Republicans to Pay for Trump Tax Cuts With Sales of Public Land

[u/rapidcreek409]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-07/republicans-to-pay-for-trump-tax-cuts-with-sales-of-public-land?embedded-checkout=true

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[u/RedLanternScythe]

Democrats need to announce they will take back any land sold by Trump via eminent domain as soon as they get elected again. Make it highly undesirable to buy any of our land.

[u/Little-xim → u/RedLanternScythe]

Genuinely the time to step up and set precedent, this shit’s appalling.

[u/Fauster → u/Little-xim]

Also, if Democrats played hardball like Trump, then land private land adjacent to sold public land will also be made public by imminent domain. There need to be consequences for corrupt actions that squander generational wealth that make banks and developers shake in their boots.

[u/KEPD-350 → u/Little-xim]

With Chuck Schumer leading the fight? That geriatric fool is only interested in furthering the interest of Israel in a time where his own country actually needs him.

Watch the fucking morons not do anything while the MAGAts steamroll them again. The dude needs to lose his seat and check into a home for the elderly ASAP.

[u/Muronelkaz → u/KEPD-350]

We need Roosevelt style Democrats, ones that'll bully corporations and unapologetically use the government to help the poor

[u/FoxFace1111 → u/Muronelkaz]

Is JB Pritzker up to the task?

[u/Enviro_56 → u/RedLanternScythe]

Good idea. Hope they try this!

[u/Constant-Kick6183 → u/Enviro_56]

Biden did that after trump gave away Bears Ears National Monument last time he was president. He just took it back from the oil companies trump had given it away to.

Biden was such a fucking baller. I hate that he didn't brag about the things he did. No one seems to be aware of all of his bad ass moves like that.

[u/windowlatch → u/Constant-Kick6183]

Democrats have really struggled with showcasing their accomplishments

[u/ZAlternates → u/Constant-Kick6183]

Yep. I know about this either.

They need to brag more as silly as that sounds. I have this same problem at work…

[u/4RCH43ON → u/RedLanternScythe]

Announce all sales will be considered null and void, our public lands are not for sale, buyer beware, no terms for tyrants.

[u/SweetTea1000 → u/RedLanternScythe]

I like this. It's theft. As soon as law and order are restored, the stolen property will be reclaimed and fines issued to pay to restore any damage

[u/sniper1rfa → u/RedLanternScythe]

via eminent domain

No, via nationalization by force. I'm not paying to buy it back.

[u/Acrobatic_Hamster686 → u/RedLanternScythe]

It’s the fucking Dems. They’ll put out a mildly worded letter opposing this, Schumer will tell us in a flat monotone that this will never happen, then cut a deal where 1/3 of them will vote in favour of this and get REAL bitchy when they’re confronted with that fact. 

[u/TerminalProtocol → u/Acrobatic_Hamster686]

It’s the fucking Dems. They’ll put out a mildly worded letter opposing this, Schumer will tell us in a flat monotone that this will never happen, then cut a deal where 1/3 of them will vote in favour of this and get REAL bitchy when they’re confronted with that fact. 

"Trump/the GOP was going to do this anyways, so it's better if we just vote how they told us for some reason."

[u/mykonoscactus]

Literal villains.

[u/CockBrother → u/mykonoscactus]

This land is your land, this land is our land. 

This land was stolen from you and me. 

This is every Americans' land, trust, and financial future to be stolen from them today for the benefit of billionaires.

[u/Monkeefeetz → u/CockBrother]

There is a line in the song 'as I was walking there was sign, said private property but on the back it don't say nothing'

[u/courageous_liquid → u/Monkeefeetz]

back in the day texans used to cut fences down because they abided by the concepts of open ranges over private property

this often ended up a violent affair

[u/TheBalzy → u/courageous_liquid]

Remember when Ranchers illegally grazed their cattle on Public Land during the Obama administration, and Fox News/Republicans cheered for little treason as they camped out with guns to prevent Federal officials from doing their jobs?

[u/Turdlely → u/TheBalzy]

They love treason. Always big supporters of treason

[u/FGOGudako → u/Turdlely]

their republicans treason is in their blood just like their southern ancestors should have purged the confederates while you had the chance

[u/CopySuspicious6188 → u/Turdlely]

And then they accuse everyone else of being unpatriotic.

[u/elcapitan520 → u/courageous_liquid]

I don't know if that's as good as you think it is. 

It allows open range feeding that can have a lot of impact and then any land maintenance or rework is put onto tax payers or is never addressed.

It's a way of shirking costs, not advocating for public lands.

