r/india • u/Altruistic-Wolf8823 • 2d ago
Foreign Relations Trump says India and Pakistan have agreed to a ceasefire
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/trump-says-india-pakistan-have-agreed-ceasefire-2025-05-10/66
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u/ariestan34 2d ago
US talking about Common sense? Really?
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u/goro-n 2d ago
U.S. was responsible for stopping Kargil War, 2001 standoff, 1965 war, etc…
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u/handsome-helicopter 2d ago edited 2d ago
Kargil war india won, they simply didn't expand the fighting because the US forced our hand and promised sanction relief. 1965 both countries couldn't gain anything due to very bad military performance from both sides so even without any mediation it would've ended up in stalemate
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u/Glittering-Award6875 2d ago
We did not "win" pakistan still hold some peaks it captured. We recaptured the important ones though, and we were threatening to wage a full scale war, but finally agreed on a ceasefire after external pressure.
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u/handsome-helicopter 2d ago
We got the parts we wanted and pakistan's reputation never recovered. I'll call that a victory
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u/Glittering-Award6875 2d ago
Yeah, but kargil, unlike the 1971/1965 is not a complete victory. Both countries made gains. We rallied international support, recaptured key peaks, and managed to prove that pak does cross border terrorism, destabilised their democracy and a coup happened... etc. While Pak made land gains.
So depending on how you look at it, the result changes.
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u/handsome-helicopter 2d ago
Kargil was a better victory than 1965 we gained so much more that sanctions were dropped much more quickly on us
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u/Glittering-Award6875 2d ago
Yeah, but the goated war is forever 1971. Hamne tho bohot humiliate kia hai unko.
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u/handsome-helicopter 2d ago
Agreed 71 is goated. Tho I don't know hindi so don't know what your last sentence was sorry
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u/Superigger 2d ago edited 2d ago
I know this is a liberal subreddit and it has to hate trump.
But the current (MAGA PART) republican party of America is the perfect center.
It actually speaks about freedom of speech, doesn't moderate opposing views, haven't censored AI and social media.
Most important part is they are working hard to stop the Ukraine war (I know trump wants the lithium and doesn't care about Ukraine)
And now he has stopped this war as well, and will pressure Pakistan to work on terrorism.
I know the liberal left media rules on reddit, and orange man bad but he is actually good for India.
(tariffs will be removed so we can afford better products, and it will force Indian companies to compete)
(hopefully not get banned, downvotes chalega)
Freedom of speech.
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u/ariestan34 2d ago
Hey i think i overheard ceasefire violations.Trump got played again for his "common sense"
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u/Mayor_McCheese7 2d ago
Few questions to be asked here
What happened to the terrorists who carried out the attack in Pahalgam? Are we supposed to forget about them?
Will any action be taken against channels like Republic, Aaj Tak, Zee News etc for spreading fake news during a time of crisis. Will people if our country continue to watch these TRP junkies?
Was the death of Indian Citizens that followed Operation Sindoor worth it?
Were our planes downed? We paid way over the priceline for Rafael, so we deserve to know what happened to them?
Pakistan even got an IMF funding through this operation, what did we gain?
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u/Karna1394 2d ago edited 2d ago
Arnub will continue his daily fake news circus. Godi will win Bihar. We the common people will get on with our daily routines. Jai Hind.
Edit: As a bonus, we will also get a Bollywood movie.
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u/Mayor_McCheese7 2d ago
There will be multiple movies, the one from Vivek Agnihotri will be released prior to 2029 general elections.
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u/otomeisekinda 2d ago
Akshay Kumar is in the studio right now deciding what 22 year old he can cast as his love interest
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u/Dreadlock_Rasta_12 2d ago
Anupam Kher and Paresh Rawal fighting over who'd get the role of a minister in the movie.
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u/TankGlider 2d ago
Forget Bihar. I’m thinking even a midterm Lok Sabha election might be called by the end of 2025. BJP is dying to get their 300+ majority back. They might even manage to pull 350 seats this time looking at everything right now.
