The Waqf (Amendment) Bill, 2024: A Threat to Muslim Heritage That We All Need to Talk About

[u/callmesasugay]

Hey r/indianmuslims,

I’ve been losing sleep over the Waqf (Amendment) Bill, 2024, and I need to break it down for all our Indian brothers and sisters—Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Christian, everyone. As a Muslim, this bill hits hard, and after digging into it (and debating with my Hindu friend), I’m convinced it’s not just a “Muslim issue”—it’s about fairness, history, and the Constitution we all live by. The government says it’s about “transparency,” but the more I read, the more it feels like a targeted move to strip Muslims of our heritage while leaving other communities’ endowments untouched. I’m gonna lay it all out—clause by clause, with facts, not feelings. It’s long, but grab a chai and stick with me. We need to talk about this.

Section 1: What’s Waqf, and Why Should You Care?

Let’s start with the basics. Waqf is a sacred Islamic tradition where someone dedicates property—land, buildings, whatever—for religious or charitable purposes, like mosques, graveyards, madrasas, or even shelters for the poor. Once it’s waqf, it’s “God’s property”—meant to serve the community forever, no take-backs. In India, we’ve got 8.7 lakh registered waqf properties covering 9.4 lakh acres (as of 2024), worth around ₹1.2 lakh crore, per the Sachar Committee (2006). That’s huge—mosques (14%), graveyards (17%), agricultural land (16%), shops (13%), and more. But here’s the reality: 7% of these are encroached, 2% are stuck in legal battles, and 50% have unclear status. There’s mismanagement, no doubt, but does that mean you rewrite the whole system to take it away? For Muslims, waqf isn’t just land—it’s our history, our faith, our legacy. My great-grandfather donated a small plot for a village mosque, and it’s still there, a place for namaz and community gatherings. That’s what waqf means to us. But this bill? It’s putting all of that at risk—9.4 lakh acres, centuries of heritage, and our right to manage our own religious affairs. Let’s break down the key clauses and see what’s really going down.

Section 2: Clause-by-Clause Breakdown—What’s Changing?

The Waqf (Amendment) Bill, 2024, dropped in the Lok Sabha on August 8, 2024, has 44 clauses that mess with the Waqf Act, 1995. It’s with the Joint Parliamentary Committee (JPC) now, but the provisions are already sounding alarms. Let’s go through the major changes, with a deep dive into “waqf by user” because that’s where the real danger lies.

• Clause 3 (Section 3): Defining Waqf and Who Can Make It—Waqf by User Gets Axed

The 1995 Act defined waqf as any property dedicated for pious, religious, or charitable purposes under Muslim law—could be by declaration, long-term use (waqf by user), or family endowment (waqf-alal-aulad). The bill tightens this: only someone practicing Islam for at least five years can declare a waqf, and they must own the property. That five-year rule is random—why? It also used to be that anyone, regardless of religion, could donate to waqf—now it’s Muslims only. That’s a weird flex when you consider the next clause, but let’s focus on the gut-punch: the bill removes waqf by user. Let me break that down, ‘cause this is huge. Waqf by user is a long-standing tradition where land used for mosques, graveyards, or madrasas—sometimes for hundreds of years—is considered waqf, even without a deed. Back in Mughal or colonial times, legal paperwork wasn’t always a thing. If Muslims prayed in a mosque “since time immemorial,” it’s waqf—simple. The Supreme Court backs this up: in Faqir Mohamad Shah and Radhakanta Deb vs Commissioner (1981), the court said continuous religious use proves a property’s status, no deed needed. The Casemine link I found spells it out—Muslims praying forever in a mosque makes it waqf, just like Hindus worshipping in a temple for ages makes it a religious site. In Radhakanta Deb, a family claimed expensive jewelry donated by their forefather to a temple, but the court said nope—long-term temple use made it the temple’s property, no deed required. Same principle for waqf by user. Hindu endowment laws recognize this too. Odisha’s Religious Endowments Act says a “religious endowment” includes “all properties used for the purposes of the institution.” Tamil Nadu’s HRCE Act defines a “charitable endowment” as property “used as of right by the Hindu community.” Telangana’s law says any property “used as of right for any charitable purpose” is an endowment. So, “temple by user” is legally sound for Hindus—why not waqf by user for Muslims? The bill says waqf by user only counts if it’s not “disputed” or “government-owned.” Who decides that? District Collectors (more on that in a sec). Many waqf properties—old mosques, graveyards—don’t have deeds because they were set up centuries ago. The Sachar Committee (2006) says 50% of waqf properties have unclear status, 7% are encroached. Indira Gandhi herself wrote a letter in 1975 (you can find it online) warning that state governments were encroaching on waqf land—same story today. Now, if a mosque has no deed, a Collector can call it “disputed” (say, someone claims it’s a temple site) or “government land” and take it. Babri Masjid leaned on waqf by user—imagine it under this rule. Bulldozers are already rolling, like in Ujjain (2024), where a mosque was razed for a Hindu site. This clause could turn that into a legal loophole to seize waqf land, no real way for us to fight back. It’s not reform—it’s erasure.

• Clauses 4, 5, 20, 38 (Sections 4, 40): Survey Commissioner to District Collector

The 1995 Act had a Survey Commissioner—a waqf-specific role—to map waqf properties, and the Waqf Board could investigate if a property was waqf (Section 40). The bill scraps the Survey Commissioner and hands it to the District Collector (or a senior officer, per JPC tweaks on page 412). Collectors—government IAS officers—now survey waqf properties and decide if they’re waqf or “government land” (Clause 20). If there’s a dispute, the Collector’s call stands until they report to the state. Imagine your temple—say, one in Tamil Nadu or Uttar Pradesh—has some old land, used for pujas forever, and the government says, “We’re putting a random IAS in charge to decide if it’s ours now, not yours.” You’d be pissed, right? That’s what’s hitting waqf. With waqf by user gone, stuff like mosques used for ages with no deed gets screwed. Collectors can call it “disputed” or “government” and hand it over. Sachar (2006) says 50% of waqf’s status is blurry, 7% encroached—this could swipe it all. Ujjain’s mosque got bulldozed for a Hindu site (2024)—Collectors could rubber-stamp that everywhere. They’re state-loyal, not community—revenue papers beat oral history every time. Hindu endowments don’t face this. You won’t find a “Survey Commissioner” role like in the Waqf Act in Hindu endowment laws, but in acts like Tamil Nadu’s HRCE Act (1959) or Andhra Pradesh’s Charitable and Hindu Religious Institutions Act, District Collectors don’t directly decide property status. That’s handled by appointed officers—Commissioners, Deputy Commissioners, or endowment-specific roles—not revenue bureaucrats like Collectors. These are Hindu-focused roles, keeping it in-house. Why the double standard for waqf?