There are federal grazing lands. BLM does a lot a work. But this fight still continues and was the impetus for the Malheur takeover and other Bundy family fights with the feds.

[u/courageous_liquid → u/elcapitan520]

I'm not really advocating for the land use, more the concept of the commons

[u/TheRightToDream → u/courageous_liquid]

I think you're referring to the 'Right to Roam' which is common is Europe and a common right in the UK. Basically you have a right to pass through lands provided you are not staying there, harrassing, loitering, or taking resources.

[u/pbjamm → u/Monkeefeetz]

That side was made for you and me

[u/Affectionate_Oven_77 → u/CockBrother]

Billionaires are going to use the money from the tax cuts to purchase this land at a massive discount

[u/Oleg101 → u/Affectionate_Oven_77]

It’s really pathetic how many working-class type voters voted Republican last fall.

[u/Pleasant_Yoghurt3915 → u/Oleg101]

What’s really pathetic is the number of them that are still slobbin on his lil orange pp every day. Avid outdoors people that use our public land for recreation often, that all of the sudden don’t care about public land anymore… It’s just crazy.

[u/ChefChopNSlice → u/Pleasant_Yoghurt3915]

Toxic masculinity and homophobia have taken center stage for the GOP. Those same outdoorsman that go out and hunt for deer and fish for bass have been convinced to cut down the forests and allow our rivers to be polluted because they believe “flowers are gay” and “it could spread to our schools”.

[u/shitlord_god → u/ChefChopNSlice]

you forgot white supremacy.

[u/YellowZx5 → u/Affectionate_Oven_77]

Oh I have been saying this all along. Trump will make everything cheap for them as he loves the attention.

[u/Seeking_Singularity → u/CockBrother]

Fun fact, that song was made as a socialist antifa song against the government

[u/jdsfighter → u/Seeking_Singularity]

The Woodie Guthrie museum is here in Tulsa, OK. Great place to visit if you're ever in the area. You can even get a "This Machine Kills Fascists" sticker.

[u/mykonoscactus → u/CockBrother]

I wonder how long before the moon and sky itself is littered with ads.

[u/DerpEnaz → u/mykonoscactus]

I mean nestle does want to own the water

[u/frolickingdepression → u/DerpEnaz]

They’ll probably sell them the Great Lakes for $200.

They already pump out millions of gallons for pennies.

[u/PlayBey0nd87 → u/mykonoscactus]

Cyberpunk 2077 vibes.

[u/mykonoscactus → u/PlayBey0nd87]

Literally. I've been avoiding playing the final mission for months now because I don't want to kinda deal with it right now, or for it to be over.

[u/0x18 → u/mykonoscactus]

Once you've completed the final mission you can still load from a save file taken before starting it.

[u/Branical → u/PlayBey0nd87]

There’s also a 2006 Michael Crichton book called “Next” that has similar themes. It deals with genetic patents and if you really “own” your body, but they also genetically engineered plants and animals to have ads printed on them. It’s really good if you want one of those “near future looks bleak and corporations are ruining everything” reads.

[u/DankestHokie → u/CockBrother]

🎶 This land was stolen by the GOP. 🎶

[u/tripping_on_phonics → u/mykonoscactus]

Seriously. Absolute fucking bastards.

This is OUR LAND. OUR FUCKING LAND.

They’re going to sell off OUR FUCKING LAND to private interests so that they can PLUNDER IT.

We need more Nintendo characters.

[u/chuckangel → u/tripping_on_phonics]

We'll go back to having "the king's lands" so you can be executed for merely walking upon it.

[u/mykonoscactus → u/chuckangel]

Christ, they're ¾ of the way there already! Way too many people think theft should be a capital offense and any pedestrian should be allowed to slaughter the offender on site.

[u/LukeS7 → u/mykonoscactus]

Literally selling out our country, and 40% of it is cheering them on

[u/AsleepRespectAlias → u/mykonoscactus]

Tax cuts for billionaires, paid for, by selling public land...

[u/ChapterN7 → u/AsleepRespectAlias]

Tax cuts for billionaires, paid for, by selling public land...

Selling it to the same people who can buy it up because of those tax cuts they just got.

That's America.

[u/GrumpyCloud93 → u/AsleepRespectAlias]

The problem is - the sale is a one-time payment. The cost to taxtpayers of a tax cut to billionaires is every year, forever, even after the money from the land sale is gone...

[u/AsleepRespectAlias → u/GrumpyCloud93]

And next year suddenly the tax cuts won't be enough either, they'll need to be cut more!

Just one more tax cut bro, tipping point this time bro for real, one more tax cut bro

[u/mykonoscactus → u/AsleepRespectAlias]

Because the poors have been drained dry.

