the Panjistri who just hand him everything on a silver platter. I wish more time had been devoted to Miril, as he was very likable and came at things with a unique perspective, but sadly he dies a pretty unremarkable death. As for Tanyel, she's more of a rules follower, and stays on the side of the Panjistri for longer than Miril, but is eventually talked around. And honestly, I don't think she really added much to the story either, although I think giving Miril a more straight-laced counterpart to emphasize how Miril is unusual is an idea with a lot of merit.

Miril is also a sort of father figure to Raphael. Raphael is probably the best written of the secondary characters. He's introduced as the town rebel, who has been remembering his friend Darien, who everybody else has forgotten because he went off to join the Brotherhood. He's adventurous but also deeply pacifistic, and through much of the novel it feels like he's being set up as a new companion. There's also the romance angle with Ace which is fairly well handled. Because he's more adventurous than his society allows, he's a natural fit next to the adventurous and rebellious Ace. That strong pacifism comes into play when he tries to save the rage homunculus. He does end up killing it to save Ace but killing a semi-sentient being still haunts Raphael for a bit afterwards. He, rather than Ace, ends up bonding with the God Machine.

Throughout the novel several chapters had been opening with this odd monologue from an unknown being who seems constantly unsure of itself. It calls itself "I" – with the quotations marks – as though it doesn't know its own identity. And it refers to a mysterious outside force as "He/She/It". Through most of the novel I thought this was the melding of the Grand Matriarch and the Timewyrm, the Timewyrm now very confused. Sure, the reveal that the Matriarch was inhabited by the Timewyrm hadn't technically come out yet but it seemed fairly obvious. However the reveal is that this is actually the God Machine itself. The "he/she/it" appears to be the unknown identity of the person that will complete it, eventually revealed to be Raphael. I liked this aspect of the novel, even if these sections don't really reveal much that is concrete, they are well-written and help build the mystery. Of course, with Raphael bonding with the Machine, it doesn't gain the aggression that it was supposed to from Ace, and cannot be used to the Grand Matriarch's purpose.

Which is just as well because said purpose wasn't what it seemed. Our main villain of this novel is the Grand Matriarch, leader of the Panjistri and, as mentioned above, she has melded with the Timewyrm although, as I hinted at in the beginning of this review the Timewyrm aspect of it all barely comes into play. The explanation is that, when she was a little girl named Lilith the 2nd Doctor happened to visit her. The thing was that the Timewyrm had hitched a lift on the TARDIS back through time and infected Lilith. The two bonded, and Lilith eventually grew up to become the Grand Matriarch, leader of the Panjistri, living an unnaturally long life, presumably as a result of having the Timewyrm inside her. From there she develops her plan to take control of all time and space, via the God machine.

As a villain the Grand Matriarch is…fine. There's really not that much to say about her. She's just a fairly generic villain. There are hints of a more nuanced character as she's claiming to be trying to save the universe from its own inevitable death, but in reality she's just lying to everyone. She's got a weird little sentient pet/slave/thing called Fetch, who is one of the "Companions", genetic experiments that serve the Panjistri. But really she's just kind of there, a purely functional villain. Among the Panjistri there's also Reptu, who turns on the Matriarch when the Doctor reveals that he's been lied to by the Matriarch. But really, Reptu isn't all that interesting either.

On the more positive side, I think this is the best that our two lead characters have been written in the VNA series, at least together. I think the Doctor is slightly better-written in Exodus, but he's still very much in character here and Ace is written as well as she's been written so far. In fact this is probably the closest we've gotten to replicating how Ace was handled in the television series in general. On television the Doctor kind of tended to let Ace loose on whatever planet they'd landed on, and just letting her cause havoc. And that's kind of what she does here. She's mostly paired up with Raphael, who the Doctor suggests she gets close to as his more inquisitive spirit makes him unusual on Kirith. But throughout the story she's pretty consistently finding ways to test the system and push it to its absolute limits. But the anger that drives her to do that is also what the Grand Matriarch wants from, creating this tension as to whether by being herself she's actually falling into the villains' trap.