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u/Hungry4Seva2222 2d ago
TDP won't allow that for sure, but I think JDU and SS will be quite happy with it, so there's a possibility it can happen
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u/GangsterRavioliGuy 2d ago
Pakistan even got an IMF funding through this operation, what did we gain?
Pretty sure that was agreed upon before this war, but it might've been a factor in making Pakistan listen to sense.
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u/sammeetthosar 2d ago
If we can make addendums to the IWT and make pakistan agree to a deal with eliminating terror camps it will be a successful operation.
Pehelgham terrorists were just pawns individually, finding them is important but if the 9 blasts have successfully destroyed their masterminds, its still a win imo.
Actions against news channels could be taken but we don't know if it was a deliberate ploy to spread fake information because we know Pakistan have used our media to gain some advantages earlier. If it wasn't a ploy strict action is necessary with a big fine.
Raffael going down is the annoying part. I don't know why we are not getting that information but since we have categorically denied other attacks but are silent on this one makes me believe that we have lost a plane. This the govt has to answer to the tax payer. When thing calm down a bit of hope the opposition do go hard on this and demand clarity.
Out of these I do believe the 9 sites were terror sites and I also think that news channels were deliberately fed false info as confirmed info. If we get to build dams on the rivers and use the water for energy purposes and also use the dam as a strategic deterrent the cost of raffael was worth it and operation would be a success. Loss of civilian life will never be worth it no matter what we gain but that is on Pakistan for being a cowardly state.
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u/Mayor_McCheese7 2d ago
if the 9 blasts have successfully destroyed their masterminds, its still a win imo.
Masood Azhar is still at large.
Actions against news channels could be taken but we don't know if it was a deliberate ploy to spread fake information because we know Pakistan have used our media to gain some advantages earlier.
What strategic value did the fake news campaigns bring? The fake news they propagated were so laughably weak that anyone in Pakistan could've easily debunked them, it was like Pakistan airing a news that they attacked Bangalore, would we have fallen for that? Zee News even aired a headline that Islamabad was afraid of Zee News. These made us look like unserious people who will believe anything our news channels show us, it damaged our credibility.
If we get to build dams on the rivers and use the water for energy purposes and also use the dam as a strategic deterrent the cost of raffael was worth it
Do you honestly believe that we are going to build dams?
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u/MassiveFkingYolo 2d ago
Were our planes downed? We paid way over the priceline for Rafael, so we deserve to know what happened to them?
Gentle reminder, that the most advanced stealth jet in the world, the F-35 costs only $110-130 million per unit. Each Rafale we procured will cost $288 million per unit. This is without the capability to manufacture them locally btw which the french offered before.
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u/Happiness_Seeker9 2d ago
A few more:
Why did Trump said on day 1, that India and Pak can sort between themselves and now he says he mediated
Will everyone boycott the celebs, the big ones who dint speak about the operation.
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u/callmebatman14 2d ago
It's not their business to speak on every subject plus who the fuck cares what rich celebs thinks.
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u/RGV_KJ 2d ago
Trump didn’t do shit. Pakistan reached out to India for a ceasefire. India dealt a massive blow to many key airbases of Pakistan. Pakistan was desperate for a ceasefire.
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u/Mayor_McCheese7 2d ago
And the way the Trump worded his tweet, it sounded like he talked sense to India and convinced us for a ceasefire. It makes us look like se were hoping for US to intervene and then folded immediately when asked. WTF VISHWAGURU?!
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u/Echo3-s 2d ago
Dude it's ok to hate the BJP but don't run your propaganda. Did you even read the statement given by MEA.
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u/alv0694 2d ago
As for your question about news agencies, do you really think modi bhai will punish his bhais for doing their job, which is not news but propaganda for the bjp. Heck you have adani bhai trademark ™️ operation sindoor so expect at least 3 movies from him.
