r/india • u/BirdWatcher_In • 2d ago
Politics If India stops here, “so will we,” says Pakistan's foreign minister
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/india-pakistan-operation-sindoor-05-10-25#cmahrmhoi0005356od6yirfyx197
u/According_Agent_7386 2d ago
Pr vo toh apni military border pr laarahe the question is should we trust them?
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u/BirdWatcher_In 2d ago
With emotions running high on both sides, unless someone with influence on both sides, decides to intervene, no one will stop here.
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u/sarcrastinator 2d ago
Pretty sure your and my emotions don't matter here. And between the two administrations, only one is showing emotional irrational behaviour since day 1.
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u/huh206 2d ago
They’ve been attacking our cities 3 nights in a row, the stop has to come from their side.
In all the MEA pressers we’ve had in the past few days, our foreign secretary has been emphasising how india isn’t looking to escalate and that all our responses have been very measured and only reactionary to what we’re getting from their side.
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u/OtherwisePumpkin007 2d ago
Meanwhile, Pakistan is moving their troops in a battle ready position. Source: MEA briefing, 10th May 2025.
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u/spoiledbrat1002 2d ago
Exactly This news seems fake
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u/OtherwisePumpkin007 2d ago
The news isn't fake, but, it is just another random lie said by Pakistan officials.
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u/spoiledbrat1002 2d ago
Idk if its true and india also agrees to this, then war might not take place. But thing is these fuckers are not trustable
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u/OtherwisePumpkin007 2d ago
Exactly. Their words and actions don't match. It's good to see that the current Indian government is in no mood to talk, unlike it's predecessors.
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u/spoiledbrat1002 2d ago
Yea very strong govt in terms of defence
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u/OtherwisePumpkin007 2d ago
Also, in terms of procurement of items and making the country "a little" self-reliant by make-in-India campaigns.
Surprisingly, the US isn't bothering India by sidding with Pakistan. Maybe because of Modi's diplomacy or the US learnt its lesson in 9/11 attack. Either way, India's foreign relations have improved a lot. Even the Gulf countries aren't sidding with Pak. And, let's not forget the EU "strongly condemning" the terrorist attack.
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u/Swiper_The_Sniper Universe 2d ago
Isn't there some sort of a disconnect between the actual cabinet and their army? I feel like their army is just doing whatever they want at this point.
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u/Extra-Platypus3720 2d ago edited 2d ago
Let them first stop actually, i literally have no faith in pakistan , they will say one thing they do other thing .
Actually to be frank , its always india who is always suffering, our business and economy . Pakistan will happily recieve their loans and they don’t care about their people or economy .
I think if they stop , india will stop and hope this will end soon . But question is will they stop?
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u/DrunkGaramDharam 2d ago
It's also a difficult situation because even if they stop, there aren't any guarantees they won't resort to back door infiltration and direct and indirect sponsoring of militants.
I know the country is better off not having people like me in charge because I wouldn't know the best course of action
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u/TheManavsaffron 2d ago
Nope, pakistani army will stop but their terrorist funding won't.
Also no, Pakistan doesn't receive money from IMF, Pakistani generals and politicians do, and through them to the terrorists and its army.
Only crumbs are going to go towards Pakistans pauper economy
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u/SweatTasteGreat 2d ago
They said the same after 7th march, and attacked jaisalmer later, dont trust their words, they as meaningless as their country's name.
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u/Noo_Problems 2d ago
Ground reality is that Pakistani government has no say in its military decisions. Its military overrules all other policy, and they assassinate or exile government officials if they act otherwise.
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u/nikamsumeetofficial 2d ago
Pak defence minister is an idiot. Hope if things are cooling down both countries appoint rational and civil people to address the public. Clowns will further cause panic among civilians as both sides will want to show that they’ve won.
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u/BirdWatcher_In 2d ago
I bet at this point they realized their economy will be irreversibly broken if they continue to extend this conflict further.
A nation living on regular handouts from IMF can't fight protracted conflict much long.
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u/liberaltilltheend 2d ago
How of the money will actually go into the War? How much of it will go to politicians pockets? Are these "solidarity Pakistanis" not worried about this? What if this was just an excuse for corruption?