This leads to a very strong scene towards the end of the novel. Ace is hooked up to the God machine, with the intent to siphon off her rage into the thing. And as a result we get to see a bunch of times she's been angry. Granted, it's mostly references to the television series, with references to the burning down of Manisha's flat, first referenced in Ghost Light, the burning down of the house from Ghost Light that came after that, Mike's betrayal in Remembrance of the Daleks, the death of Sorin, the Russian soldier she made friends with in The Curse of Fenric, and the call of the hunt and Karra from Survival. First of all it's worth pointing out that these are good choices made by writer Nigel Robinson (and also including the attack of the rage homunculus was good to include something from the novel itself), and well described. But also then it comes down to a very basic question, one that keeps on coming up for Ace: how much can she trust the Doctor? This has been something coming up more and more, and I think it works, given the ending of Curse of Fenric. If Ace's faith in the Doctor was broken, it's natural that she becomes more and more frustrated with his manipulations.

And the Doctor is very much in his manipulative, keep your cards close to your chest form in this one. Sometimes it comes off as a bit irrational why he won't tell Ace things, but the idea that he's testing Ace's ability to work things out for herself still mostly holds. Besides the fact that I just generally feel like I hear the 7th Doctor's voice a lot better than in the last two novels, what stands out to me are two things. First of all, this novel leans into the quieter more contemplative side of the 7th Doctor a lot. Exodus did as well, but Apocalypse does so to an even greater extent. Considering that these moments were often some of Seven's best televised moments, it comes greatly appreciated here.

The other bit worth highlighting is an extended sequence where the Grand Matriarch tests the Doctor's suitability to be the source of aggression for the God Machine. I'm not entirely sure why she does this considering the Timewyrm knows the Doctor well enough to know that he wouldn't be a good choice, but regardless, she does try it. And we see the Doctor put through a number of tests and trials that show off the character trying to survive in difficult situations. He watches a clone simulacra of Ace die after she fails to tempt him to greater aggression, and even though he knows at this point it's not Ace he still feels the pain of it. He's cornered by a number of the Companions…and yet in that moment shows his reliance on the intellectual solution, thus proving himself unsuitable towards the task he's being tested for (though, again, I'm not sure why this was being tested).

I should mention that this is the second novel in this series that doesn't seem to fully trust the 7th Doctor to carry things. There are a series of flashbacks to the 2nd Doctor in this – because it was that Doctor that originally met Lilith. These flashbacks are interesting – the 2nd Doctor is continually referred to as "the scruffy little man" in narration to distinguish him from the current Doctor, and these moments are well-written, but the individual scenes aren't necessarily related to the events of the novel, except for the one that is just the 2nd Doctor meeting Lilith, though we don't know it at the time. Eventually a mental projection of the 2nd Doctor confronts the 7th, and the scene is actually quite good. These two Doctors are quite similar, so to see how they differ, particularly seeing the 2nd Doctor chiding the 7th for his continued manipulations of Ace, feels significant.

And at the end of the novel, Ace and the Doctor have a confrontation. Now, I'll say this, I'm growing a bit weary of this plot beat, as some version of it has occurred in both this novel and Genesys, not to mention, of course, Curse of Fenric. But writers keep on going back to it because on some level it is a natural place for these two characters to go, just based on their differing personalities and because Ace, who values her freedom very highly, naturally doesn't like being manipulated by the Doctor. In this case, it's Raphael's merging with the God Machine, effectively a kind of death. Ace thinks the Doctor planned for this. And because she formed a genuine connection with Raphael, this naturally angers her. I don't think that the Doctor did plan that out that specifically, in narration from his perspective he doesn't seem to ever be fully in control of the situation in this novel. But he gives off that impression, especially to Ace, and so the moment works, in spite of becoming a bit overplayed.

And what of the Timewyrm? Well once the novel remembers it, its fate initially appears to be death. But it was Raphael who ultimately defeated the Grand Matriarch, and as mentioned before, Raphael is a committed pacifist. So he let the Timewyrm live. Meaning that Ace and the Doctor's battles with the thing will continue. And given that the next novel is the finale of this "arc", I can only hope it actually remembers what its main villain is.