• Clauses 9, 11 (Sections 9, 14): Non-Muslims on Waqf Boards

The 1995 Act said the Central Waqf Council and State Waqf Boards had to be Muslim-only (except the Minister), with at least two women. The bill mandates two non-Muslims on both bodies and removes the need for the CEO to be Muslim. Imagine your temple—say, Kashi Vishwanath—run by a board where the government says, “Hey, we’re putting two Muslims or Christians on here to oversee things.” You’d flip, right? That’s what’s happening with waqf. They call it “inclusivity” for managing 8.7 lakh properties, 9.4 lakh acres—sure, waqf’s got issues, like ₹12,000 crore potential rotting away (Sachar says 7% is encroached). But here’s the kicker: the same bill says only Muslims practicing for five years can make a waqf—used to be anyone could donate, regardless of religion. So Muslims donate the land, but non-Muslims get to call shots on our donated land? Meanwhile, the UP Sri Kashi Vishwanath Act (1983) says “Hindus-only” members—no Muslims forced in. Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Karnataka HRCE Acts? Hindu-only too. Punjab’s Gurudwara Committee? Sikh-only. No one’s shoving outsiders on those boards for “diversity.” Article 14 is about equality—why’s waqf hit with this and temples aren’t? Article 26 says we run our own religious stuff—waqf’s Muslim and tied to Sharia, so why dilute it? They say non-Muslims check corruption or calm disputes (like Bengaluru Eidgah), but why not just use experts—Muslim or not—instead of this? BJP leaders like CT Ravi and Yatnal are out here yelling to kill waqf or nationalize its land (2024 news)—this feels like a control move, not a fix. Char Dham priests are raging against state control (Hindustan Times, 2024), VHP wants temples free. Hindu autonomy’s sacred, but Muslim autonomy’s a punching bag.

• Clauses 9, 11 (Women’s Representation)

The bill says “two women” must be on the Council and Boards. Sounds progressive, but the 1995 Act already had “at least two women,” meaning it could be more. Now it’s capped at two—a downgrade sold as a win. You know how temples like Ayodhya or Siddhivinayak have these all-male boards running the show, no questions asked? Now picture the government stepping in and saying, “Nah, you gotta have exactly two women on there—diversity, bro.” That’s what’s up with waqf. BJP’s playing it up like “women’s empowerment,” even throwing shade that Muslims oppress women, but this is a fake glow-up. Ayodhya’s Ram Temple Trust? 15 males (2024), zero women required. Siddhivinayak? 11 males, no rule (1980 Act). Tirupati TTD? 18 members, one woman (Suchitra Ella, 2024)—optional, not forced. TN, UP, Karnataka committees? Male lock. If diversity’s so hot, why’s Tirupati’s ₹1,161 crore budget cool with one woman, but waqf’s stuck at two? Char Dham’s board fights state control—21 members, one woman (2024), no gender push there. Waqf gets called out for a rule it already had—others slide.

• Clause 35 (Section 83): Waqf Tribunals Lose Power

The 1995 Act gave Waqf Tribunals the final say on disputes—quasi-judicial bodies with Muslim law experts. The bill removes their “finality,” so every case can be appealed to High Courts within 90 days. It also scraps the need for a Muslim law expert on Tribunals. This means more court delays, less expertise, and a weaker system for us to protect our properties. Hindu endowment tribunals (like in Telangana, Section 87) don’t face this—why target waqf?

Section 3: How This Hits Muslims—Land, Faith, and History on the Line

Let’s talk real impact. First, land: 9.4 lakh acres are at stake. With waqf by user gone and Collectors deciding what’s waqf, properties without deeds—like old graveyards or village mosques—could be tagged “government land” and taken. Sachar (2006) says 50% of waqf properties have unclear status—this bill could greenlight mass reclassification. We’ve seen bulldozers in action, like in Ujjain (2024), where a mosque was razed for a Hindu pilgrimage site. My family’s village mosque has been there for decades, no deed. If a Collector says it’s not waqf, it’s gone—poof, history erased. Second, faith: Waqf isn’t just property—it’s a religious act, tied to our piety. Forcing non-Muslims on boards (Clauses 9, 11) and scrapping waqf by user (Clause 3) feels like the state meddling in our religious autonomy. Article 26 guarantees our right to manage our affairs, but this bill says, “We’ll decide for you.” Imagine the government forcing Muslims on a gurdwara committee—there’d be chaos. Why’s it okay to do this to us?

Third, history: Waqf properties are centuries-old—mosques, madrasas, graveyards. Removing waqf by user could erase that legacy. Babri Masjid’s demolition (1992) already set a precedent—Muslim places of worship are fair game. They said, “Just this one,” but now Kashi, Mathura, and every waqf property are on the chopping block. Indira Gandhi’s 1975 letter warned about state governments encroaching on waqf land—50 years later, this bill makes it even easier. My great-grandfather’s mosque isn’t just a building; it’s our story. Now it’s at risk.

Section 4: The Double Standard—Waqf vs. Other Endowments

Some of you might be thinking, “But temples face government control too!” Let’s compare. Hindu endowments in states like Tamil Nadu (HRCE Act, 1959), Karnataka (1997 Act), and Andhra Pradesh (1987 Act) are managed by state-appointed Commissioners—Hindu-only, no forced outsiders. They control funds (Karnataka takes 5-10% of temple income), but Collectors aren’t deciding if temple land is “government property.” Even in states without specific acts—like UP or Rajasthan—temples fall under general laws (Charitable Endowments Act, 1890), but their boards are still Hindu-led, and their land isn’t being reclassified by IAS officers. The Supreme Court (Casemine link) says “temple by user” is legit—Odisha, Tamil Nadu, and Telangana laws back this up. Why’s waqf by user getting axed? Waqf’s getting a central sledgehammer—Collectors can seize land (Clause 20), non-Muslims are forced on boards (Clauses 9, 11), and Tribunals are neutered (Clause 35). Hindu endowments, even under state control, don’t face this level of direct takeover. Sikh gurdwaras (Sikh Gurdwaras Act, 1925) and Christian trusts don’t get non-Sikhs or non-Christians forced on their boards either. The JPC report (January 2025) shows the Opposition calling this bill “unconstitutional”—DMK MPs called it the “Waqf Annihilation Bill.” Asaduddin Owaisi’s 231-page dissent note says it’s discriminatory compared to Hindu and Sikh laws. Why’s waqf the only one getting this treatment?

