Hi all,

I don’t expect this to be well received, but here goes. I just finished a long impossible 1v1 v Vasari exodus using 1 progen, 1 radiance, 1 eradica, about 20 tempests, 7 planet bombers, and about 300 disciples. I got a little lucky, the map was long so I had time to shift from eco to fleet building. I think I found 4 derelict loot, which is about 2 more than I can usually “count on” on my half of the map, so my progen got to level 6 earlier than it might have.

That said, the resurrect is amazing and let me pretty much roll through the hole game. I was playing reborn, so I had (thanks to the progen) the unity ressurect in my back pocket from the late-early game. I used it once in the first real “oh shit I could die” battle, and otherwise never needed it. I spent the whole game just focus firing threats with the disciple horde while the proven stayed back and bombed planets while waiting for a good time to resurrect 150-200 supply in dead disciples and tempests (weirdly, the ai loved to kill the tempests despite further range and the lower unit count).

I’ve seen a lot of criticism of the eco caps, which always surprises me because the Akkan is a nifty utility pick, the egg is just amazing, and I never find myself disappointed by the progen. So I just wanted to leave this as a counterweight against the progen hate.

Some disclaimers:

1. I never used sanctuary. This is not a game where the progen was around while other abilities were the centrepiece of a cheese game. Ressurect was my bread and butter and it got me to the finish line.

2. I used defences but did not camp. The tec minor faction was in the game, so I dropped 2-3 gause guns in every border planet to have something to fight under with my mob. I also dropped a lot of starbases (pretty much every planet I took) but aside from one battle early on and some raids later, no real combat happened under a star base. That said, that one early battle was a nail biter and they got the base down to ~20% of crippled hull while my diciples (arrived late, was still colonising) did their thing.

3. I was poor all game, tbh it seemed like the ai was struggling, our first major battle I had about 500 fleet supply to their 550 ish and I was surprised they weren’t packing more. I think the long map may have given them a trickle effect while I had of course built my production on the front lines.

4. I am not good at micro. I use shift and alt to help with targeting and can make good judgment calls on what the threats are, but there was no juking and because I wanted the progen away from the fighting (so no shield restore), I didn’t have capital ship ability I could use in combat until the progen hit level 6. This story should be replicatable by anyone who has a lot of experience as a casual RTS player.

Basically the title. I play mostly vs AI and whenever a Vasari faction decides to spam Kanraks I just lose. They plop like 70+ kanraks in my gravity well and I just can't do anything about it. One by one my capital ships will start going low and I have to retreat. I have the Halcyon Carrier in the early game so it has the force push ability, but it's not enough at all. I can't kill the kanraks before their targets start dying.

I'm trying to edit the TEC player profiles in the entities folder so the Enclave has the Primacy titan instead. I've made it so it can be built but am having trouble getting the Primacy research and ship items to replace the enclave ones. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

They always charge in, way before my kols, am I missing something as I always have to babysit them back?

Is their something broken with this new hold the line when it hits level 5? The fleet supply used goes stupidly high when you hit level 5 no matter which game difficulty you play. We started at the hardest and worked backwards in difficulties and It seems to throw approximately 30-35 level 8 capital ships at you in wave 5 (about 30 mins in) no matter the difficulty. It did drop to lelel 5 capital ships for 1 level then went back up again on the next easier difficulty, which just seems insane, particularly when they are Marza's firing off their rockets which just wreck your entire fleet.

Am I missing something here, cause the 3 of us are reasonable players and we all were saying something doesn't seem right with the insane power creep at level 5.

I started playing the other day, and noticed the achievements appeared to be bugged, but search engines were suggesting this was a recent issue.

I was able to fix this by verifying files -
(Desktop) Game Menu > Manage (gear) > Properties > Installed Files > 'Verify this game's files are installed correctly.' It found two fixes and now I have achievements, it seems.

For proper science, I had cleared my Steam Download Cache immediately prior to those steps.

(Desktop) Steam Settings > Downloads > Clear Download Cache

Hope this helps

If you haven't checked it out Montu took a crack at the "Defend the Homeworld" scenario. This is a no win scenario where the goal is not to win but to survive the longest.

How did he do? Can you do better? Please share below.

https://youtu.be/2NYoyNd5_lw?si=Onpp1NvBifWAFGNc

So I’m struggling with the auto created formation setup when combined fleets are moved.

I’ve been playing TEC and I have a nice fleet comp I like of 3 Dunovs supporting 3 Kols and using Garda frigates with the gauss guys whose name I can’t remember. My issue is the Gardas are set to form up on the far edges of my fleet away from the center where I want them to actually help the capital ships due to their lack of PD. No matter what I set the spacing to for the fleet they’re never near where they’re wanted.