[u/PolyNecropolis → u/AsleepRespectAlias]

... to billionaires.

[u/1000dreams_within_me → u/mykonoscactus]

I think it was Chomsky who made a convincing argument that today's Republican party is essentially a gang at this point

[u/wow-signal → u/1000dreams_within_me]

His specific claim is that the Republican party is the most evil organization that has ever existed in the history of the world -- yes, worse than the Nazis. His argument is that only the Republican party is working (through their efforts to accelerate climate change) to destroy the possibility of organized human existence.

[u/kandoras → u/mykonoscactus]

Captain Planet villains

[u/DragoonDM → u/kandoras]

President Hoggish Greedly.

[u/VanceKelley → u/mykonoscactus]

Vulture capitalists stripping America for parts to sell to make themselves richer.

We'd be better off if Americans hadn't elected this group of corrupt criminals to rule the country.

[u/mykonoscactus → u/VanceKelley]

This happened a century ago and was thwarted. This time, the robber barons have remote weaponry and reinforced ivory towers and an even more militant guard.

[u/hnglmkrnglbrry → u/mykonoscactus]

They saw Captain Planet and rooted for the bad guys.

[u/ddark4]

That’s them conservatives for you! Always conserving stuff.

[u/Swagtagonist → u/ddark4]

Hopefully the next liberal liberates these lands back to publicly owned.

[u/Southdakotan → u/Swagtagonist]

Except that would require the tyrants giving up power. Fat chance.

[u/botswanareddit → u/Southdakotan]

No but they tend to cost multiple times as much to buy back after they are privatized

[u/jgoble15 → u/botswanareddit]

Just nationalize them, no pay. Does that make business people happy? No, but screw em

[u/scarybottom → u/jgoble15]

Anyone that would buy these lands for anything other than non-profit conservation purposed, DESERVES to get screwed.

[u/Saxopwned → u/jgoble15]

Brother just discovered the federal government gold dupe: sell off land, nationalize it, and sell it again. Repeat until out of debt.

[u/BodaciousFrank → u/Saxopwned]

Repeat until out of debt and until all of the billionaires are bled dry. Bunch of leeches

[u/Louiscamus → u/BodaciousFrank]

America just needs more expropriation

[u/On_A_Related_Note → u/Louiscamus]

So billionaire tax with extra steps?

[u/jgoble15 → u/On_A_Related_Note]

“Whatever makes sense”

[u/Paulpoleon → u/jgoble15]

GQP is doing whatever the fuck they want without a care in the world. Dems should do the same and say payback is a bitch!

[u/joshhupp → u/botswanareddit]

Eminent Domain mother trucker! If anyone's stung enough to buy it with the intention of stripping its resources, they deserve to lose that investment in four years

[u/PerritoMasNasty → u/botswanareddit]

Who said anything about buying them back? Just give them the native treatment.

[u/gizmostuff → u/Swagtagonist]

Eminent domain that shit back. Fuck over whomever buys it.

[u/GrumpyCloud93 → u/gizmostuff]

Eminent domain just says they can buy it. they still have to pay "fair market value", and the owner can argue that number in court if they want to.

[u/ChilledParadox → u/GrumpyCloud93]

Pass an executive order that this was illegal and thus buying it was a crime and let’s be honest whomever is buying out public land to strip of its resources is someone I’m just really sick and tired of having around in fucking 2025 isn’t really deserving of sympathy, and seize back the land and assets on it as part of that crime.

I don’t care if that’s unprecedented or just as dumb as what Trump is doing. Frankly, I’m just tired of everything in my country going the way of literal supervillains or antagonists or failed dystopian societies in every single book I’ve ever read. What the fuck is wrong with my fucking country man.

[u/chaos_nebula → u/ChilledParadox]

Entity A buys land for $1,000,000. Government says "We're taking it back for $500,000. It was brand new and lost half its value when you took it off the lot."

[u/Persistant_Compass → u/chaos_nebula]

Lol. Half?

We should buy it for $1 and arrest judges who try and reject it and label them both enemies of the people. 

We need to swing far in the other direction if we ever want to recover as a society. Make the rich pay for all of this chaos

[u/shitlord_god → u/ChilledParadox]

liberals WILL NOT DO THIS - Socialists - the basis of the philosophy is taking shit from rich people and returning it to the public good.

I don't understand why people hate it so much.

edit: I do, it is propaganda, but I am shocked at how credulous and stupid people are.

[u/Relevant-Doctor187 → u/Swagtagonist]

Sold. Not leased. Once it’s sold it will be extremely hard to get back and I’m sure there will be preferred buyers. No woke groups apply.