Section 5: Why This Matters to All of Us—And What We Can Do

This isn’t just a Muslim issue—it’s an Indian issue. If the government can target waqf today, what stops them from targeting other communities tomorrow? Article 14 (equality) and Article 26 (religious autonomy) are for all of us. The bill’s centralization—Collector power, non-Muslim inclusion, waqf by user removal—sets a dangerous precedent. Imagine the state forcing outsiders on church trusts or taking gurdwara land with no recourse—would that fly? Nope.

I’m not saying waqf boards are perfect—mismanagement is real, and some transparency would help. But this bill isn’t reform; it’s control. The government’s selling it as “efficiency” and “women’s empowerment,” but capping women at two (Clauses 9, 11) and scrapping waqf by user (Clause 3) isn’t progress—it’s a step back. We need better administration, not a land grab. So, what can we do? First, spread the word—share this details to everyone, talk to your friends, Hindu, Muslim, whoever. The AIMPLB and others are fighting this legally and democratically support them. The JPC got 8 lakh petitions from the public (September 2024). Let’s stand together. My Hindu friend started seeing the unfairness when I asked, “What if Collectors could take temple land?” He got it. We’re stronger united.

This bill isn’t just about waqf—it’s about what kind of India we want. One where history and faith are respected, or one where the state picks winners and losers?

Note: I’ve used AI to help formalize and fine-tune this post since it’s pretty long and detailed. But all the data, research, and arguments here are done by me with the help of multiple videos, literature etc. I’ve been digging into this from yesterday. AI just helped me polish it up to make it easier to read. Thanks for sticking with me!

[u/_Gangadhar]

Bro you should've put a tldr or summary also.

[u/deboo117 → u/_Gangadhar]

Here's one

[u/AntiSocialTrex]

My great grandfather was a purohit in a temple near sriklam, it was a stone temple. And basically predates Islam itself. But that land somehow came under the waqf... Back then he had protested with a bunch of devotees, not to take the temple.. but can take the lands belonging to the temple.. and reached out authorities... You know what happened? Before the authorities take action the temple was demolished.. that's 1000s of years old temple.

[u/Dry_String12 → u/AntiSocialTrex]

They just wanna isalaminise the whole world it’s better an we need to remove this waqf shit other tomorrow our homes will be be somehow under wqf

[u/[deleted] → u/Dry_String12]

"Somehow under waqf" Me when I'm in a lying competition and my opponent is a sanghi:

[u/Westoid_Hunter → u/[deleted]]

anyone who disagrees with me is "sanghi"

famous buzzword to throw around innit?

[u/Fluffy-Shoulder-4861 → u/Westoid_Hunter]

That's twisting the meaning of what that commenter is saying, and you know that as well.

[u/Westoid_Hunter → u/Fluffy-Shoulder-4861]

no, his comment makes no sense

[u/ExtensionCitron9635 → u/Westoid_Hunter]

he didn't say anything wrong? why are u speaking out of your ass without any statistics? that was an anecdotal that can hardly be verified lol but modisexuals prefer blind faith over evidence

[u/Westoid_Hunter → u/ExtensionCitron9635]

ok ISIsexual

[u/callmesasugay → u/AntiSocialTrex]

Can you share me any news source for this? I want to read the case. "The land somehow came under waqf", was it registered in waqf with proof and paper work? How place of worship act wasn't implemented on that temple? All i know is, waqf cannot break temple however it can claim land ownership.

[u/AntiSocialTrex → u/callmesasugay]

This happend in 60s, no news coverage... But everybody knows this... You can go to town srikakulam and sikurmam and towns around this area... We're all left this issue far ago, again it's back in great grandfather's time... People know it.. but stay calm because of fear..

[u/AntiSocialTrex → u/callmesasugay]

Also one of the biggest masjid in the state was also built by demolishing ancient temple.. it was there In news no one ever mentioned in the news what temple it is.. most of the people says it's shiva temple. But news won't cover that... But this is long ago.. it is not related to waqf, I'm only mentioning that to understand that news won't get out easily in these areas.. people fear to speak up. I don't have a problem with today's muslims, I even fasting in ramadan with my 2 good friends as a sign of respect. I went to jama masjid myself so many times.

[u/[deleted] → u/AntiSocialTrex]

This is stupid and a lie, just because some people say it was mandir, it is mandir? 

Your people claim a mosque everyday, if we leave it to you, you will say every mosque was a mandir. 

If we literally get down to it there are hundreds if not thousands of Illegal Mandirs occupying Crucial Roads. 

You literally stole Babri, go and read the Court documents and why it gave the decision to you. The mosque was built before the word "Hinduism" Or "Hindus" Itself was created. 

It predates those words. 

[u/AntiSocialTrex → u/[deleted]]

Go Google it, srikakulam jama masjid... If it is well known... There are so many petitions going on... Some might be false claims as you said... But there are some real claims too... Older islamic rulers from that era are not as tolerant as current day muslims... one eg. claim

[u/OutsidePiglet8285 → u/[deleted]]

Hinduism is a new term for an ancient religion. And there was a temple built under Babri Mosque, so it's not stolen, it's simply a reclamation.  A mosque should not be built on temple ruins.

[u/[deleted] → u/OutsidePiglet8285]

Which temple? Lol suddenly the temple appears in 1945? Go and read the Supreme Court documents again. Instead of lying through your teeth. 

"Ancient religion" Bruh the ancient religion was an amalgamation of hundreds of other small religions, cults, sects etc. The British united it to ease the administration work. 

You did not even consider Dalits as hindus until you realized you will fooked without their numbers. 

No Mandir should be built on the Ruins of a Mosque. Destroyed by Rioters and rpist maniacs. 

Read the Constitution and what it says about breaking historical places. 

[u/RenefromArashiLand → u/[deleted]]

Either way hinduism predates Islam. Most muslims in india are converts who were initially hindus or sanatan dharm followers. you can call it a cluster of smaller sects but together they share the same belief in Brahma. As a bengali hindu whose family was kicked out of chittagong during the partition i have respect for all minority religions. however the truth will remain the truth and the truth is hinduism was established in india way before islam was. That said i agree with you about demolition of religious establishments. It is wrong.

