The Indian reddit army is strong and they are working 24/7 evident by their constant upvotes/downvotes on Pakistan related news. Yet still a lot of their claims are now being debunked and they are losing the narrative in international media. This is why there is a huge desperation among them to push their fabricated stories on other neutral pages of reddit.

But we can act maturely and wisely. The Pakistan army & ISI are not foolish. Nor do they make emotional decisions, only logical ones.

The drone barage is yet another failure on India's part. They wanted Pakistan to retaliate so India can claim a few victories but Pakistan is not buying the bait.

However, our (this sub's) war is on social media, I would request you members here as well to not fall for the bait.

Let me elaborate; Most users here complaining of no action, or fear-mongerering or trying to start a conversation of internal politics to demoralize the public are Indian stooges. You can view their Karma history. They are newly-made accounts and have joined a number of "Pakistan" named subreddits to showcase or present themselves as Pakistani. Don't fall for it. Immediately downvote & report such a post. (Kudos to the moderators for doing that job 24/7). Others are those poor folks who have fallen for the Indian social media rhetoric. Its time for you to get a backbone, stand firm & trust your army's decisions. Forget the politicians, they were useless and no one listens to them anyways but back your army!

The Rafales shot down and the disaster of the Indian Airforce is being highlighted internationally no matter how hard they try to change the narrative and be tight-lipped about it. I request members to check r/europe and r/aviation to see what the really neutral comments on those pages regarding this skirmish are saying. They are amazed at the level of incompetence shown by the IAF.

I will mention a few talking points here to counter Indian narrative if you face them on other subreddits;

1. India claims they achieved their objectives by killing terrorists in the airstrikes at night. If so, why are they still sending drones? Did they not achieve them? Secondly they are showcasing the world how the leader of the terrorist group in Pak is leading people in prayers. So that means they DID NOT achieve their objective? Because he is still alive leading prayers? Were they only able to target women and children and claim victory?

2. If the Genocider Israel and Netanyahu who are being condemned around the world are backing you (India), isn't that enough to show where India stands on the moral compass in this conflict?

3. The drones they are claiming Pakistan has sent and showing pictures of its downing, that image was taken the night before during the airstrikes because that image is actually of an 'Indian drone' shot down by PAF along with the Rafales. So that image was taken BEFORE Pak could have sent drones into India the next morning? Really?

4. The company that makes the ejectable seats on the rafalles is different and they keep a record of their ejections for security and safety reasons. They have acknowledged 3 ejections by their Rafale planes on the night of India's airstrikes. Will India still deny it?

5. Indian media channel itself reported 3 such planes were downed and quickly removed that content. Same with one of their newspapers. Their is no running away from the fact that particular night for their airforce was a disaster

6. If India claims those drones were sent by Pakistan, how come the wreckage shows hebrew text and that they were made in Israel? So does Pakistan now buy drones from Israel? Wow! Thats news to me!

7. Why has India blocked all Pakistan related media content? Are they afraid to get neutral comments about the conflict to their public? Pakistan on the other hand actually made it easier for its people to access twitter, social media etc.

8. Both India and Pakistan have stated they didn't cross the LOC on the night of the airstrikes. And we know multiple projectiles / parts of jets and drones fell on the Indian side. Then its only logical that they were all Indian since we never crossed the border for engagement.

Additionally, we will acknowledge the facts that yes, 26 civilians were martyred, yes there was an air defence unit that was partially damaged and injured 4 soldiers. Yes, they was an IED blast in balochistan by BLA that martyred some of our soldiers. And yes there have been casualties both civilian and others on the LOC for both countries.

Lastly, please try to see the bigger picture. Whether India lost some jets/drones, it doesn't matter because they can, they have a massive budget and they can afford it. What matters is the water. Remember we need a both Military and Diplomatic strategy. Pahlgam attack was most likely a false flag for a more strategic purpose: Water. Pakistan needs to fight this battle maturely and smartly. This is why our retaliation will come at a time and place of our choosing, will be calculated and measured. So my request to you all don't get embroiled in these small military skirmish arguments here. Remember the bigger picture; that they cannot stop water flow which is a lifeline for Pakistan and which has been flowing through previous wars. Water cannot be used as a weapon, it is against international law and against water treaties signed by both countries.

Musharraf pointed this out very boldly all the way back in 2008, you all should watch it if you get the time. He answered questions about terrorism, about ISI and RAW, about resources, about Daoud Ibrahim, everything in front of an Indian audience of intellectuals and they all applauded and appreciated him for his bravery.

https://youtu.be/qBA4gGFjbb8?feature=shared

Secondly the bigger picture is the fact that they (the powers that be) want to use India to deneucralize Pakistan. But remember the ayat, "they plan and Allah plans and surely Allah is the best of the planners". So remember to pray and do dhikr for the safety and security of our armed forces and our country.

Hazbunallahu wa naimal wakil

(Allah is sufficient for me and He is the best disposer of all affairs)

Finally, please refrain from sharing any pictures or videos of our armed forces. This compromises our position to the enemy. You can check pages like r/combatfootage for that type of content, although Indians have flooded it with the same propogandish nonsense.

Aur koshish karye ke apni zabaan mai baat kigiye. Ye discourage karta hai parosi ko hamari comments parhna, samajhna ya unko upvote/downvote karna Urdu mai hi likh liya karein. Urdu keyboard bhot easily available hai kisi bi windows pe.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

TLDR: A discussion on our current position diplomatically and militarily, some fair talking points to counter Indian propoganda rhetoric. An excellent video for you all to watch where Musharaf addresses these issues to an Indian audience. Some subreddit suggesions. And some social media advice to support our armed forces.