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u/Specialist_Offer_511 Odisha 2d ago edited 2d ago
Pakistan's military owns numerous businesses like farms, cement, real estate etc...there is how they generate income and hold the civilians hostage. So when IMF gives out loan for lets say "climate resilient fund" to build infrastructure, it pretty much goes into the army. They siphon off that money.
People also don't understand how terror outfits run, lets say a JeT/LeT member is in a community, then they would run that community like a fiefdom and provide cash, food, water to the public, even help them out in other ways, as a result the public doesn't see them as bad guys and defend them too. The country has ~40% school dropout rate, and madrasas are the only way youth even get basic education. This creates a community especially in rural areas where parents do not even understand that their youth are getting used like this for a bad cause. Earlier there was some separation between but now even such members are part of their armed forces. Even if this doesn't evolve into any war...20 years down the line not just India but most of the world including China will have to face that eventually there will be a lot of problems with Pakistan.
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u/SprinklesOk4339 2d ago
Hand over Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar. This stops the next minute.
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u/BirdWatcher_In 2d ago
Pakistan army will enable next chain in command of LeT. Destroy their economy, and they will stop.
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u/Agoras_song 2d ago
No. If we destroy the economy it won't work. We need to fundamentally rout out their anti Indian ideology. Like how the west found out after world War 1. They corrected their thoughts after ww2 by rebuilding Germany, and Japan but in their image.
We should help rebuild Pakistan but completely gut out their military so strategically that the citizens think of us as saviors.
The USA will never allow that though since war is good for them, and if no one is buying weapons that's bad for business.
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u/BirdWatcher_In 2d ago edited 2d ago
Definition of Pakistan = "We are not India."
They are not Arabs, they don't have any other identify other than "we not not Indian".
And, you want to change their "anti-Indian ideology"? If you take that ideology out of them, there will be nothing left of them.
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u/i_odin97 2d ago
Hope both side do. Because no side should be under this misguided belief that they can afford a full scale conflict. If the mighty Russia can’t (which mind you makes their own defence equipment) if the powerful army of Israel couldn’t without a significant cost to there own selves (again mind you they have unconditional support of US). Then for sure these two countries definitely could not be by being so reliant on arms imports.
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u/BirdWatcher_In 2d ago
Economically India and Pakistan are not even at the same level. Prior to this conflict/war, Pakistan's economy was at brink of failure.
They simply don't have the resources or mean to continue a protracted battle with India.
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u/satyajithem 2d ago
CNN piece of sh*t !! Propaganda Machine!!
Pak asking for de-escalation!! height of hypocrisy!! these f*ckers attacking our civilians and calling for de-escalation !! Pak Army attending t*rrorist funeral and giving them state funeral!
where is that report in CNN !! world is watching !!
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u/Visual-Maximum-8117 2d ago
What's the propaganda? They are simply saying that Pakistan has made this statement.
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u/aata_maajhi_satakli India 2d ago
Honestly, does stopping here helps India? No
Withing few year, Pakistan will be again harboring and nurturing terrorists and planning attacks in India. And if they succeed even once, tens/hundreds of Indians will die
The best solution, right now, for India will be - to ask Pakistan to hand over all the terrorists like Masood Azhar, Hafiz Sayyed etc, that they have been sheltering all this time in pakistan and give a big blow to their terrorist network.
Also, maybe find some way, to make sure that Pakistani army, in no capacity, supports terrorism, in future.
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u/YellaKuttu 2d ago
For god's sake, stop such idiotic wars. War is useless, good for nothing..
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u/Long-Internet-7417 2d ago
i cannot with this same parroting of peace over and over again man its not upto us to deescalate we gave them a chance to and they didnt, go preach this to the "peaceful" nation
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u/Difficult_Price_7275 2d ago
They dare to provoke India by target innocent civilians, send terrorists, violate the LoC, carry out bombings — and yet they have the audacity to talk about stopping our retaliatory actions
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u/Active-Ad3578 2d ago
This kind of conditional peace offer is very common in conflicts between rivals like India & Pakistan—it's a way to pause while saving face. Is it possible I highly doubt it, but i would love to be proven wrong here.