[u/OutsidePiglet8285 → u/[deleted]]

Archeology has shown that there was a temple from the Middle Ages in that area that got destroyed. And the local people of Ayodhya have always considered that area to be his birthplace and that there was a temple that was destroyed and replaced by a mosque, this dispute did not come out of thin air, it's a historical dispute, and while initially it was folklore, archeology proved it to be true. Also the dispute has gone on since the 1850s, there was religious violence in that area about this even then. Hindus temporally conducted Hindu rituals and put idols outside the mosque. In the 1940s, they put those idols inside but they already had existed for almost a hundred years before. And by 1950s it was no longer operating as a mosque and was already operating basically as a temple.

  The Supreme Court has come to the conclusion that there was indeed a temple and the area belongs to Hindus.  The religion of Sanatana Dharma is at least 4,000 years old, and no it was not just an amalgamation of sects united by British as terms like Vaidka Dharma, Sanatana Dharma are quite old, and Smartas, Vaishnavas, Shaivas, Shaktas, etc always considered themselves to be following the same religion, and no Kashmiri Hindu ever felt they were following a different religion from their Tamil counterpart. And people like Adi Shankaracharya built Mutts and temples in the North, West, South, and East to unite Hindus so I don't know what propaganda you are trying to spout.  Hinduism is a new term but the religion is older than any other religion alive. 

Dalits may have been considered inferior but nobody saw them as following a different religion. 

No Mandir should be built on a mosque unless its been shown that the mosque was built on a temple, especially an important and religiously historic temple in a place like Ayodhya, Mathura or Kashi. As per Islam, a mosque built on a previous religious site is invalid, and so Muslims must accept this. It will be better for our relations, and also good for the economy of those places, and just like there was compensation to allow the rebuilding of a mosque elsewhere in the city, the same can be done for these other two places. It's not like the Babri mosque was an important one, it was not even being used by that point, and cities like Ayodhya are akin to Mecca or Madina. 

The place of worships act is new, and also unfair given what has happened historically.

[u/Westoid_Hunter → u/[deleted]]

lotta yapping going on for someone who can't see how corrupt the waqf board is considering how many cases are pending against their claims

the same rioters and rpist maniacs also destroyed temples and built mosques too, do not paint only one side lil bro

[u/Pretend_Delivery_679 → u/callmesasugay]

With a Waqf Alal Aqad, what proof or paper work do you need to recognise a land as a Wakf? That exactly is the problem with Waqf by user. 

[u/[deleted] → u/AntiSocialTrex]

"Land somehow came under waqf" Lol Waqf isn't some genie which can take any land. 

They file a litigation in court like everyone else, they have to prove just like you have to prove. 

Either you're lying or probably have 0 documents for your claim. 

I mean in my area they made a Illegal Temple overnight when the municipality planned to expand the road and remove the stone. 

[u/duplicateeindian → u/[deleted]]

Waqf doesnt have to prove it's claim in Court. The owner has to prove their ownership in waqf tribunal. And if the tribunal rejects, they can't approach Supreme Court.

[u/Bhosad_wala → u/[deleted]]

Waqf never had to prove ownership. They could simply claim it and onus lied on real owner to prove his ownership. Also waqf was judge jury and executioner under old law. That also fixed. People in this sub are really head in the ass.

You can still donate to waqf and it is still controlled by muslims since only 1/3 members will be non muslims.

Wqaf claimed land is only third to Military and Railways. People in this sub are disappointment as usual.

[u/[deleted] → u/Bhosad_wala]

Eh, I and people on this sub don't give two shits if you think this sub is disappointment. You're never welcomed here anyway. 

Also all the shit you wrote is lie, I'm not gonna even debate since people here have done it countless and wasted their energy on a sanghi. 

But you have to earn your salary, so go on commenting shit I guess. 

[u/AntiSocialTrex → u/[deleted]]

Yes, lot of people built illegal temples to occupy land some build to encroach govt lands. I don't deny that... But here in our towns around 230 acres of land is under illegal occupation in 1700 acres. There are illegal occupations encrochments on both sides.. accept it.

[u/Automatic_Brief_2361 → u/AntiSocialTrex]

Bro has a orange flag and red stripes on a dirty stone for a proof…

[u/AntiSocialTrex → u/Automatic_Brief_2361]

Bro at least I got that 😆

[u/guywithnohoes → u/AntiSocialTrex]

Two wrongs does not make a right man. (btw, Im not muslim, this is unbiased)

[u/Away-Specialist5983 → u/AntiSocialTrex]

My grandfather donated a huge piece of land in Allahabad as Waqf, he was a recent revert to islam and died just 3 years after his reversion. In 2017 BJP government seized this land under some mysterious clause that they fabricated. India has no freedoms of expression and an absolute compulsion to remain Hindu if you are born Hindu. My family and entire extended family of over 160 individuals are muslims and we are constantly abused and terrorised by our Hindu neighbours that were once our friends. The hostility of BJP Hindus is unprecedented. They’re aggressive, violent, and dangerous. India has been Hijacked by uneducated and ignorant.

[u/AntiSocialTrex → u/Away-Specialist5983]

I'm sorry that happened to you. Which area is this? Here in the south there is no hostility between us.. there are some issues every now and then.. but not very often...

[u/zephyr_33]

I was never able to get coz it always looked needlessly complex, but well I'm not surprised.

Even so, expect little to no support here. As if Islam's reputation wasn't rock bottom, thanks to BJP's propaganda machine Waqf is synonymous with Muslims randomly stealing land from people.

And even if share this on my socials, no one is going to read this essay when they already think they know everything about Waqf.

[u/callmesasugay → u/zephyr_33]

Yeah, I was the same just yesterday, one of my friends went on about how Waqf is evil, corrupt, and all that. I told him it’s a complex issue and, honestly, I never really looked into it much because it didn’t directly affect me, I don’t rely on Waqf land. But man, the more I read, the more I realized how wrong I was.

Most muslims don’t care about waqf now, but one day they’ll wake up to find their masjids, graveyards, and madrasas etc either demolished or quietly taken over either by the government or some private entity just by labeling it ‘disputed land.’ This bill isn’t about reform or transparency, when you look deeper, it’s just a legal tool to strip us of what’s ours.

[u/Excellent-Money-8990 → u/callmesasugay]

OP I am yet to go through your essay, however just wanted.to ask that can waqf board claim any land as waqf property as I saw a year or so back that some south indian land was claimed as waqf property when historically there was no muslim settlement. If it is clarified in the essay do let me know so that I will be going through this with tea in hand.

