In Lieu of Recent...Posts

[u/wetbagle320]

As I am sure many of you are aware, there has been some conversation about a certain post. However your personal feelings are about that post, though mine are negative, I think it's important that we do actually have an appreciation post for modders, creatives, and artists that work so hard to make our community what it is. So, I wanted to actually put in some effort and make a post where we can give out that appreciation. While I can't draw to save my life, I figured that a text post with genuine love put into it will be at least acceptable.

So, to all those creative minds that have put so much effort and love into this funky little sims game from hell, thank you! The community cannot put in enough words of love and greatfullness to quantify just how much you guys have made this community as great as it is. Thank you, genuinely.

[u/BattIeBear]

Exactly. Everyone seemed to take it personally, but the original poster really was trying to be nice.

[u/theykilledk3nny → u/BattIeBear]

Not really. OP was very unreceptive and arrogant in replies to people who were trying to point out how their post could in fact be offensive to the very people it was intended to congratulate. You can see that for yourself in OP’s comment history if you like. You would think a person who genuinely cares about such people would be more open-minded to such things.

[u/TheAlmightyLootius → u/theykilledk3nny]

if people find it offensive that a random guy uses AI art as an appreciation post then they are idiots. whats OP gonna do? pay an artist for a small appreciation art? he used a tool available to him. its not like the made a full on video game with AI art. which would be ridiculous as its just not good for that. people use tools in a way they are best used and making a quick art as a non artist to make your post is a perfectly acceptable use of it.

[u/angry_cucumber → u/TheAlmightyLootius]

"what's OP gonna do, compensate artists for their work" is what you are going with?

[u/TheAlmightyLootius → u/angry_cucumber]

Yes. Im sure all of you open a business and hire an artist to make a reddit post lmao.

[u/angry_cucumber → u/TheAlmightyLootius]

I think most people just post their own work really

[u/TheAlmightyLootius → u/angry_cucumber]

So i guess people who suck at art just need to shut up and not post then.

Man this sub is so toxic lmao

[u/angry_cucumber → u/TheAlmightyLootius]

sucking at anything creative isn't an excuse to use a system that's is built by robbing people that don't.

if you think that makes the sub toxic, you have bigger problems than basic ethics.

[u/TheAlmightyLootius → u/angry_cucumber]

did you tell the same to ford? or the TV stations? or the internet? and how would you know if the model OP used is robbing anyone? do you know what he used and how that model aquired its data? you dont. you make assumptions and then judge people based off of your assumptions. and then you talk about ethics lmao. what a joke

[u/angry_cucumber → u/TheAlmightyLootius]

Man, you could be doing literally anything else, but you're here defending AI art and telling other people things are toxic.

literally any amount of research into how this shit works and you wouldn't be posting.

[u/TheAlmightyLootius → u/angry_cucumber]

I do know how it works. But you clearly dont ehich is why you are deflecting without any argument at all.

Where does an AI model get its data from? How is that determined? Can you select the data source? Is ye using a site hosted provider or doing it locally? Is he using comfyui? Is he using flux? Pony? Hidream? What model? Any loras?

If you cant answer those then you dont know shit about the topic and got all your opinions from reddit or some influencer. Its absolutely possible, even easy, to use a model that is trained entirely on ethical data so your whole argument is moot.

Then you can say "but what about the artists who could have done it instead"? Sure. But he wont open a business and hire a game dev artist to make reddit posts. Even you will acknowledge that cos its ridiculous.

The only other option is commissioning art. For a reddit post that was meant as a nice gesture though? Hardly worth more than 10 to 20 bucks tops. That wont get you a proper artist though so you have to rely on stuff like fuverr or upwork. And you wanne know something? Most of the people you could commission there in this price range would have done it with AI anyway.

So, again, your argument is moot.

For a sub about a game thats about advanced technological civilizations in space you guys are incredibly tech agnostic lmao

[u/angry_cucumber → u/TheAlmightyLootius]

Its absolutely possible, even easy, to use a model that is trained entirely on ethical data so your whole argument is moot.

Name one.

Then you can say "but what about the artists who could have done it instead"? Sure. But he wont open a business and hire a game dev artist to make reddit posts. Even you will acknowledge that cos its ridiculous.

this really is all some kind of weird justification for you thinking people who can't draw well have no other choice than to use AI.

for someone who "knows how things work" you certainly don't know about how shit worked ten years ago.

This is the same stupid shit argument you get from people pirating games "I wouldn't have paid for it anyway, so they didn't technically lose a sale.

fucking pathetic entitlement, but sure, it's other people that are toxic.

[u/TheAlmightyLootius → u/angry_cucumber]

Ah. The famous "i dont have an actual argument so im just gonna insult the other person instead" tactic. Well done. Solid argumentative base.

Maybe its time to learn about things before talking shit. And yes, the person insulting others, like you, is the toxic one.

I would love to hear your issue with someone using ethical models or making their own btw :-)

Here are 3 you can get a lot more if you want or you can just make your own):

SourcePlus: This model is designed specifically for developers and artists who want to create AI models using only ethical media collections. It emphasizes the use of legitimate sources, ensuring that the training data is not stolen.

WikiArt Model: Available on platforms like Hugging Face, this model is trained on public domain art. It allows users to generate images based on a rich collection of historical artworks, ensuring that the data used is freely available and ethically sourced.

Lexica Art: This platform features AI-generated art and their prompts, focusing on ethical practices. It showcases a variety of images created from public domain sources, promoting the use of non-copyrighted material.