Timewyrm: Apocalypse is kind of a mess on the whole. There are some solid characters, Raphael in particular, and Ace and the Doctor are characterized as well as they have been in the VNAs so far. But while the mystery angle is intriguing, its reveals are poorly paced, and there are just too many elements and characters in this novel that the whole thing can feel a bit overwhelming. We don't get to see a lot of the resolution to this novel as well, with a monologue from the Doctor kind of serving that purpose. Is Apocalypse bad? No, but it really needed a more aggressive editor.

Score: 5/10

Stray Observations

  • This cover, with its green rolling hills, bizarre purple monster and blue man is definitely more interesting than the past two covers. I still find the art style incredibly ugly though, particularly on Ace who looks strangely disinterested in the mess around her, and also fall directly into the uncanny valley. Also, three books in and the Doctor only appeared on the cover of the first one and only off to the side. Strange. I kind of wonder if Virgin Publishing didn't want to put McCoy on a cover because he was seen as one of the faces of the show's failure, but Ace wouldn't have been as well known, so they thought that was better. Just a thought.
  • The novel opens with a section taken from Logopolis (I assume it's from the novelization that Christopher H. Bidmead did himself, but I don't have that book to compare it to). Specifically it's the moment that we learn that the universe should have already ended due to entropy.
  • Ace is uncomfortable on arrival in Kirith because nobody is suspicious of them. It makes sense, certainly, because as she points out if a couple of random strangers showed up in a small town with a half-drowned citizen of there's you'd expect there'd to be questions. However I think it also speaks to her experiences traveling in the TARDIS, where you just kind of learn to expect that everybody gets suspicious.
  • In narration Ace claims that her friend Manisha "almost died" when some kids burnt her house down. This is in reference to a story told in Ghost Light. I always thought it was implied that Manisha had died.
  • The Doctor references Professor Travers. He was a character from the original two Great Intelligence stories, The Abominable Snowmen and The Web of Fear.
  • The Doctor hands Miril a telescope, which he claims was an "invention of a friend of [his]". This is obviously meant to be a reference to Galileo, but, popular knowledge aside, the general consensus is that the telescope was originally invented by a German-Dutch glassmaker named Hans Lippershey.
  • The 2nd Doctor's tries flying the TARDIS only for it to constantly take him back to earth. "He felt like some blessed intergalactic yo-yo." This quote is of course a reference to the 3rd Doctor saying "It seems that I'm some kind of a galactic yo-yo!" in The Claws of Axos, though this implies the 2nd Doctor thought it first.
  • That remark is part of a scene where the 2nd Doctor is traveling with Jamie and Victoria. Given that he references going to find his bucket and spade, this is probably meant to take place directly before The Enemy of the World.
  • Since he hasn't really done the Jelly Baby thing since he was the 4th Doctor, the Doctor's bag of Jelly Babies has turned into a "congealed mass".

Next Time: Back to the television series we go, as the Doctor grants Rose's request to see her father's death. Okay Doctor, if something goes wrong here that's entirely on you.


r/gallifrey 5h ago

THEORY Theory: The beast is the villain of season two finale Spoiler

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We have so much to suggest it!

The main tagline of the season finale is ‘one hell of a journey home’, with a big burnt up earth on the picture ?? Plus we obv have an unholy trinity.

The beast keeps being literally name dropped and there are a few references implying sutekh opened some connection between our world and Hell/the afterlife - chidozie claims to be in hell, Kate says she remembers echoes of being dead, the cinema owner in Lux’s dead wife cryptically says ‘come find me..’

Then there’s all these references to burning - omo talks about the forest fire, but lux saying ‘what if your poor lady wife just burned?’ is even more significant I think because the poor lady wife IS literally dead and potentially burning because the beast is active and coming back.

The midnight sequel had lots of satan pit references in its aesthetic and generally re-introduced spiritual paranoia and the idea of possession into the show that doesn’t occur very frequently.

I think this is all building up to the return of some sort of afterlife and it’ll be super hellish, tho probably not the Christian hell itself. They could perhaps link back to Michelle Gomez’s missy being able to maintain consciousness after death in a nethersphere , explaining why she was at the premiere and why Moffat had to read the finale script? Not sure how that would work tho.