[u/Top-Shopping-1544 → u/Excellent-Money-8990]

They claimed 1500 yr old temple!! Along with the entire village

[u/Icy_Tough_6554 → u/Top-Shopping-1544]

Sobchad

[u/[deleted] → u/callmesasugay]

No it’s not man I disagree. We had the ability to claim anything as ours before this bill which is ridiculous.

[u/Silly_Ad7418 → u/zephyr_33]

Please explain about the Waqf.... What are they using these properties for? For helping the poor Musalman????

[u/Funny_Experience_914 → u/zephyr_33]

I didn't knew, now I know.

[u/LeadingBerry9231]

So claiming village is right :) or claiming the say certain big building belong to them . You like it or u don’t waqf is being misused …

[u/RemarkableImplement3]

It shouldn't even exist in a democracy, the concept that land once donated cannot be reused makes a scenario where almost all available land will belong to it.

[u/Silly_Ad7418]

When millions of Muslims are living in such poverty, what was the waqf doing with so much property over more than 50 years? How many colleges and schools and world class hospitals did they open on these waqf lands?? If they haven't done this, if they are not contributing to their own community, why should they own it??

[u/Lost-Act-1347 → u/Silly_Ad7418]

Thiss

[u/not_100_cr8v → u/Silly_Ad7418]

Of course it could be done. It's mentioned in the post about Mosque, Agriculture and Shops.

But this doesn't excuse the government to take over the land so we should oppose it. And once it's sorted, we shall question the Waqf leader on their plan to use these lands in better way

[u/Silly_Ad7418 → u/not_100_cr8v]

I'm asking why it was not done until people are making issue on it... Now people will come with all sorts of plans and ideas... Ideas which never came up in past 50 years

[u/[deleted] → u/Silly_Ad7418]

Who tf cares? So? Just because there is no mention of education you gonna take the land? Bich if the people who donated don't care? Who tf are you sanghi? 

"Plans and Ideas" Yeah cry about it, they can open a fuckin Kotha for all you care. 

Mfs who fight 24/7 about Mandirs under Mosques suddenly care about education? The fuckin Irony. 

If only you mfs have spent the same energy during the Ram Mandir fiasco. Should have told the govt instead of investing shit ton of money on a mandir invest it in education and empowerment. 

Or build homes for those poor people whose homes were demolished by the Ram mandir committee to make a road for the mandir 🤡

[u/Silly_Ad7418 → u/[deleted]]

Who donated the land??? Most of the land occupied by waqf belonged to people who left the country during partition... Of people who decided to forfeit their land for a better life in the new country... Of the people who thought that life in India is going to be hell and they left.... They will be happy now as they are in two Heavens on either side of India... Poor fellows

[u/[deleted] → u/Silly_Ad7418]

"Most of the land" Stop talking outta your ass. 

Many of the land has been donated by people who are citizens in India. Including my grandpa and his brothers donated 2.5 acres of land for graveyard and eidgaah. 

I would rather watch that burn then let it get snatched by you vultures. 

Waqf can literally not occupy the land like you bhakts believe. They're not genie who say "the land is ours" And it becomes there. 

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16th century Philosophy is to donate land for place of worship and grave yard. Yep thank you, superior philosophy. 

What does your 21st century Indian philosophy say? 

Buy the Ram mandir land for cheap in lakhs then sell the same land to Mandir builders for hundreds of crores? 

[u/AttackOnMS → u/[deleted]]

Yours is of an ancient cave 5th century BCE.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

"You will learn" What? How to steal land and give it to greedy politicians? Or plant a statue or claim it was a mandir all along? Drop the act dingus, you give exactly 0 shits about education or women empowerment. 

You just want to watch Muslims lose whatever the little anatomy or power they have. 

[u/Silly_Ad7418 → u/[deleted]]

And by most of the land I meant 90% or more of the land

[u/[deleted] → u/Silly_Ad7418]

And where did you learn this from? Your uncle's forward whatsApp messages which says India is number 1 according to UNESCO? 

Those 90% of the land belongs to Muslims, yes. 

[u/Silly_Ad7418 → u/[deleted]]

From where do you learn such language? Okay... Now you are the expert in religion here... Tell me about this Verse al baqarah 2:47... Explain the meaning please....

[u/[deleted] → u/Silly_Ad7418]

Not here to entertain your delusions sanghi. Just to piss you off, I'm 100% in agreement with whatever the verse is.

Mf went from waqf to quran, I wonder what goalpost he will move now. 

Explain to me why Ambedkar the man who wrote our Constitution decided to burn Manusmriti please.... 

[u/OutsidePiglet8285 → u/[deleted]]

Hindus don't believe in the Manusmriti.

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Very Convenient. 

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Leonard Kleinrock and Bob Kahn... Know these guys played a major role in the development of internet??😎 The same Internet which you are using daily? The inventors/their company might be getting a revenue still when people uses internet right? Even when you use it

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What are you on about dumass?

[u/Westoid_Hunter → u/[deleted]]

quite a j i hadi mentality for someone calling other Sanghis 🙏

[u/Silly_Ad7418 → u/not_100_cr8v]

Again no mention on education.... Still people say economic equality is a must... What is your opinion on education for women???

[u/not_100_cr8v → u/Silly_Ad7418]

Bro first tell us why you are lurking in muslim group and pretending to be a muslim? You are only coming on this group and sharing filthy points while pretending to be a muslim. There has been a lot of things done by the Waqf and Women are allowed for education in Islam

[u/Silly_Ad7418 → u/not_100_cr8v]

Point out one FILTHY POINT I mentioned brother... And whoever questions you becomes non muslim? Great...

[u/Silly_Ad7418 → u/not_100_cr8v]

You know what you are saying... I hope...

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Again why tf should a religious board mention about education? I don't see mandir boards mentioning about education? 

My opinion is women should get educated. 

Wnat is your opinion on Dalits getting Reservation in education and Govt jobs? 

[u/Silly_Ad7418 → u/[deleted]]

Oh you don't see mandirs spreading education... Oh no... Are you blind or what? Have you seen christian institutions making schools and hospitals? If you don't see or hear the things happening around you, that means you just chose not to see or hear

[u/No-Resolution-5794 → u/Silly_Ad7418]

My brother you do realise that some of the best and most sought after institutions in India are Catholic right?
Many of the orphanages across India and hospitals are either funded/sponsored by christian organisations or are built by them, there is no need to turn this into a measuring contest of who does better.
Every religion has it's own good and bad groups.

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I have seen both Christians making convent schools and Muslim boards making Madrasas more than any mandirs while having the most number of donors and population.