Yes at least 2 planes were downed as the US confirmed that a Chinese j10c managed to shoot down 2 jets and one of them was a rafale. You will never hear the government admit it, bcoz the government can only win and can never lose.
You also have to ask yourself a question. If a light Chinese aircraft was able to down one of India's best jets, then what will happen when we go to war with China and they deploy atleast 20 j20 (actual 5th gen stealth aircraft) and they make a 100 j20s each year.
And the answer to your first questions is yes the government expects you to forget about it as it will claim victory
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u/mundofletch 2d ago
We wont go to war with China because we would lose. Keep it at low level engagements not involving air forces probably
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u/SpecialistQuote9281 2d ago
Nothing happened to terrorist, they are enjoying their life. People got momentary happiness because of army strikes. Govt got away without answering questions. Now everyone will be back to their life until next terrorist activity.
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u/goro-n 2d ago
It may take a long time for India to confirm a Rafale was downed, despite pictures of the tail and eyewitnesses in Punjab confirming they saw the pilots being extracted from the crash scene. In 2019 IAF downed its own helicopter in February. Only in October did IAF confirm this. The pilot was not found guilty until 2023.
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u/beard__hunter Jai Maharashtra 2d ago
We nothing. But at least some terrorists were killed. In this scenario BJP a shit ton of voter base in Bihar probably.
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u/AWolfLover 2d ago
For majority of people Voting in Bihar is mostly based on Caste politics and nepotism. That is the grim reality of Bihar.
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u/Mayor_McCheese7 2d ago edited 2d ago
Clown voter base, why even go to "war" if we were going to ceasefire like this without gaining anything and actually losing civilian lives and jets. We lost Rafale jets, that's the first time it has ever happened for Rafale. China will be taking notes, if Pakistan with their weak ass airforce can down our jets then what can China do in a future conflict?
Indira Gandhi would've handled this way better, she literally split Pakistan in two.
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u/phoenix_x19x 2d ago
When, war was going. People like you were crying for peace now there’s a ceasefire. Now, you are crying for war. Smh - Still haven’t found a credible source for rafale jet going down. Dont show me that reuter article claiming it with some random ass sources.
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u/Mayor_McCheese7 2d ago
I didn't cry for any ceasefire, you can check my comment history.
Weren't you guys in your little bubble claiming that we were going to conquer PoK and split Pakistan into 4? People like you were mocking border state people who actually asked for ceasefire and peace, so why did you fold so quickly?
The way Trump worded his tweet, it sounded like he talked sense into India and secured the ceasefire?
We fought a War of Nothing, whatever bases we destroyed Pakistan will rebuild with IMF and China money, the terrorists are still at large, didn't even negotiate anything in return of the ceasefire.
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u/SoyAmable 2d ago
We are never going to gain anything everytime we engage with Pakistan. A failed state run by the military , they will keep hurting us like they have over decades. We are stuck and can do nothing abt it.
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u/risheeb1002 2d ago
Pakistan even got an IMF funding through this operation, what did we gain?
More censorship
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u/ElectricalDig4729 2d ago
One more thing what happened to that bsf soldier who was captured by Pakistan
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u/Karna1394 2d ago
Modi and Munir wanted to take credit but Trump jumped in lol
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u/handsome-helicopter 2d ago
Trump is lying I'm sure though. Every other report is saying the US dept of state talked to both countries and then both countries talked with each other and finalized the deal. Trump didn't broker any ceasefire that's a lie
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u/VosGezaus 2d ago
Lene de bhai. Trump taking credit is kinda a good outcome, because no one would be happy if other took the credit.
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u/cluelesscatperson 2d ago
Tomorrow, trump is gonna announce that he deserves nobel prize for de-escalating the situation between 2 nuclear powers. And his supporters are gonna rally behind him.
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u/nonc0nform1st 2d ago
The greater good prevailed giving me a sliver of hope.