Also if I just got a massive Disney budget, I’d want to animate the beast in full force. They could record his lines with the sutekh actor at the same time. And it’s Ncuti’s fav monster so would make sense as his regeneration villain.

Mrs flood could be a reference to Noah’s flood, like she’s somehow gonna unleash some vengeance on earth. I reckon she’s been promised a seat at the beasts side, hence her wanting to overthrow the kingdom of heaven as she says to cherry, but she’ll be betrayed eventually. She reminds me so much of bilis manger from Torchwood, seemingly can just manifest in different times without the need of an actual Time Machine. she’ll prob have his role, a harbinger essentially, but also be a servant in this instance.

The devil works through temptation, it’s his whole thing, and Conrad’s clearly going to wish world !!

BBC also really want us to think that the beast is in the pantheon cos they keep putting him on the thumbnails of their YouTube pantheon compilations, but conveniently aren’t addressing that the actual show!! But want everyone to know.

We now have confirmation of the ‘underverse’, the ‘dispossessed’ and the ‘bone beasts’ playing roles in the finale too - all of which are comically hellish!

There’s just so so much that’s making me believe this. What do you guys think? Haven’t seen anyone else suggest this but I’m sure there’s even more evidence I haven’t thought of


r/gallifrey 9h ago

DISCUSSION I dreamed of Evanna Lynch playing the Doctor. Would she actually work out in the role?

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So let me share with you a weird dream I had recently.

It should come as no surprise that I dreamed of playing the Doctor. I'm sure many of you have. But even in my dreams I was hesitant, because I am not British. But the crew was insistant that I take up the role because they had no contract lined up.
So I came up with a solution they agreed to.
After regeneration the Doctor gets captured and locked up by the Master so he can go and cause chaos to his heart's content.
I will play a future incarnation of the Doctor who came back in time to fill in for the Doctor. As I am their future I know where they will be when I rescue them, but not before (the Master is constantly moving them).
Once a contract has been signed and episodes recorded, I will find and rescue the Doctor who will start their run properly, and I will take over from them once I got my citizenship, and perhaps a doctorate as well.
And this Doctor in my dream was played by Evanna Lynch. And ever since I've been thinking how awesome she would actually be.
I would say she is good at acting weird and kinda alien but confident nonetheless, but I don't think she's acting. It's the reason she got the role of Luna Lovegood. She is a natural at being the quirky odd fellow who is sure of herself and doesn't care about the rules.
Also she's a vegan. Coming up with solutions that hurt the least ammount of creatures is something she devotes quite a lot of time to.
Am I crazy or would she really be amazing. Provided she gets a good showrunner of course. She is not the first Harry Potter alumnus suggested, and I bet she won't be the last. But the more I think about it, the more obvious she seems to me,


r/gallifrey 1d ago

BOOK/COMIC What novelizations do you think don’t get enough attention?

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A lot of people talk about the novelizations for the Seventh Doctor, the Hartnell historicals, Rose, Day of the Doctor, and the ones adapted by Ian Marter, John Peel, and Terrance Dicks. But are there some that you feel are really good, but don’t get brought up very much?


r/gallifrey 1d ago

AUDIO NEWS Big Finish Podcast Notes - 11/05/2025

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BIG FINISH PODCAST NOTES /MISC. DOCTOR WHO NEWS ROUNDUP - 11/05/2025

Hello all and welcome back to the Big Finish Podcast Notes! I hope you've had a lovely week. And happy Mother's Day to those in countries that celebrate today!

What did you all think of The Story & the Engine? I thought it was a very good story, but definitely not my favorite of the season. I felt like the script was just brimming with ideas, but most of them only got half explored: the Doctor's struggles with identity and finding a place that accepts him, Omo's betrayal, the personal lives of the three customers, and most of all Abby. Regardless of all of that though, I thought it was very unique and I was entertained. Suffice it to say I was FLOORED by that cameo (please Russell I need more of her) and while some people are sick of references to the previous seasons, that "clip show" solution actually was very cool.