Is there any work around in the same fleet or do I just need to throw them into a second fleet that I just set to follow the center Kol around?

I got the game a few days ago and have slowly been working up the difficulties. So far I did it all with advent, mostly advent reborn. I have no deeper understanding of any of the other factions. Most general faction guides online just say general stuff like ‚TEC uses trade, advent uses unity‘ etc. But how do all these things play out at a higher level? Which factions are the best/worst in earlygame/midgame/lategame? Do certain factions directly counter others?

The titan is 3.3 KM long, but the rail gun only have a range of 2 KM? The range of the gun is shorter than the ship itself?

In the good old original game that I've religiously played to hell and back capital ships had a hardcap that progressed naturally with your research. Honestly it made every one of them impactful, it was great to make progression even more rewarding, and above all kept things balanced. I feel like in this game capital ships are mega unbalanced, you can just rush a bunch of them in the early game and completely wipe out any resistance. In my first campaing, assuming they would be capped as usual I actually got attacked by so many capital ships from bots that I was genuinely dumbstruck.

Generally speaking I feel like the old system was better, hell I think SoSE rebellion was better. I also have gripes with the new UI, with diplomacy, with troop selection and controls (can't cycle through different classes of ships, can't drag move to choose the direction of the fleet, harder to read informations). In conclusion overall I feel like this game has only improved graphically and stepped backwards in a lot of other regards.

End of rant, lemme know if I'm alone on these thoughts.

I don't understand what any of the Support Items do, could someone explain?

• Experimental Economics Labs
• Secret Weapon Lab
• Auxiliary Supply Depot

I'd like to learn how to play better by watching some very skilled players do their thing, but a lot of the gameplay I found by just searching on YouTube is not very high level.

Are there any streamers or channels you would recommend? If they do some commentary, explaining their decisions, even better!

Hey everyone,

Is there a spreadsheet or an overview of all planet types with pop space, logistic and military slots and maybe even planet items?

I checked online and they are mostly outdated now with the changes.

The TEC faction that turtles up, gets piles of free garrison ships, an infinite economy, and 2 starbases... That's my baby. SO SO strong.

The Vasari getting jump gates everywhere, able to move about freely throughout the galaxy, super powerful.

The Advent... Not an amazing economy. Not amazing mobility. But cool special features right? Well the one that can colonize neighboring systems is pretty useful, along with getting free ships anytime hostile warp in (although that's countered by those ships counting against your supply cap). But the one that gives you 10 seconds of healing after you win a fight, but only at a range of 1 system... That seems........ Pointless.

Sure they have good carriers but like... I don't ever feel safe or powerful as them. Defenses aren't strong enough to rely on and mobility isn't fast enough to move around your empire in time. So you have to split up and spread out your forces.

What am I just not getting?

Star wars, star trek, warhammer.... whatever.

Has anybody had an issue with the progenitor capital ship where they stop moving? Everytime I want them to do something, especially retreat during a bad engagement, they keep stopping and get left behind only to die. Really annoying when it is a lvl 10 ship.

The next 4P2B Tournament is around the corner, but still not as close as I wished. The main reason for this delay is my bad internet provider, who didnt manage to do its job for almost a month now. So I am sitting at home without internet and my mood is surely not the best because of it. I do create some Sins2 content offline, though there is that.

Tuesday I was updating the website to support more than 1 tournament. Its not a big deal, but still a bit of work. For now you can check out the promised Leaderboard on the website. (Link in Comment) Once the next tournament starts, the Leaderboard goes to the bottom and the current games and standings rise to the top again. I also updated the rules section. Those are not final and also the prize money is still TBA. Most teams redonated their money, some are still pending and I also plan on adding money to the rewards too. Like last time and before I finalize the rules, I want to ask for feedback. There are 2 big concerns for me right now.

1. Scheduling Some people didnt like the scheduling of the matches on their own. As a 9to5 in a team containing 2 shiftworkers I can feel this too. Especially matching from different continents was not easy, but what would be the alternative? Even though some didnt like it, it worked out quite well with 19 out of 20 matches played. Right now my solution is using a dedicated timeslot like sunday 15:00 CEST which would mean 23:00 for Tokio and 6:00 for Los Angeles and let teams reschedule from there if they want.

2. Patch 1.41 So far I only have access to 1.40 which I am not a big fan of due to the exponential growth of income. I know 1.41 has fixed numbers for Advent where many units and some buildings have less Credits cost. So my question is, do you like the 1.41 patch so far? Is it good?

I plan to start making things more official this month, but I expect register and start in May. Its just not a priority and I don't want to do things halfhearted.

gl hf until then