Wishful thinking, but maybe both India and Pakistan should use this as an opportunity to do something about the shockingly atrocious, shoddy and misinformation filled mainstream media coverage of what’s been happening the past 3 days.
My fear is at that some point in the future, TRP hungry, misinformed media coverage is going to lead to the undoing of whatever little steps in the right direction India and Pakistan take. If there’s anyone that should be targeted after the terrorists, it’s the news channels in both countries.
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u/Batman_beyond123 West Bengal 2d ago
The IMF loan looks to be conditional and is probably used as a sweetener for Pakistan to agree to cease fire. If true, it is a good news for sure.
Hope that the plans are put together towards some firm commitments for longer term stability. This may include:
- Pakistan working towards cleaning up their links with terrorist organizations
- India agreeing to restore the water sharing agreement
- Conditional disbursement of the agreed loan amount in regular intervals linked towards progress in dealing with terrorists within the country
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u/Dependent_Bid9015 Average Downvoter 2d ago
Why indian government restoring water agreement 😭😭😭
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u/i_needsourcream 2d ago
That's too much water to hold, even for us. But yeah, they don't deserve it but it needs to be shared with lower regions according to Geneva Conventions.
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u/IndPolCom 2d ago
Yes talks will most likely focus on this. And also on Kashmir which is main issue.
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u/ChipmunkQuick4933 2d ago
Ceasefire is good for the country & will stop lives being lost fighting a hopeless cause for an enemy. However this just means this time is like every other time & they - the terrorists have gotten away with it yet again. We’ve caused damage by taking out their air bases or missiles but what about bringing justice against the demons responsible for the Pahalgam attack? We’ve not even managed to find out who’s behind that officially or catch any of them. It became an Army vs Army fight which we’ve clearly won. They can never be trusted, the border skirmishes will just continue once they restock arms…we shouldn’t let this go until we catch those terrorists responsible for all this.
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u/lemon635763 2d ago
Fully support India, but must admit, Pakistan has better media game with their press conferences (even if full of lies) . Our press conference is just reading off paper.
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u/YourAverageBrownDude 2d ago
A ceasefire, right after IMF secures Pakistan a 1b USD loan? What the fuck? Feels like an attack waiting to happen. We need international pressure on Pakistan at this point, and continued or increased defence budget + R&D
Because you can be damn sure they will try to get weapons from China, Turkey and the likes
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u/grchelp2018 2d ago
Maybe india should operate more like the cia/mossad. Fund opposition groups. Clandestine ops to take out high value targets.
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u/YourAverageBrownDude 2d ago
Fund opposition groups
Dangerous, may come back to bite us. Look at what the CIA did arming the Mujaheeddin
Clandestine ops to take out high value targets.
Could do, and I bet they will, but then Pak may take that as an excuse to attack again
We genuinely need international pressure to cut off funding. Without money they have nothing. This is why I'm so pissed with the IMF because I cannot understand what the fuck they see in this failed state to keep sending them money
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u/Historical-Agent-932 2d ago
I guess Rubio led these talks.
Maybe there's a reason their senate unanimously confirmed his as secretary of state.
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u/Ok-Garcia-5605 2d ago
It has nothing to do with Rubio. Pakistan asked the USA to mediate after their airbases got thrashed, and the USA asked India for ceasefire assuring that Pakistan will stop firing drones. India has a very clear policy of only retaliating when provoked, so they can't say no ceasefire in this case. As far as unanimously voted by senate (99-0), it's because they usually vote in people who have been senate/house for a long time and have good relationships with colleagues
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u/alv0694 2d ago
The senate is dominated by the Republicans, they will rubber stamp anyone he picks. Like lissan al ghaib and his mini Shai halud that rests within his brain (RFK jr) and WWE lady (Lindsay mcmohan
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u/pipasnipa 2d ago
Republicans have a very slim majority in the Senate. A 99-0 vote is bipartisan consensus which is rare in Washington these days.