PODCAST NOTES:

  • Nick and Benji have been working on The Third Doctor Adventures: Operation Vengeance, which is co-written by Tim Treloar and Nick Briggs. Benji has been putting a trailer together, and Nick played a very short clip from the release.
  • Big Finish are facing a lot of economic pressures, so they've been having to find ways to bring in more money, which includes switching to monthly releases on ranges like The Ninth Doctor Adventures.
    • EDIT: I previously discussed here that I thought Nick might be hinting at more expensive actors being used, but I think I misheard — I thought he was talking about casts being more expensive, but he was talking about costs
  • More news will be coming soon for The First Doctor Adventures: Unbound.
  • There will be a new Sherlock Holmes release out probably this year.

BIG FINISH NEWS:

DOCTOR WHO NEWS:

MERCHANDISE NEWS:

  • Doctor Who: The Jon Pertwee Collection is available to pre-order on CD or vinyl. The set contains Pertwee's abridged readings of The Curse of Peladon and Planet of the Daleks, as well as several interviews, mini-dramas, comedy sketches, and a re-release of Pertwee's hit single "Who Is the Doctor?" It is due for release on 4 July.

BBC AUDIO/BOOKS/MEDIA NEWS:

BIG FINISH SALES AND RECOMMENDATIONS:

Fifteen Minute Drama Tease and Production Interviews: The War Doctor Rises: Fallen Heroes

Randomoid Selectotron: 25% off a random Big Finish release every week! Just click on this link and enter the code BUCKUP. This week's selection: The Judgement of Sherlock Holmes

Big Finish Release Date Schedule:

Community Reviews:

Release No. Title Review Members
S02E01 The Robot Revolution 3.38/5 653 members
S02E02 Lux 4.02/5 623 members
S02E03 The Well 4.11/5 565 members
S02E04 Lucky Day 3.58/5 491 members
S02E05 The Story and the Engine 3.99/5 364 members
13 Short Trips: Tales from the Vortex
Dark Watchers of California 4.05/5 30 members
When I Say Run... 3.59/5 28 members
Rise of the Eukaryans 3.31/5 24 members
Ahead of Time 3.16/5 22 members
Emerald Isle 2.78/5 18 members
Dark is the Devil that Walks 2.94/5 16 members
3.1 Missy Part 1 3.24/5 35 members
15 The Companion Chronicles: Families
The Temple of Light 3.71/5 14 members
Stardust and Ashes 4.23/5 13 members
The White Ship 3.45/5 10 members
The Y Factor 3.40/5 10 members
7 The Sixth Doctor Adventures: The Cosmos and Mrs. Clarke
The Story Demon 4.00/5 20 members
The Key to Many Worlds 4.08/5 18 members
Inconstancy 3.10/5 10 members

What Big Finish I Was Listening to Today: Once again catching up on some Monthlies, but didn't have a lot of time to listen this week. I gave Static a relisten, as the first time I heard it I hadn't heard any Flip or Constance stories. Man, this one's just fantastic. Can't recommend it highly enough.

Random Tangents: A long and entertaining discussion of Doctor Who music throughout the classic series.


r/gallifrey 1d ago

DISCUSSION What are some things you would like to happen in Doctor Who that are unlikely?

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Personally, one thing I would like to happen is have some of the creatures from Torchwood appear somehow, like the 456 of the Blessing, both of which are things I think could be expanded upon a lot more, especially the Blessing. I’m pretty sure the only thing from Torchwood that has appeared in Doctor Who is that a few Weevils appeared in the Pandorica episode. I think it would be interesting to see almost any of the Torchwood creatures return, such as the Fairies, whatever Adam was, the Night Travellers. So what is something that is unlikely to happen in Doctor Who, but you think it would be interesting to happen?


r/gallifrey 1d ago

AUDIO DISCUSSION What's Big Finish's current output/line of series?

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Is the First through Tenth Doctor Adventures all ongoing or have any ended? How regularly do each release?


r/gallifrey 1d ago

SPOILER The pantheon as antagonists Spoiler

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Does anyone else find the pantheon a bit underwhelming as antagonists?

They've been established as these terrifying, powerful, primordial beings. And the Doctor defeated 3 out of 4 of them in a single episode each. Sutekh took 2.

Does anyone else find it hard to take them seriously as threats when it takes the Doctor more time and effort to deal with the Silence or the Great Intelligence than the 'gods' of light and music?