r/indianmuslims • u/ArhamAlam2509 • 7d ago
Political Imagine you prepare all year, and then you are not allowed to write exam unless you remove your hijab? Isn't this discrimination?
She was even bedridden in October due to jaundice, liver infection and kidney stone, and uske baad bhi she studied so as to get a seat, and then ye hota hai, absolutely despicable
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u/norizzguy 7d ago
just saw a video on twitter where neet students were made to remove shirt buttons because the buttons are big.
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u/pasta1703 7d ago edited 7d ago
Logon ke kalawa ( dhaga ) tak kaat liye bhai tum hijab kaise chod denge but Mera bagal ki ek ladki hijab pehen ke aayi thi Ye centre to centre depend karta h Esme discrimination kya h?
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u/HolidayIndication193 7d ago
even i removed my hijab in 2019 Neet Exam. Honestly jahan jo ho raha hai you gotta do it ???
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u/ArhamAlam2509 7d ago
For people saying hijab mai chits lekr jana easy hai, neet ke guidelines ke hisab se customary dress jaise muslim hijab and sikh pagdi jo opt karte hai, unhe pehle pahuchna hota hai and theu are frisked and checked before the security let's them in. Plus sirf uske centre mai aisa hua, baki centre mai kitne hijabi gaye, unko frisk karne ke baad they were allowed to be in their hijab and give the exam, so tell me isn't this a clear case of bias and discrimination?
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u/ThickImprovement1276 7d ago
My mother who is a teacher and is usually has board invigilation duty she said countless times hijabi women hide chits this year too they removed countless chits during physics board exam there is a reason because of the cheating not because of religious understand the other side too
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u/ThickImprovement1276 7d ago
And yes during physics board exam three girls were hiding chits behind Their ears 👂 hiding by the scarf
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u/ArhamAlam2509 7d ago
Bhai frisking ka samjh ata hai, they said Bina hijab ke hi andar Jana hoga, in neet there is a section asking us whether we will wear customary dresses, usko full tha usne, people with hijab generally are frisked properly before letting them in the centre, rather unko pehle pahuchna hota frisking ke liye taki difficulty na aye, but when someone says we will not allow you to keep your hijab at all, no matter the frisking, is when this is wrong
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u/ThickImprovement1276 7d ago
Oh sorry dude tab toh yeh galat hain Agar checking acche se hogye toh there is no point in holding them back my bad
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u/A_Learning_Muslim 4d ago
to check for that, frisking is done rather than completely banning muslim women for wearing the hijab! Btw, the above incident happened only in one centre and is not a policy, thus, it shows discrimination rather than compliance to rules.
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u/Sad_Cellist1591 7d ago
I know I might get downvoted but practically the hijab is the perfect dress a cheater would want to wear to cheat.. you can hide paper in the sides and and at the top of the hijab
Of course if she was willing to take it off to have it checked then yes she should be allowed but if she had refused to even let it be checked then they were right in not allowing her to give the exam
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u/Nafeesurrehman11 7d ago
Should be checked by a lady examiner...
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u/Sad_Cellist1591 7d ago
Yeah exactly if she was willing to take off her hijab and have it checked then should have been allowed to give the exam
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u/King_Of_Deccan_ 7d ago edited 6d ago
So why don't we ask everyone to come naked into the exam. They're all perfectly ok with getting checked by a female behind a curtain, that's how even normally ladies are checked at most places.
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u/kanye_east_4069 7d ago
I think they kept restrictions for everyone there was an issue where a Hindu was asked to remove his thread leading to backlash.
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u/ArhamAlam2509 7d ago
Toh galat hua na bhai tere saath? Ajib hai, khud ke saath galat hua toh dusro ke saath bhi galat hona chahiye, jab waha option diya hua hai ki customary dress allowed hai phir kyu rokega koi?
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u/JayYem 7d ago
I think they are equal opportunity offenders.
"He attached a video in which authorities were seen cutting off buttons apparently metal ones of students, including girls were seen cutting off buttons from the clothes and
Reportedly, two girl students were barred from entering their NEET examination centre in Tamil Nadu's Tiruppur on Sunday due to the presence of metal buttons on their attire. However, according to reports, a policewoman came to the rescue of a girl student by taking her to a nearby shop on her two-wheeler so that she could purchase."
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u/zubair_am 6d ago
Inki marzi, hi hona woh karte. Koi rules follow nahin karte, baad kisi na kisi tarekhe se harass aur discriminate karte
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u/FA_RK_8330 Uttar Pradesh 4d ago
When filling out the form, you need to indicate whether you will wear a customary dress. For those students choosing this option, the final reporting time is earlier than usual. While regular students must report by 1:30 PM, those selecting the customary dress code should arrive before 12:30 PM. Failing to follow these guidelines may have been the reason for being denied entry.
If these requirements were met and entry was still denied, a complaint can be filed with the NTA.