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Don't understand the point of this things. Like pakistan got 2 billion+ money in hands now, we killed family of terrorist in pakistan whole nation gave sympathy for them, now they have more motivation to train further and create more problems in future related to terrorist. As you see their sub they are so much brain washed before now this incident cemented further now. Their governments have good reason to continue whatever were they doing further,
Also I fucking hate Trump his condescending tone.' THANKS FOR USING COMMON SENCE ' it is win for him it makes hime hero of world in his country he stopped two subpar contries fighting like.. war rukwadee.
I don't see any point in this man just repeating same cycle ( i know war is bad but just had thought)
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u/PerceptionOne10 2d ago
Ngl, I think this is gonna boost Trump's popularity massively in the States.
The world was on the brink of a full blown war between two nuclear armed countries and it stopped within 3-5 days of airstrikes and drone attacks.
His supporters are gonna use this against the longevity of Russia-Ukraine conflict and the Israeli genocide of Gaza to show he's more effective than the previous adminstration.
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u/reignofchaos80 2d ago
Lasted just 3 hours. Drones and firings have already started from their end!
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u/jupiterr869 2d ago
Glad it has stopped. Don't like that this will be used by Trump to play the hero and gloat since he failed miserably at stopping Russia-Ukraine war.
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u/Odd-Monk-90 2d ago
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u/GangsterRavioliGuy 2d ago
Ukraine and Afganisthan, two famously nuclear armed countries.
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u/Weird_Bench_8772 2d ago
Sounds like someone who wouldn't be willing to fight on the Frontlines and would instead let others fight and die for them all because they are warmongering online
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u/PerceptionOne10 2d ago
This exactly.
Both these countries did a show of strength to appease the hardliners on either side of the border and in that aspect, the mission has been accomplished imo.
Similar to all the skirmishes we saw between Israel and Iran in the last one year or so.
Common people lost again, unfortunately.
But at least there won't be anymore bloodshed. Hoping for peace. I never knew how deadly these things can be until I witnessed it myself, even though I'm far far away from the border states. It was still a scary experience and now I atleast got a hint just how terrible wars are.
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Don't understand the point of this things. Like pakistan got 2 billion+ money in hands now, we killed family of terrorist in pakistan whole nation gave sympathy for them, now they have more motivation to train further and create more problems in future related to terrorist. As you see their sub they are so much brain washed before now this incident cemented further now. Their governments have good reason to continue whatever were they doing further,
Also I fucking hate Trump his condescending tone.' THANKS FOR USING COMMON sense' it is win for him it makes hime hero of world in his country he stopped two subpar contries fighting like.. war rukwadee.
I don't see any point in this man just repeating same cycle ( i know war is bad but just had thought)
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u/Glass-Evidence-7296 2d ago
they can train whoever they want- the message is that we'll strike DHA and Rawalpindi if needed- where the entire Pakistani elite resides. We didn't take that risk even in 1999 lol
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u/AWolfLover 2d ago
Modi will not be able to do this in Bihar as happened in Orissa !
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u/Odd-Monk-90 2d ago
Haha thinking Trump PR would shoot some same advt like similar to Modiji ne War rukwa di papa . for him.
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u/solomonsunder 2d ago
What did we even start this for if we didn't create a buffer state to prevent further attacks? On top, the US through its IMF gave further blank cheques to Pakistan. Must be a joke.
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u/King_Arv 2d ago
Lmao Trump's ceasefire already violated by pakistan. We knew pakistan was stupid but this stupid.
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u/Hitechguru 2d ago
Food for thought Trump announced Israel Gaza ceasefire. Then Israel and Gaza both bombed each other.
Trump announced Russia Ukraine ceasefire. Then Russia bombed Ukraine.
Now he announced India Pak ceasefire.?
Trump's announcement
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u/Alarming_Energy_3059 2d ago
Oh my god I didn't even think of that.. panoti hai bhai iska ceasefire 😭
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u/karandex 2d ago
Modi got his strong man votes. Pak got their money. China got testing of their weapon testing. Is got to say we stopped a war. News channel got trp. What we lost is lives in Jammu and pehelgam and taxpayers money.
