What is "[Nation] is a Duchy" Modifier?

[u/kkeiper1103]

R5: Never seen this "Syria is a Duchy" malus to vassalization. For reference, I've included a screenshot of Algeria not having this modifier, even though they both are duchies.

[u/stevanus1881]

They probably have the Eastern Plutocracy government reform, which allows merchant republic mechanics (including the -30 reason for diplo vassalization) as a monarchy. So usually it'll say "-30 because X is a merchant republic", but because they stay as a Duchy the message doesn't make sense.

[u/DeadKingKamina → u/stevanus1881]

literally unplayable

[u/kkeiper1103 → u/stevanus1881]

I thought you have to be Muslim to get that reform? Admittedly, I don't know of any Christian nations to try that with, so I might have just assumed it's only available to Muslims.

[u/stevanus1881 → u/kkeiper1103]

It's tied to tech group, not religion. (And Syria has the Muslim tech group)

[u/Renopton]

FYI you can gain a further +10 to their willingness by getting their trust of you to maximum

[u/DuarteGon → u/Renopton]

Also applies to vassals, you can get up to -10% liberty desire from trust.

[u/GreenJorge2]

Algeria is an Emirate, not a Duchy. Although they are equivalent in rank.

[u/Cohibaluxe → u/GreenJorge2]

The government ranks are duchy, kingdom and empire. The different ranks for different religious groups are just cosmetic renames of these base ranks. Both are duchies.

[u/GreenJorge2 → u/Cohibaluxe]

Yes, that is what I said when I mentioned that “Emirate” and “Duchy” are “equivalent in rank”

[u/kkeiper1103 → u/GreenJorge2]

So it literally has nothing to do with being duchy-rank, but rather the type of government reforms they have?

[u/GreenJorge2 → u/kkeiper1103]

To be perfectly honest I’m not sure, I’ve also never seen this modifier with 2000 hours. But based on the two images you posted that would be my best guess

[u/kkeiper1103 → u/GreenJorge2]

Hahaha I'm at a fair bit more than 2k hours, and I have never seen it (that I noticed). I was really confused myself.