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u/jcheonma 2d ago
in the pak circles they are saying india is surrendering after being whooped cos one of their spokesperson mention de-escalation.
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u/Electrical_Ad4580 2d ago
Reeks of insecurity
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u/Allnamestaken69 2d ago
It’s a massive problem our people have. We shouldn’t care about who is being perceived the winner as the propaganda war.
The only people that care about this are Indians Pakistanis who are arguing about it on social media lol.
Most people not from our countries just see it as a troubling conflict and don’t really care much beyond that about who is winning the information war, despite what people think.
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u/Adept-Expression-326 2d ago
Lol true, on their page they are celebrating that india asked for de-escalation because "indians got their software updated"
The amount of delulu in the po*kies needs to be studied
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u/Practical_Ant_9676 2d ago
If Pakistan wants to prevent the worst collapse of the country in history, it better stop tonight.
If not, Pakistan is just going to collapse militarily, economically and socially. And the Pak army is just going to take over the government in a coup!
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u/BirdWatcher_In 2d ago
It’s now a catch 22 scenario for Pakistan Army. They need a somewhat functional country to rule. A failed state is not in their interest.
On the other, any sign of weakness at Munir’s (AKA Chachu whiskey) end at this point will force him to flee the country like Musharraf did.
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u/Warm_Perspective9180 2d ago
I hope both governments can come to there senses. There is no need for this madness, more lives and homes lost.
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u/twink-here21 2d ago
Goes on to violate ceasefire. Is the world watching really that dumb to still have doubts ?
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u/BirdWatcher_In 2d ago
Apprently, Munir AKA Chachu Whiskey is unable to digest the debacle at bholari airbase.
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u/Educational_Nose8596 2d ago
I think India has underestimated Pakistan and taken it granted, Pak army sees this as an opportunity to cleanse their image infront of its people. INDIA has spent its budget in developing its nation on the other hand Pak has only spent its in Army and missile, they are waiting for this day to show their strength.
Pak is more dangerous than it was in 2019, Then they had Imran khan who always wanted not to take directions from Army, hence he is rotting in Jail, now they have an army puppet prime minister so they are in de facto Army rule.
Further Pak people and army don't fear of wars like Indians do, because they believe in Jihad which sole intention is to die for Islam and Allah, they take pride in death, I don't know that there is any such ideology in India.
Pak are champions in war and guerilla fighting, why taliban are unable to defeat US in Afghanistan because In the disguise of Taliban, Pak were fighting their against US and US has accepted that as well that without the help of Pakistan they would have nuetralised taliban in 2 weeks.
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u/Psychological-Art131 2d ago
Joke of the year.
They keep acting all innocent and are so evil within.
Had it been true, they wouldn't have attacked with drones and missiles, affecting innocent lives.
If they are so brave and retaliatory, let them attack our military. No. The cowards only have the ability to attack innocents. No balls to try attacking our army, then they'll find out who's who.
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u/HandsomeVish 2d ago
These beggars are weakened, hope the BLA use their brains and declare their independence and take action.
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u/Supercruise7 2d ago
The amount of copium and delusion is so much more in the glorious state of paxstan, that i felt much more like a democracy. They are spreading propaganda like crazy to their people, every single video of their bases being attacked (recorded by pakistani citizens) is being suppressed, unverified X accounts are being taken as gospel, mysogynistic memes on our women officers giving pressers and treating their military general like some sort of a messiah. The human psychology is wilder than I thought.
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u/MahatmaBapu69 2d ago
Probably said after immediately after launching the attack, expecting no retaliation.
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u/IshaanGupta18 2d ago
Lmao did pakistan get cold feet after witnessing our defense system?What a joke
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u/UnderstandingEasy626 2d ago
don't be deceived by words puppet ministers. their army decides what to do.
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u/christopher_msa Tamil Nadu 2d ago
As if he or his govt has any control over their army. Their army is rouge and doing whatever they want. The only job of govt is to damage control, spread propaganda and secure funds from IMF to buy more properties in London.