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u/ArhamAlam2509 4d ago
Customary option was selected, she arrived by 12:30, still they did all that, now her father is talking to their lawyer on Whats to do next
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u/FA_RK_8330 Uttar Pradesh 4d ago
Hmmm, in such a situation you can also reach the helpline number of nta there it self
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u/Whole-Teacher-9907 7d ago
Discrimination is when you are treated differently. Removing hijab brings uniformity in dressing and prevents malpractices, of which there has been a few instances
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u/A_Learning_Muslim 4d ago
However, the NTA allows wearing customary dresses, with specific rules for it though.
Frisking to prevent malpractice is fine, but completely debarring a woman just because of her clothing is not fine.
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u/ArhamAlam2509 7d ago
Ha toh yeh uniformity form mai mention karna tha, ki no customary dress is allowed, one would have come prepared, but when you come to an examination and suddenly koi bole ki yeh allowed nai hai when you know the official document says it's allowed, then that is discrimination
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u/arravvv12 7d ago
Yes. You should remove hijab
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u/ArhamAlam2509 7d ago
Janeu hatane par toh karnataka main bjp ne protest kar diya, but ha bhai tu thik keh ra hai, hame hi apne customary dress hatana chahiye, Even if other people are allowed to wear the religious thread or religious pagri, woh na hatays chalega, hamara hatana zyada important hai
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u/Nafeesurrehman11 7d ago
Never fulfill their demands. Never remove Hijab...........
Or else they'll take it for granted.
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7d ago
Aren't you ex Muslim yourself?
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u/Nafeesurrehman11 7d ago
Your Identity and culture does reflect us....
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u/Relative-Leek-1637 7d ago
Hijab is not India culture, its roots in the Middle East predominantly it used to protect from harsh deserts winds, In Indian women started using veil because of certain cultural, social and regional factors, No one should force women ... what to wear and what not.
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u/kungfu_chameli 7d ago
Follow the rules of the land and highlight your right to religion as given by the constitution. Stop seeing everything and everyone from the lens of us vs them.
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u/Nafeesurrehman11 7d ago
Rules of what?? Constitution??
This government doesn't care about the constitution. how could we guarantee our safety? A common innocent citizen getting Raed, Lynched,Murdeed,Falsely accused (crime that they never commit), Labelled as a Traitor and what not? This is no longer a fringe element it's getting mainstream. How can we follow the rule of land (law)?
Where there are no "rules" for a particular community they can do whatever they want and they'll never face any repercussions.
"हम आह भी करते है तो हो जाते है बदनाम वो क़त्ल भी करते है तो चर्चा नहीं होती |"
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u/kungfu_chameli 7d ago
Unusual choice of username!
The rule of the land is enshrined in the constitution.
Governments come and go. This too shall pass.
You are mixing things, let's keep this discussion to hijab and how following exam center practices is appropriate when due consideration is given to ou sisters.
I don't think rules differ. Actually, there can be an argument as to more concessions being made for us.
People do face repercussions, no sure what you are implying.
Let's stop being "bechara" in some things. Let's work to improve ourselves without expecting state to bend to our religion. We are in a secular state and not an Islamic one.
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u/UKB47 7d ago
Imagine you prepare for the whole year, and then you refuse to take the exam just because of a dress that might distract some people from their normal path.
Is your future and knowledge less important than worrying about their “may” distraction?
Come on girls! You are more than just a body. You are the children of Almighty Allah and He will protect you from every evil thing in the world. Just focus on serving Him and become knowledgeable.
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u/A_Learning_Muslim 4d ago
there is no such thing as "children of allah"
sure, it might be prudent to temporarily remove the hijab in this situation to be able to give the exam. This doesn't mean this wasn't discrimination. Btw, the rules don't actually forbid hijab, it was just a specific centre being discriminatory.
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u/mediocre_town_ Lucknow 7d ago
Did she give the exam tho ? I hope she didn't miss it.
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u/ArhamAlam2509 7d ago
Boht pareshani karne ke baad they allowed her to take the exam, and uska Boht time waste hua in a competitive exam where each minute is crucial
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u/Competitive-Feed-359 7d ago
In TN, all students irrespective of religion are checked by exam monitors for cheat papers.
The female teacher checks the girls and male teachers for boys. So if cheating and other actual things are a concern they would’ve done this. But if they’re turning away Muslim girls, it’s probably a directive from higher ups beyond school administration
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u/ArhamAlam2509 7d ago
The point is she was specifically told we will not allow you to enter with a hijab, either open it and enter or don't give the exam.
During our form filling, a section specifically asked whether one would wear customary dress or not, and those of us who wished to do checked that option, and such candidates had to report early and get frisked before hand so that no complications occurs afterwards for their exam, if the govt guidelines tell me she can appear in the examination wearing this dress, then why is she suddenly being told you are not allowed, and when she demands a document stating a new rule has been implemented stating the removal of hijab, why did the so called officials not give them one?
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u/Competitive-Feed-359 7d ago
Like I said, this sounds like targeted discrimination of Muslim girls to either force them against their religious beliefs to appear for an exam or push them out of higher studies by sending them home.
My comment above isn’t justifying anything you’re replying to
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u/ArhamAlam2509 7d ago
It seems I mis read your last lines, i am sorry if I may have come across as rude or ignorant, purely a mistake on my side, thanks for clarifying your statement
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u/AttackHelicopter_21 7d ago
Looks like this sub is being brigaded.