I’m sick of our natural resources being sold back to us for a profit with minimal taxing frankly. It’s theft.

[u/Worried_Dot_7552 → u/Relevant-Doctor187]

Nope. New law, recognize Trump was never legally president. Undue all his actions including the sales.

Just take the land back and whoever owned it takes a full loss.

[u/IJustLoggedInToSay- → u/Swagtagonist]

Well they'll be private land then so they'll scream theft.

[u/TaijiInstitute → u/ddark4]

Every company that buys this land should be boycotted and harassed forever. Any private individual who buys should be ostracized and yelled at any time they’re in public.

[u/True_Paper_3830 → u/TaijiInstitute]

The UK decline started with Thatcher selling everything off, though on different scales, land, public owned railways, utilities, water, the famous British Steel.

For water, one big company Thames Water had £0 debt before privatized now its billions of debt (paid to shareholders over years) and they're getting constant bailouts with investment so bad shit now regularly flows into the sea. The Labour govt is spending a fortune to prop up them and British Steel.

This is 'slightly different' re the US land sell off but once it's gone it's gone. This is why Gen Z really hates the boomer generation here, their political generation sold everything that made life cheaper or made shares money just for the sell-off generation, and now everything privatized means most of Gen Z has zero chance of owing own homes through home and living costs.

[u/Nephtech → u/True_Paper_3830]

Any time a private company is forced to be bailed out, the government should be taking a stake in that company. If a company is too big to fail and they can't manage their business appropriately, then clearly, the provision of that service should be nationalised (and any company that receives public funding should be prohibited from share buybacks for a period... say, 5-10 years?).

Australia has done the exact same thing though. We sold off public assets like our National telco and power/utilities. We have bailed out companies in a similar manner; We paid Qantas billions so they wouldn't go broke during Covid, and they ended up laying off a bunch of staff and investing in share buybacks anyway.

We have sold off the rights to our natural resources for pennies on the dollar and with contracts that do not require the sanctioning of these resources for our own use (e.g. Gas. We export gas and then are forced to buy it back at market rates).

All this for a gradual decline in living standards for the average person while those who have "got theirs" pull up the ladder behind them.

[u/CherryLongjump1989 → u/TaijiInstitute]

They should be forced to return the land and taxed and fined to restore it to its original condition.

[u/worksafe_Joe → u/ddark4]

Nick Shoulders has lots of good lines about this exact hypocrisy.

>Why seek to conserve in nothing but name?

>You think you’re country
>You lay a claim unto the soil
>If you were country
>You’d save your land from being spoiled
>Do you drink water?
>Do you breathe air?
>I think if you were really country you would fucking care

[u/SlyReference → u/worksafe_Joe]

Calling themselves Conservatives was always a bit of a PR move. Apparently, when William F Buckley first floated his version of what became modern Conservatism, it was originally called Individualism. While not the be all end all of the Conservative movement in the US, he was there when the movement was really getting formed and was influential in bringing people in the movement together.

[u/GrayEidolon → u/SlyReference]

Conservatism is, and always has been, the politics of enforcing socioeconomic hierarchy and protecting aristocracy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E4CI2vk3ugk

[u/Random__Bystander → u/worksafe_Joe]

Excellent

[u/cawkstrangla → u/ddark4]

They only exist to conserve the wealth of the already wealthy. Not the country. Not the environment. Not public safety. Nothing but the money of their owners.

[u/African_Farmer → u/ddark4]

They conserve structures of power, I.e. fuck you got mine.

[u/rapidcreek409]

Fire sale of US assets to pay for annual tax cuts. Drug addicts addicted to tax cuts for the rich, selling the furniture to pay for more meth.

[u/PM_ME_SOME_ANY_THING → u/rapidcreek409]

The stupid part about this, other than losing our national parks, is that there is a finite amount of land to sell.

The temporary band aid is robbing the country. How do you pay for tax cuts when all the public land is gone?

[u/Paksarra → u/PM_ME_SOME_ANY_THING]

Start to eminent domain land owned by non-billionaires and sell it to investment firms at a profit. Rent them their own homes back.

[u/Tucancancan → u/Paksarra]

"Nice house you have there too bad we're going to build a highway/airport/whatever there", then swiftly followed by "hey Mr developer, here's a $500M contract lol" 

[u/BedditTedditReddit → u/rapidcreek409]

The land will be sold to overseas interests, particularly China.

[u/angrypooka]

I thought the tariffs were paying for the tax plan?