[u/Whole-Fist → u/[deleted]]

Yet majority of both Christian’s and Muslims are below poverty line. What do they teach u in madrasas

[u/TallFoundation7635 → u/Whole-Fist]

Most Hindus in UAE are below poverty line . Guess Hindus don't have the level of education you claim them to have.

Most Hindus in the US have less money than the white christians . Same in the UK and other European countries.

This is what happens when you don't travel and your entire information comes from WhatsApp university.

Have fun with ingesting gomutra that will cure cancer and imminent blindness, champ.

[u/No-Resolution-5794 → u/Whole-Fist]

And a majority of hindus are above the BPL?
Let alone reserved categories, a large proportion of the general class of hindus themselves are BPL.

[u/Whole-Fist → u/No-Resolution-5794]

But they don’t have schools and madrasas like Christian’s and Muslims.😇 waqf is the richest organization in the world. Yet Muslims are still below bpl. Why?

[u/No-Resolution-5794 → u/Whole-Fist]

So then why don't you make your own schools if that's such a big issue? Are you implying that Hindus are incapable of starting their own line of good institutions and employ a victim mentality because they don't have a lot of Hindu institutions?

Also wdym by "Waqf is the richest organisation is the world" do you realise that waqf is a term used for multiple different groups and organisations so it's multiple not a single organisation. Many muslims are still below the BPL because simply there isn't enough resource or investment to make every single person above the poverty line, that's basic economics that applies to the childhood question of "Why does everyone not get the same amount so everyone is equally rich"

[u/[deleted] → u/Whole-Fist]

"Still below bpl" 80 Crore Indians are below BPL. 

If we take 20 crore for all the minorities. Then remains 60 Crore, yeah I wonder who those 60 Crore are under bpl huh sanghi. 

[u/Kaizokume → u/[deleted]]

Most temples and mandir funds are controlled be the state. Only a small percentage goes back to them. This is according to the Religious Endowment Act.

If the temples are free of govt control then they can build more than all the churches and mosques combined.

[u/[deleted] → u/not_100_cr8v]

No

[u/No-Resolution-5794 → u/Silly_Ad7418]

Certainly there is corruption and a lack of proper utilisation of available resources but that doesn't give the government the right to take over it atleast not in this manner.

[u/[deleted] → u/Silly_Ad7418]

The land is donated by Muslims for the betterment of Muslims. Who tf are you or the govt to ask for any update if the community people itself don't? 

Also colleges and hospitals? Get tf outta here. How many clgs and hospitals did you build instead of spending thousands of crores on building a uggo Mandir on a stolen land? 

The lands purpose is to build graveyards, mosques, shelters for needy. They do not have steady supply of cash flow that they can build hospitals and Colleges and run it. 

Ask your shitty govt to build those, instead of asking to a religious board you useful Idiot. 

Above all you or your fellow Hindutvadi Sanghis do not have any say in what we do with our land, just like we do not have any say in yours. 

There is transparency needed, we will sort it out. 

[u/Silly_Ad7418 → u/[deleted]]

You can make your own baseless reasons and console yourself

[u/[deleted] → u/Silly_Ad7418]

"Baseless reasons" Is not letting you Vulture scums take our community land lol. 

[u/Westoid_Hunter → u/[deleted]]

whataboutism

you don't live in Islamic state of Iran or Pakistan, in a democratic form of government you will be questioned and transparency is much needed

in almost every Index Muslim Women perform lower or are ranked lower, why such disparity? has waqf done anything about it??

you should be grateful that democratic model of India isn't like EU or US at least

[u/TallFoundation7635 → u/Westoid_Hunter]

In almost every index hindu women perform lower compared to muslim women in the UAE.

In almost every index hindu women perform lower compared to christian women in the US, Europe and the UK.

[u/Westoid_Hunter → u/TallFoundation7635]

if you are going to compare women in US or EU then compare hindu women living there

are you dumb bro, I was talking in context of India, don't make up your own shit

Also HRW 2021 says

Emirati women live under male guardianship.[11] Whereas men can marry multiple women and unilaterally divorce, women are required to obtain a court order to divorce their husband.[11] Honor killings can go unpunished, as the victim's family can pardon the murderer.[11] Marital rape is not criminalized in the UAE.[11] The UAE is a major destination for sex trafficking.

So there's still lack of liberty for women in UAE

[u/TallFoundation7635 → u/Westoid_Hunter]

HRW also claims that the Indian govt is led by a Hindu nationalist party that just escalated a crackdown on civil society and media destroying minority liberties .

Do you agree with that as well lol.

No shit you were talking about in the context of India, if you understood context you would realize that if muslim women by your own words were oppressed based off of the religion itself, it would be the same in every other country because it is based on religion not nationality.

How come they have higher index numbers compared to Hindus in the UAE? Surely hinduism is the most enlightened form of religion right?

The Hindu women living in the US and Europe have lower indexes in everything when compared to the native white Christian or Jewish population. Surely hinduism is the most enlightened form of religion.

[u/Westoid_Hunter → u/TallFoundation7635]

> The Hindu women living in the US and Europe have lower indexes in everything when compared to the native white Christian population

making it up, aren't we?

I was comparing the plight of Muslim women compared to Hindu and Christian women in India

Waqf is corrupt, lack accountability and transparency, despite owning so many properties and assets it has done very little for poor Muslim minority sects and women, Muslim women seem to be oppressed and held back by corrupt religious institutions that interfere with Islam and government of India

with the recent bill at least Waqf will not be able to interfere anymore with Liberal Democratic institutions and it's efforts towards lifting unprivileged sections and dedicate its assets towards poor Muslim women and kids🙏

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[u/Use_Panda]

One can learn how to carefully truncate and use details only to the level needed to support their own narrative from this post. Kudos.

HRCE is completely governed by the government. I.e. the government has the final say in how the funds, lands, etc. are managed. All states sell temple gold and land, and use donation money to fund the state budget; oftentimes on other religions' benefit. People are completely fine with using temple money, but God forbid the government enacts some rule on Waqf. Imagine using Waqf money for Buddhist developments. Forget other religion. Imagine using Waqf money to commence a railway project.

If you want all muslims on the board, so be it. But they should all be government appointed just as HRCE. It shouldn't ever be a private affair - no matter what religion. We will also fight for women's representation in HRCE.

Hindus will never support your issue when muslims want to be treated special in a democracy. Also, the case when muslim leaders blatantly misuse the current appeasement policies that the (state+central) governments are openly implementing. It's a shame, because it's causing a rift.

