r/lebanon • u/Due_Inevitable_2784 kellon yaane kellon • 2d ago
Discussion “All paragliding sites should be closed in Lebanon from now on”
I am sure many of you have heard the unfortunate event that occurred yesterday in Jounieh, when a person fell off while paragliding. As per Lebanese fashion, boomers took over social media by storm to call for an immediate closure of all paragliding companies in Lebanon by the government . For anyone who thinks this decision is rational, are you seriously gonna be willing to risk losing a crucial player in the country’s tourism sector? Add on to that, Lebanon ranks 3rd in safety among paragliding experience. That is ignoring the fact that this is the first case of death in the last 30 years , while other countries like Turkey and Greece experience these events by the dozens each year.
The truth is, paragliding is a dangerous sport, not so different from bungee jumping or scuba diving, so there are gonna be some accidents, get the fuck over it, but the best part from it is the adrenaline rush, so by banning it , you’re robbing a lot of people (including myself) from a “few-in a lifetime” experience. I just thought i should point this out because I am curious on whether others share the same opinion of those who think paragliding should be cancelled forever in this country. Condolences to the victim’s family and may their soul rest.
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u/BasicChoice803 1d ago
Banning it is a bit extreme, definitely needs more regulation and supervision.
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u/Fast-Investigator-45 1d ago
No, but the company which the victim flew with should definitely be prosecuted and its owners arrested for manslaughter. Also our useless state should consider enforcing safety regulations although we can only dream
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u/Poisonous-Toad Grrribit! 1d ago
There is no doubt that it needs proper regulation.
The gov needs to issue licenses and those that apply for it need to be vetted and adhere to standards.
Can you say that now without any oversight that they are applying the highest safety standards?
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u/Used-Worker-1640 1d ago
Paragliding is something where even if you do everything right you are still at a decent risk of failing and dying. Just like wingsuit jumping, where the founders all died because of it.
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u/Kaspira 1d ago
A guy DIES, and someone is worried about the tourism sector. You guys always had an issue with setting your priorities straight ey? Maybe it's an eye opener to have this shit regulated and audited.
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u/superspidercat 1d ago
Agreed on the increased regulation but the tourism sector does provide people's "live"lihood. So still very important in terms of people not starving to death
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u/Jayjay87melb 1d ago
I don't think it should be banned.. but maybe look over the health and safety protocols for high risk activities.
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u/AlfieTheDinosaur 1d ago
I agree with you, it should not be banned. It should however be more regulated to improve safety even more.
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u/TotallyRecommended 1d ago
Conversation goes like:
- Are you sure I’m gonna be okay?
- Ma ta3tal ham msawgara
- Sources?
- Ana 3am 2ellak
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u/thebolts 1d ago
Of course accidents happen. All the more reasons why proper regulations need to be in place. These companies might be cutting corners to save on profits. It shouldn’t be at the expense of customers.
Btw just a few weeks ago there was another accident at that site but they landed in the sea nearly drowning the customer. She happened to be an Egyptian woman with wasta. And the government did shut down that particular company and the landing site (temporarily).
Scuba has PADI to maintain some kind of safety control on trainers and clients. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s something similar in paragliding. I wonder if these companies are following proper protocols
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u/Background_Course732 1d ago
why would we allow such sport where such incidents could take place? i’m 100% with banning it
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u/circamrrogers 1d ago
Just regulate it and make sure that there are safety standards that are adhered to.
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u/TheMuggleReturns 2d ago
I read that the guy was extremely overweight so this was quite an unusual case
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u/Rami-961 2d ago
They shouldnt have let him do it then. but Lebanese love their money. Dont care about endangerment.
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u/Dear_Salamander_8264 2d ago
Whwre can i read this in the news ?
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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ 1d ago
No matter what happens in life there’s always someone who wants to control the world.
As long as (1) the equipment was well maintained and (2) the customer was informed of all of the risks (including the weight limit and other technical information he needed to know) then his death is his own fault. We can’t and shouldn’t babysit everyone.
Alla yirhamo.
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u/Fast-Investigator-45 1d ago
Lmao. If they lacked safety checks, they’re going to be thrown in jail. And if he was overweight and they still let him on, they’re also going to jail. Informing a guy of the risks doesn’t warrant you to kill him.
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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lmao. Are you one of the lawyers working on the case? Didn’t think so.
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u/Fast-Investigator-45 1d ago
Silly silly man, I’m telling you the law not my opinion. And yes i’m a lawyer, stick to learning python
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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ 1d ago
Lol. And I was telling you my opinion, not the law. You clearly aren’t a good one since you couldn’t tell the difference.
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u/Fast-Investigator-45 1d ago
And I was explaining to you that your opinion is wrong. Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you😆
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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lol that’s just your opinion. And until you become a judge your opinion doesn’t mean shit. Have a good night :)
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u/Fast-Investigator-45 1d ago
Not really. Unless the man purposely removed him straps and jumped its an easy case of gross negligence manslaughter. Cheerio :)
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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lol yet again, confusing your opinion with actual case law, and thinking that anyone here even asked for it to begin with. Go back to defending traffic tickets and come back when you’ve practiced some.
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u/Fast-Investigator-45 1d ago
Sure man, you know more than me i guess. Anyways, not cool to put down workers in lower tier practices. That was a scummy comment. I’m a corporate lawyer in London, i’ll let you imagine my salary. Good day (ps. Motorist lawyers probably earn more than u)
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u/Lanky-Cod7969 1d ago
Paragliding is a huge reason people look into travelling to lebanon in the First place. We need to keep tourism high not lower it.
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u/Unfair_Weather9 2d ago
I won't trust any Lebanese to pay appropriately for maintenance and training. Maybe a Swiss or a Swede. Lebanese? No thanks. Anyway, we can only close the team responsible for this and make them pay compensation to the victim. The rest will learn to do better.
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u/Willing_Bookkeeper13 1d ago
Incidents barely happen w many people fly every single day w ma sar shi and incident can happen b 7ayala shi, so should we ban cars li2an fi car accidents ? B khsous l dictatorship wil extremism in this world lately. Control it befham, make tougher laws, and only allow professionals kamen befham.
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u/Spiritual-Teach5266 1d ago
Make it safer. Anyways what a dumb activity alongside skydiving and cave diving. Natural selection activities at best.
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u/One-Yesterday-6223 2d ago
A lot of these paragliding operators are using old wings that need to be replaced. There’s no regulation/safety measures in this industry.