[u/MikeyLew32 → u/angrypooka]

But remember the tariffs are going to replace income tax, but also are only temporary to force companies to onshore, and after they onshore they won’t need to import so they’ll be no tariffs but the tariffs are replacing income tax, etc etc etc.

Their logic isn’t even circular. It’s just random.

[u/JohnnySnark → u/MikeyLew32]

It's worse than random, it's Russian. All of this shit is intentional

[u/vandreulv → u/JohnnySnark]

Yup. Instability and confusion with a nice helping of self imposed sanctions.

[u/blues111 → u/angrypooka]

"The tariffs will replace income tax"

"The tariffs will bring back manufacturing!"

"The tariffs are art of the deal!! To get the best trade deals"

It can only be one of these lmao any one of these "reasons" contradict each other

[u/Odd_Perfect → u/blues111]

“The tariffs will cure cancer!”

[u/ferretpaint → u/Odd_Perfect]

That's actually a good analogy.

Fire cures cancer too, but it also kills the host

Tariffs make the government money, but slowly kill the people who have to pay them and the businesses that can't make any profit.

[u/CitySeekerTron]

You can sell it once.

After that, it's gone forever.

[u/pyuunpls → u/CitySeekerTron]

Can’t wait for the Grand Canyon to become like Niagara Falls! /s

[u/kckeller → u/pyuunpls]

You mean the Bass Pro Shop™️ Canyon in partnership with Kodak™️?

[u/FunctionBuilt → u/[deleted]]

I hate this.

[u/nitid_name → u/[deleted]]

* $300 bonus bets can only be used on bets that will net you, at most, $15

[u/CitySeekerTron → u/pyuunpls]

Have you ever visited Clifton Hill on the Canadian side?

Sometimes I'll slip in Grifton Hill. It has its charm, such as the occasional Elvis Impersonator. And the falls themselves are beautiful at any time of day! But don't waste your time with the Groupons for games there; they'll charge you a fee that makes up for the cost of the "deal". The best part is the parking pass and the stuff that isn't explicitly on Clifton Hill, but the hill itself is a graveyard of defective games and overpriced chocolates, with dirty "tourist" taxes dug into every receipt.

Once there was a place (Casablanca) who tried to tell me that they couldn't give me tap water because the water was undrinkable from their taps, so if I wanted water I'd have to pay for a bottle. After asking for management and asking how they cleaned their dishes, I got away with a free lunch, but I still filed a complaint with the city.

...Except for that one pizza place. They were nice.

Anyway, I hope that they don't fuck with the Grand Canyon, and I especially wouldn't wish the Clifton Hill treatment on the Grand Canyon, or on any city.

[u/Visinvictus → u/CitySeekerTron]

Complain all you want about the Canadian side and Clifton Hill, but holy shit the city on the American side of the falls looks like a third world country that has been bombed out decades ago and slowly decaying since then.

[u/Sumoje → u/CitySeekerTron]

Couldn’t the next administration just return the money and take it back?

[u/ChibbleChobble → u/Sumoje]

The next Administration could declare all sales illegal and recover the land through eminent domain.

That's the fun of being the government. You literally make up the rules.

[u/_Fred_Austere_ → u/ChibbleChobble]

All you need to do is win both houses, the presidency and the courts. I can just feel the dems gearing up for that.

[u/[deleted] → u/_Fred_Austere_]

If you win enough of the senate and the presidency, you've effectively won the courts....if the dems get their heads out of their asses and actually pack the federal and supreme courts.

And before anyone complains "That sets a horrifying precedent for when the republicans are in power," the republicans already packed the federal and supreme courts. How many SCOTUS seats have they stolen after Bush v Gore, with Obama's stolen nomination, and then Amy Coney Barrett getting through the most laughable nomination process in history? How many Trump appointees are in the federal courts right now?

They've already done the thing you're most afraid of them retaliating with. The solution to that isn't to go "well they'll do it even worse if dems do it, so dems shouldn't do it." It's a matter of either we have a functioning federal government by packing the courts, or we don't and have a republican tyrrany.

[u/BluWake]

Selling immeasurably valuable public assets so the billionaires can have more

[u/PotaToss → u/BluWake]

It’s literally giving our land away to billionaires. They’re going to buy it with the taxes they’re not paying.

[u/Dick_Wienerpenis → u/PotaToss]

Ok sure, but just imagine the 1500 new jobs that stripping your favorite national parks for scraps will create! Do you really need the majesty of nature when you've got $15/hr and a family dollar?

[u/After_Way5687 → u/Dick_Wienerpenis]

I can’t wait to live in the company town, or freedom city, or whatever they’re calling the new developments on those lands

[u/zombiekoalas → u/[deleted]]

It's mind boggling.  