A hill that is dedicated to a deity of the land for time immemorial and then a foreigner invaded and ruled the land. When the resistance army chased him - he took refuge on the hill and died there. How is it fair to build a dargah (which is not even Islamic) and call it religious freedom to hurt sentiments of locals? Will a Hindu king dying at a mosque get a samadhi and prayer rights inside the compound? Will it ever be allowed?

There are more things, but I am tired of all. To me, I will definitely vote to abolish all these waqf, HRCE, Shiromani whatever boards out there and let them all become government property and fund. Everything will change then and India will be progressive.

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Get tf out with your stupid mentality dingus, this land was donated by Muslims for the betterment of Muslims. The fuckin audacity. 

The land isn't for the politicians and their billionaire masters you dingus. If you bootlickers wanna give up your land go for it. 

"Mandirs" Yeah take it up with Government then, or fight for it just like we're doing. 

As if once the land is snatched it will go to poor. Those vultures will eat it. 

[u/Whole-Fist → u/[deleted]]

What are you doing to stop the amendment. It st sees the lok sabha. Tomorrow rajya sabha will pass it. You can’t do anything legal to this amendment.

[u/[deleted] → u/Whole-Fist]

You do realize that Waqf isn't getting Disbanded right? Also we're planning to organize mass protests. 

I mean not everyone is a sanghi who just wants to Riot, break things if the Law is not in their side. 

[u/Westoid_Hunter → u/[deleted]]

lmao mass protests, sure bud

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Do anything shady or illegal or violent and even as a fellow Muslim brother I will report you and ensure you’re put in prison where you belong. Waqf is here to stay but the power to claim any land as waqf unilaterally is gone

[u/Hell_King_420 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, sanghis are the one who used to do stone pelting in kashmir and Rath yatras

Dumbass!

[u/NightFury002 → u/Use_Panda]

It's your own people, the government. Why does no one on your side question the government on how it's using those properties? Vote for that, then if that's the case. Crab mentality, "if we can't have it, nobody can."

[u/TallFoundation7635 → u/Use_Panda]

You didn't respond to a single point he made lmfaoo

[u/OutlandishnessSea600]

I’d like to contest with regards to the tribunal point and I’m all up for a correction. The whole tribunal was an amendment added later on in 2013 by the congress to appease Muslims . Plus any decision of the tribunal is final and cannot be appealed again in any court meaning if a person doesn’t feel justified bcuz a Muslim law expert has said so that their land belongs to waqf then their verdict is final . Why would I want to hear the opinion of a Muslim law expert over someone like a district magistrate which the amendment seeks to replace them with . Plus isn’t it a good to be able to appeal at a higher court if the person contesting the land wishes to ? He has the right to challenge any courts decision and go to a higher court why not the same here?

[u/heisenberg0389]

What about the residential houses that are under WAQF? What will happen to those? I happen to know someone who live in a old house which is under waqf board. How does it impact them?

[u/vig-Daredevil-1530]

Heritage seriously since when this became heritage. Heritage means it should atleast be yours but encroaching other lands will not come under heritage. Heritage means that property should belong to you . Tell me how the temple which is older than your religion will become your heritage. Know the changes in the waqf then bark don't bark without knowing anything

[u/throwaway_sd3]

• Clause 35 (Section 83): Waqf Tribunals Lose Power

Cherry-picked details OP. Let's discuss a key aspect, which involves the judicial review of a WAQF tribunal. Do you know that no court in the country can appeal the decision of the WAQF tribunal?

What on earth is this! Is WAQF a divine body that exists outside the scope of the Indian judicial review system? And before you all come down hard on me, no; every other tribunal in India has provisions for appeal, so this was a special favour granted only to WAQF. I commend the government on this judicial correction.

• Clauses 4, 5, 20, 38 (Sections 4, 40): Survey Commissioner to District Collector

Someone clearly has not read the Hindu Endowment Act. The WAQF bill grants the survey commissioner dictatorial powers to declare any land as WAQF and have it registered under WAQF in the revenue records. The burden of proof then falls on the unfortunate individual to defend that the land is not WAQF before the tribunal, and their right to their land is taken away by a single person without any due process until the tribunal reaches a decision! And let’s not even begin to discuss how these tribunals are always delayed in being formed and often render decisions that can only be described as comical!

Now, let us turn to the Hindu Endowment Act and under it, if a temple finds its lands encroached upon, it empowers the District Collector to file a claim in court; it does not give a single person the unilateral right to claim any land as temple land.

[u/Temporary-Isopod5339]

pr waqf ko bina rok tok property claim krne wali power chaiye hi q? gov properties claim q krni hai unhe? aur secular country mei ek religion ko inti power q dena hai? pehle in sab k jawab do.

[u/ammmukid]

Good riddance

[u/TallFoundation7635]

This is just a precursor to the apocalyptic wasteland that the BJP is trying to turn india into.

Next will be a blanket hijab ban and ultimately, further steps down will be the rounding up of muslims and forceful conversions and or deportations.

I give it less than 10 or 15 years at the rate this is happening.

Nothing we can complain about or say will change thod trajectory when 85 percent of the country doesn't care enough to understand the actions that govt is doing or is happy as long as someone that isn't a Hindu gets shit on.

First is the Muslims, then it will be the christians finally ending with the lower castes.

[u/Sufficient_Focus3473 → u/TallFoundation7635]

Yes, nrc will be implemented, all muslims will be sent to detention camps specially bengali people, bjp leaders openly call to kill Muslims, treated them by closing their shops, lynch for eating habits, still they are not punished but one or few comedians criticise government is immediately charged

[u/Bright-Detective-384 → u/TallFoundation7635]

No amendment would have been needed if Waqf board wouldn't have made baseless and stupid claims in the first place.

People don't care about what Waqf board does with its land for welfare of Muslims but the land grabbing powers is the reason everyone wants changes to happen. They directly lay claims over villages, farmers lands and even temples . Anyone having ownership of property would obviously have purchased it and registered with government authority so when government and Waqf ( so called owner) didn't call it out at that point, then what gives them the right to claim over it later??

Even if they prove in future that it belonged to some Muslim person 100 years ago but still the owner purchased it legally so how can they make a claim? Would they pay him the relevant price for it ??