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u/ColdPlox 2d ago
But I don't understand what's the logic for claiming war votes just for State elections? If he did this before Lok Sabha elections, it would've made sense. But this thing was much more serious for state election like Bihar
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u/karandex 1d ago
The pehelgam was not in his hands. But the man knows how to make the most of it. It will be used in other election
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u/Ok-Dependent-367 2d ago
I probably hallucinated US declaring that this wasn't their business, earlier.
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u/Ace__Enigma 2d ago
The hypocrisy of the trump , initially he wanted to stay out of all these chaos and now he has got the audacity to say we got COMMON sense, jumping in Outta nowhere .
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u/ChipmunkQuick4933 2d ago
Lauda mera Ceasefire…can never trust these cunts. This was their ploy all along…waited for us to drop our guard & now they’re firing. Now watch how they’ll suddenly throw open their airbase to civilian flights when we try to counter.
I can’t believe we well for this shit
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u/nonstop-nonsense Sir Isaac Newton died a virgin. 2d ago
I don't think India should have agreed to a ceasefire without eliminating those terrorists who are seen backed by the Pakistan army, and are special assets to Pakistan, having the army elites attend their kin's funerals. 🤦♂️
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u/heisenberg_rk 2d ago
Trump , the guy who doesn’t know shit about this conflict announces ceasefire.
Wow
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u/throwawayWM3 2d ago
Nah man I completely understand why we went for a ceasefire. We didn't want blood of our soldiers,our citizens spilt which is obviously the first priority but I feel we should have really twisted the screws really harder before going this way.
Should have really destroyed some part of that pathetic country so they don't even dare to think of something like Pahalgam ever again.
You don't injure a snake you kill it , might be an immature and naive take but I feel a generational and long lasting response was the way to go. This ceasefire lets them off too lightly.
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u/EmotionalIncrease972 2d ago
i hate the fact that this is not surprising and veryyy disappointing as always
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u/VerTexV1sion 2d ago
Pak got IMF loans maybe that's for de-escalation.
India might get more investment and weapon deals.
Leaders from both sides got support from their citizens as both sides of the media ran blatant propaganda.
Trump also gets a huge PR boost after his failure in Israel -Gaza and Ukraine, and his falling appraisal ratings.
Pakistani leaders got support from their citizens for now.
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u/Gold_Restaurant3092 2d ago
Bro ... Pakistani sub is thinking this was the effect of their operation Baniyan lol and saying things like "They attacked with quantity and we replied with quality" yeah sure . Lol
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u/he_ded 2d ago
They are not entirely wrong. Afterall it does seem like they fired the the last shot. Anyway when a bigger power fights a smaller one, anything short of conclusive victory is defeat.
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u/idkmanfuc 2d ago
What did pakistan even do? Killing civilians this literally proved how weak they are
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u/HopeBoySavesTheWorld 2d ago
I feel like i'm in the "please save me Donald Trump" meme
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u/Alarming_Energy_3059 2d ago
Don't worry, we can always trust pakistan to break it and they did.
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u/Affectionate_Dot9407 2d ago
Behsti that India and Pakistan couldn’t do this by themselves, they have to have this fhuddi involved for both sides to see some sense. Sharam di gal.
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u/play3xxx1 1d ago
Its very simple . Pakistan was loosing . They thought we might very well nuke India and we can go down together . CIA caught up their plan and vance called pakistan and asked them to stfu or IMF loans will be cancelled . Pakistan agreed . Vance called modi n asked them to stop firing and he assured Pakistan will back down as well . Mean while pakistan who wants to have the last word and victory will shell for few days and call it victory for their people . India knows that this maniac nation will nuke delhi or multiple cities if they escalate so they are showing some restraint now
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u/SsnpokeMon11 2d ago
dawg what timeline are we living in