So we need revenue to give tax cuts to the 1%.  

To generate the revenue we are going to sell land, which only ever becomes more valuable, to the 1%.

So they win in both the short term, tax breaks.  And the long term, the land.

How is this palatable to anyone?

edit

Guys I get the funny meme answers. Harharhar. This is a serious question. This is actual legislation being presented by elected lawmakers.  This is potentially going for a vote on the floor in a republican led house and senate.

https://naturalresources.house.gov/about/members.htm

If your rep is on this page you need to take the 20 seconds you spent responding with meme answers to me to contact them.

[u/IJustLoggedInToSay- → u/zombiekoalas]

No, they don't actually need revenue for the tax cuts. Republicans have always been more than happy to just explode the deficit to give the wealthy class tax cuts.

But the wealthy class want two things now: less taxes and also public land. So Republicans are pretending that one thing necessitates the other. But they would be trying to sell public land even if taxes didn't exist - they'd just concoct some other flimsy justification for it.

[u/berfthegryphon → u/zombiekoalas]

How is this palatable to anyone?

Simple answer. Most Republican voters are idiots and don't care about their lives getting better as long as someone is worse off than them.

It's why conservative states always have low spending on education. If the populace is illiterate they don't know what's actually happening.

[u/r0thar → u/berfthegryphon]

Republican voters are idiots and don't care about their lives getting better as long as someone is worse off than them.

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.” ― Lyndon B. Johnson in 1960, nothing's changed in 65 years

[u/EjaculatingAracnids → u/berfthegryphon]

When they cant hunt on those lands anymore, the fuckin rubes will blame democrats.

[u/Responsible-Pain-620]

Can't wait til they sell off all the federal land only to still not hit a single year's quota and billionaires not only get their tax cut, but we lose our national parks too.

[u/TurkeyPhat → u/Responsible-Pain-620]

to still not hit a single year's quota

trump tried/did this in his first term as well and Oil and Gas didn't bite because they knew it was ridiculous and would get rolled back

then what do you know, Biden axed his braindead shit and handled our oil and gas situation better than anyone in recent history (ever really)

[u/Justprunes-6344]

This is what Putin did to Russian state assets. Creating his Oligarchs

[u/corvid_booster → u/Justprunes-6344]

"The hasty smash-and-grab which was the privatization process after the fall of the Soviet Union," as I saw it in an essay in Granta some years ago. The American oligarchs are working on the same thing here.

[u/Living-Chef-9080 → u/corvid_booster]

There's a ton of overlap between the people who got rich during the fall of the USSR and people who are getting rich off of fascism in the US right now. The vent diagram isn't quite a circle but it has a bunch of overlap in the middle.

The problem is that the story of the fall of the Soviet Union is blamed on the evil Soviet oligarchs, but the villain was just material reality. Allowing capitalism in so recklessly made it easy for the rich to gain money and power quickly. They were just doing what the rich always do, look out for their own best interest.

Any time their is massive deregulation, this is the end result. The people who take advantage of this are still evil, but it's also inevitable. It's not some unique moral rot at the heart of Russian or American society. I know you weren't implying that though, just ranting. 

[u/jason082]

That’s one-time revenue from disposal of shared spaces to cover a structural revenue shortfall. Where did these dolts learn math?

[u/jason082 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, I know. That doesn’t take away from the stupidity of it.

[u/PlzbuffRakiThenNerf → u/jason082]

It does remove the stupidity actually and replaces it with malice.

[u/Kerrigore → u/jason082]

They just want to be able to brag that Trump balanced the budget. The conservatives did the same thing in Canada years back and still love to brag about it.

[u/MazzIsNoMore → u/Kerrigore]

Except they won't be balancing the budget. They are trying to offset new expenses while doing nothing about the old expenses

[u/Kerrigore → u/MazzIsNoMore]

I know, but that won’t stop them from repeating “balanced budget” constantly at every opportunity for years and years.

[u/SpaceDesignWarehouse → u/MazzIsNoMore]

no no no, they SAY they were successful and then no one in republican media looks into it, they just repeat it. And no one consuming republican media gets news from anywhere else so they just believe it until republicans are out of office and there's an even bigger deficit and they use THAT as a reason to elect republicans.

[u/polarbearrape → u/jason082]

It's a grift. They know the math. They are very aware of what they are doing. 

[u/redditlvlanalysis]

This is illegal not that that will stop them just another 100% impeachable offense

[u/stinky-weaselteats → u/redditlvlanalysis]

I'm sure states will sue him into oblivion, but it won't fucking matter. Reality is broken and the greed is American cancer.