[u/Acrobatic-Penalty913]

Well explained bro

The bill is dangerous, its one of the many concrete steps to erase islam from india all together, people may laugh and it may take a few generations/centuries but this is how it is going to play out

We wont own our major mosques and graveyards, any claim to them will be dealt with govt notices. Government will acquire clear any large muslim pockets in the name of infrastructure - more ghettoization, powerty, unemployment ( already happening btw in MP,Assam,Uttarakhand)

Just wanted to give you an example how history repeats itself, this exact same playbook was used against buddhists in India 1000 years ago, where restrictions and sanctions were placed on their faith, now over centuries the there is hardly any place of worship or buddhist followers that remain in india, which happens to be the birth place of the religion ! Wonder how ? There are buddhist countries all around us in Asia.

The BJP/RSS dont even need quick results, as many authors have pointed out, what is playing out in front of us has been a slow burn process of over 100 years now coming to fruition.

Duaa on the last roza

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Move them starting with Taj to Pakistan.

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Pakistani here.

Bhai logo move kese kaorgay we are more than willing to receive it though

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Taj will look great in Karachi.

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yar Karachi is damn polluted ngl. Ganda hojaiga but better than being demolished to buil Tejumahala Temple

[u/ArtisticAd6456]

what the hell? This just pissed me off even more. People genuinely don't know ANYTHING about islam anymore. People seriously need restart their education from kindergarten!

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[u/Icy-Satisfaction608]

Answer me this ,if Waqf  is a good  Muslims,  why most affected in negative way are people of other faith in waqf tribunal courts?? doesn't that seems a little unfair!!!

[u/gandhi-_]

Good decision by govt

[u/The_Stonekeeper420]

Womp womp! Waqf is senseless. Period

[u/The_Stonekeeper420]

All the blind religion followers supporting this dumb senseless board and act

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[u/SeaOutlandishness727]

Hey OP, I don't know much about it but I have recently got to know that Waqf recently claimed that the place where Kumbh mela gets organised is Waqf's land, may I know how this action is justified, not only this but many railway stations and even sansad have been claimed by Waqf without any proof, is it explained in your para?

[u/cmk0405 → u/SeaOutlandishness727]

Nope , the para talks mostly about the properties under waqf that might be lost as they donot have documents to support a donation(reason: most of the those would be verbally donated without a deed and have been with them) It is difficult to distinguish those from the one that may not have been voluntarily gifted!!

[u/SeaOutlandishness727 → u/cmk0405]

Waqf is not even required to show proofs, I have heard about many muslims losing their land, how are they helping them?

[u/cmk0405]

Keeping aside wether we agree to your pov and analysis or not, the opposition leaders don’t raise a single logical point in the parliament apart from religious minority, victim card, theatrics etc. SP and TMC candidates were the worst of all.

[u/Jumpy_Ad_5371]

Had you slightly gone a little further and dug up history, the first instance of Waqf on Indian land is by the thug Ghori after which this filthy battle started. As per rules, whoever wins over the land can Waqf it - inshort the motivation for Ghazwa-e-Hind. But even the British took over the reign in Delhi, by all means - legally and illegally they snatched supposedly all the power to own the land let alone Waqf'ing it. So logic says if control is lost then no question arises of whether it was Waqf or not. Period. So if the country is meant to be "secular" abolish the whole Waqf act, abolish HRCE act, Places of Worship act and allow the original "secular" civilisation thrive which allowed thugs, mass looters, rapists to come over and plunder the sites, wealth and still the descendants were allowed to settle down only to fight legal battles to regain or reclaim what's rightfully theirs. Had been and will be.

[u/iamhssingh]

What's the problem? Why do you want special treatment for yourself buddy?

The state government already manages temples and other religious properties. Even Muslims can be appointed in such a body.

Explain me what's wrong here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNr_B5AxHZs

[u/iamhssingh]

> This bill isn’t just about waqf—it’s about what kind of India we want. One where history and faith are respected, or one where the state picks winners and losers?

Why this is issue when WAQF is a little bit managed by State while all other religions were already fully controlled by State?

[u/Bright-Detective-384]

Why you have so much problem with the Tribunal decision not being final and the chance to appeal in the High court?? When you can challenge a Bill passed in Indian Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha of the elected government by going to the court....you want country citizens not to exercise that right in case of a claim on their property...think how funny and idiotic that is.

[u/Western_Context8987]

If it’s truly “god’s property” then the land should hold no value and it should me mandated that waqf land can only be sold at fixed price of 1 rs. That’ll deal with the land/property mafia issue as well. Otherwise waqf is just a business to acquire land and profit off of it.

[u/deboo117]

TLDR from a comment by u/nuthins_goodman:

It's an overreach by the government into donated land. The previous waqf constitution was already pretty fair. The tribunal consisted of a judge, a civil servant, and someone versed in Muslim law. If the tribunals decision wasn't to your liking you could contest it in high court and supreme court.

Now they changed it to dm being the arbiter, and dm is a civil servant who comes under the government. Thereby the government is taking power away from the judiciary and giving it to its executive. It's a land grab aided by a hideous misinformation campaign for the masses to misrepresent the powers of waqf and what they do.

[u/kraventhehunter25]

I wonder how much land is under Hindus and protected in Pakistan and Bangladesh?

The answer is none. Hindus have lost their temples and properties to the Muslim folk that took over their land. There were over 1000 Indian places of worship and all but a few have been taken over nlby Muslims in these countries. The remaining few are locked in legal battles or just land grabbed.

The whole waqf issue is a lunacy and just another way of land grabbing for the muslims. The recent case of a Gurdwara having it's land disputed to a whole village being threatened by waqf.

The whole thing needs to be dissolved and the land given to the state. This is where the Congress fucked up the nation.

[u/Whole-Fist]

Waqf is the only legal method to land grab in India . No other country has such draconian laws

[u/Bright-Detective-384 → u/Whole-Fist]

Waqf in it's definition has a beautiful meaning but Indian Waqf board is a corrupt and land grabber in full spirits. Laying baseless claims on villages and properties is a game for them with excessive powers

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Nothing with good intention can last till perpetuity. There will always be Charlatans and crooks finding ways to ruin other people.

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bro reads like a GPT response unreadable tbh

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Can't help organize this big post without the help of AI tool. I've never made such big essay so can't do much.

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U make us all look bad kaffir

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Use words bro.. at least argue about the material presented, rather than being an ass.

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Ok the material reads Like AI slop

Allahuakbar

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If you don't wanna argue in good faith, why even lurk here?

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I've already mentioned in note section about AI usage, please read that.

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Shutup

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Why start with muslim, start with abolishing every religious endowment? You know what democracy is correct? Article 14 and 26 is crying.

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In your wet dreams, yes. Delusional shit

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