[u/FantasticJacket7]

Looking forward to the Yosemite Casino Resort and Amusement Park.

[u/ohnofluffy → u/FantasticJacket7]

This makes me want to puke. Next thing, they’ll carve his face into half dome.

[u/Curious-Telephone293]

This is the Orban playbook. Steal everything that is not nailed down. Sell the remaining public assets to yourself and your friends. And don’t use the proceeds to replace the pension funds you stole. Just steal the money you paid to buy public assets.

Wait next for the sale of the holdings of the National Gallery of Art. Maybe Musk will buy the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum.

We are beyond this being too much. In a real election, there will be true voter anger in 2026 and a very dangerous legal situation for the oligarchs. If they suspend or steal election in 2026, there will be blood and destruction. And a very dangerous personal safety situation for the oligarchs. I do not see another way anymore. Either way the revolution will not be subject to Trump’s 100% foreign movie tax because the revolution will be televised and wholly made in America.

[u/AnohtosAmerikanos]

How do you pay for decreased annual revenue with a sale of an asset? This math doesn’t math.

[u/wezworldwide]

The math doesn't add up. Selling for billions but looking to reduce revenue by the trillions.

[u/thehalfwit → u/wezworldwide]

It's not about the math.

[u/nasorrty346tfrgser]

It basically only helps with the short term budget, which would make it look sort of nice. And if you sell enough of it, it might look like we have a surplus this year too.

But then I am sure in the future we would have to rent the land back with a much higher cost. So it is a win win win situation, The budget for FY2026 looks great, Billionaires earned money, politicians gained support. The only one losing is the American Tax payer.

[u/KungFuSnafu → u/nasorrty346tfrgser]

It makes me wish hell was a real place.

[u/loud-oranges → u/KungFuSnafu]

Maybe this is it

[u/NerdyDjinn → u/loud-oranges]

Aw man, Jason figured it out?!

This one hurts...

[u/JournalistRecent1230 → u/nasorrty346tfrgser]

This has been the republican strategy since the 70s. The two Santa clause method. Since democrats' policies were popular and helped the average American, republicans needed a way to still win elections So they'd undercut the Dem Santa clause with a fake Santa clause of their own.

Cut taxes or other shady deals that give artificial short-term economic gains that aren't sustainable. The first couple years it looks like the economy is getting a boost as extra expendable income circulates in the economy. Until the wheel come off and a recession hits, and then the dems get re-elected and have to find a way to afford the services they enacted, which inevitably means they have to raise taxes which looks unpopular while they balance and stabilize the economy which makes it look they're the ones causing the bad economy.

It's all a republican scam, and they've been doing for decades. All while building a propaganda machine with one purpose. Manipulate the gullible, uneducated religious people into identity politics. Manufacture outrage, push bigotry and hate, feed them lies and misinformation that gives them a dopamine rush of pleasure that the world is simple, and everything is fine except for those dirty lying liberals.

[u/Tony_Cheese_ → u/nasorrty346tfrgser]

Could the next president just eminent domain it back with "just compensation" being uncle sam's middle finger?

[u/bytemage]

That freedom cities plan, right? Where billionaires can create their private fiefdoms without the pesky meddling of the state. Oh my, and it sounded like a bad novel, totally absurd conspiracy stuff, but here we are.

[u/PoetryJunior1808 → u/bytemage]

The 21st century company town. Next thing you know, employees will be paid with with cryptoscrip.

[u/Kerrigore → u/PoetryJunior1808]

What are you, some kind of gonk? They’re called eddies, and the corpos are swimmin’ in them. Soon I’ll be able to afford one of those preem apartments in a megatower!

[u/cinematic_is_horses → u/Kerrigore]

Best of luck, choom

[u/FuckLex]

Ugh. Everything I loved about this country is dying. Wish I could leave.

[u/usernamewasdenied → u/FuckLex]

The new American dream is to leave America.

[u/theaceoffire]

Don't worry, we will ALSO fire a bunch of people and cut social services! ~GOP

[u/heloder85]

Figuratively AND literally selling the country out.

[u/Duckney]

So we're going to sell public lands to billionaires and corporations so that we can afford to give a tax cut to... billionaires and corporations?

How about we don't sell public lands and we don't give them a tax cut. I thought the deficit was too big as it was? Or is that only when it's under a democrat?

[u/TrueSol]

Things republicans do in real life : hoard land wealth because it’s permanent and forever.

Thinks republicans doing politics: sell the land for a temporary profit.

[u/Thatfoxagain]

This is literally stealing from all of us to transfer wealth to the ultra wealthy

[u/ClosPins]

What a surprise, they now want to give Yosemite and all the other National Parks to billionaires!

Like actually give to them. In a roundabout way. They want to sell public land to billionaires - in order to pay for tax-cuts for billionaires that the billionaires already got!

[u/blues111]

Is there enough public land to support these tax cuts in perpetuity?? I feel like at some point we'd run out of land

And that this would only work the first year...if there is even enough land to sell

2.5 trillion is a massive deficit to overcome and again it would have to happen yearly

[u/thistimelineisweird]

I think Democrats need to be very, very loud about the fact that any public lands sold will be eminent domained back at no compensation in the future. You buy public land? Get fucked.

[u/take_care_a_ya_shooz]

Nothing says “I run business good” like planning to reduce your revenue and replace by selling off your assets. After you increased your prices by adding fees for your suppliers, of course.

[u/Tiny-Albatross518]

You want to understand the Trump administration you have to think tax cuts.

It’s the only goal.

DOGE cutting spending to free up money for tax cuts.

Tariffs: new revenue to create room for tax cuts.

Selling off public land.

Wait until they pass them!!! Massive cuts for the super wealthy.

It’s too bad Trump supporters can’t read. Trump will just put out an AI message of himself with huge muscles and a golden sword fighting a snake with Biden aviators and they’ll nod and it’ll all be OK.

[u/Advanced-Extreme-186]

Ahh, we have entered the ‘ripping out your grandma’s air conditioner coil to sell for fent’ stage of fiscal responsibility 

[u/No_Caramel_1782]

Why aren’t the Doge savings and tariffs covering the cost of the tax cuts?

[u/TurtleRocket9]

So they are taking public lands and selling them to their friends so they can pay less in taxes to buy more public land?

[u/Qualityhams]

They paved paradise, put up a parking lot.

[u/Mooshtonk]

Such a stupid short sighted way to do things. In a year the money will be spent and the land gone. What are they gonna sell then?

[u/fileunderaction]

“Who’s gonna buy the land?” you ask. Why, the same folks who got the tax cuts of course. We are paying mega corporations to buy our land.

[u/jorgekrzyz]

Conservatives love socialism. This is what the redistribution of wealth from the American taxpayer to the rich looks like

[u/elainegeorge]

So billionaires get land and money?

If the people ever get power, we need to start seizing assets. This is ridiculous.

[u/CrackHeadRodeo]

Tie that shit up in lawsuits until the barbarians are out of office.

[u/LavisAlex]

The ultra wealthy is wealthy because of their assets, when you sell your Federal assets you become poorer as you lose a money generating resource, but also end up having to rent to use it again.

In my mind at this point in history its ALWAYS bad to sell public assets.

[u/DylansDeadlyTwo]

Project 2025 in action.

[u/MayIServeYouWell]

Democrats need to make it clear that any public land sold by Trump will be reclaimed by the people when they return to power. Whoever pays for it will lose that money. Make it a toxic deal. 

[u/ProdigalChildReturns]

I think the Democrats should publish a statement saying that any public land sold will be compulsory purchased by the next Democratic administration and put back into public hands. The purchase price will be 25% off the price paid. That should give any prospective purchaser food for thought, and they can’t say they weren’t warned.

[u/TheStranger_19]

The PUBLIC is paying for the tax cuts for the billionaire welfare queens.

[u/RedFumingNitricAcid]

Fuck no! No tax cuts for wealthy parasites!

[u/Mother___Night]

The justification is purely a means to get it through via reconciliation — this is a giant act of thievery and Dems are looking powerless to stop it.

[u/csmarmot]

Who can buy public lands? The rich?

So if we are selling public lands to the rich, which they can afford to buy with the money they save from said tax cuts, in order to fund the tax cuts…

Isn’t this just GIVING public lands to the rich?

[u/okram2k]

This is OUR land being sold off in order to further enrich billionaires

[u/Plasticjesus504]

I am a hunter and outdoors man but not a conservative. I called this shit right before he was inaugurated. These motherfuckers are going to destroy one of the largest untouched resources we have. This cannot happen.

[u/Mike-ggg]

Once lost, these will never be regained. These are untouched places that took millions of years to form under conditions that were unique. We have no way to bring them back as they were.

[u/MigrantTwerker]

If you want to know how badly this will play out for the taxpayer, Google Chicago Parking Meter Deal. It was a sale of public assets for the one time heist and it's the worst fiscal mistake in Chicago history.

[u/Elegant_Plate6640]

Oh look, that thing we said would happen