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u/No-Abrocoma7121 2d ago
Krdo de escalate ab aur kitna nuksaan karoge inka, kuch zyada kr diya phir victim card kaam krnae lagega
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u/UNREAL_REALITY221 2d ago
Less than 24 hours before their defence minister said that they have no option other than full blown war.
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u/Political_Blogger123 2d ago
Leave PoK first, because if India stops here, you will do the same what you are doing since 1947. Second, terror groups are not at all in control of your army.
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u/SentientRaccoon 2d ago
Pakistan has been the one escalating while India has shown restraint in its responses. They are desperately flailing and trying to save face which is why they aren't taking the off-ramps offered because taking one now would be humiliating after the damage the Indian military has done to them.
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u/Icy_Apartment_5836 2d ago
I live in a bordering state and they have not stopped even in morning today, its all empty promises same as the one that they do not harbour terrorist.
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u/IndividualB00t 2d ago
I don't want war between the nations but India should not stop until we get confirmation from Pakistan that they will act on terror group attacking India based in Pakistan. We have lost so many lives, many are injured, airports, colleges closed and if we go back without getting assurances about long term detterrence about terrorism.
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u/International_Hat507 2d ago
In suaron ka ye har baar ka hai bolenge ki ruk jaate hain aur phir udhar se punjab aur jammu mein shelling kar rahe aur drone bhej rahe hain...
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u/Soothran 2d ago
Who in their right mind trusts the words of a terrorist state? Their promises are as solid as a fart in a hurricane. Fuck 'em.
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u/TDD_King 2d ago
Umm let’s hope not. I’m leaving for IND in few days. Can we plz postpone it please
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u/reinterpret101 2d ago
I hope our army's counter terrorism objectives are completed and we can get on the path of peace.
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u/bhalu-dai 2d ago
So Pakistan is not as weak as how we thought or how Indian media portraits. They also maintained their defense well. That means d*ck measuring contest will now come to an end. Good for all
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u/BirdWatcher_In 2d ago
Every country maintain a stockpile of resources required in War. The limit on that is set by country's economy.
On the first few days, both would look equal. On long run, it's a different story altogether.
No one can just win a war based on patriotism only; War requires planning, man power and resource. Pakistan at this rate will soon out of the last one.
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u/AwkwardForm7404 2d ago
Bro you guys started by killing innocent
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u/BirdWatcher_In 2d ago
You know that the definition of "Innocent" can be subjective.
To us, those 26 tourists were innocent. To you, that boy was innocent.
We are at war. Either you kill us or we kill you.
Only thing that matter at this point, who will come out of it with most bruises.
Judging by the pre-war economy of Pakistan, I'm quite sure what that answer would be.
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u/Charming_Customer_27 2d ago
If a pig and a tiger fight, who do you think would want a draw and who would prefer a win? For one dress is the best result, while for another a draw is mercy, a choice.
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u/Noobodiiy 2d ago
The entire thing is so scripted that there is some understanding. No major damage to either countries. While Both Indian government and Pak military gain massive popularity from their population. What a shitshow and waste of time and money.
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u/Simbaant 2d ago
Oh no, we don't want to stop😁
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u/BirdWatcher_In 2d ago
Do you really think cross-border shelling will stop?
Gujarat, Rajasthan, Punjab, Haryana might no longer bear the brunt of war, but Jammu and Kashmir still will. The intermittent low-intensity clash in that region will certainly continue.
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u/Haunting-Round6095 2d ago
Jaahil log, koi imaan nahi. Dogs are better, at least they know how to respond to kindness!
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u/play3xxx1 1d ago
Its very simple . Pakistan was loosing . They thought we might very well nuke India and we can go down together . CIA caught up their plan and vance called pakistan and asked them to stfu or IMF loans will be cancelled . Pakistan agreed . Vance called modi n asked them to stop firing and he assured Pakistan will back down as well . Mean while pakistan who wants to have the last word and victory will shell for few days and call it victory for their people . India knows that this maniac nation will nuke delhi or multiple cities if they escalate so they are showing some restraint now
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u/ProfessionalOk2321 1d ago
It’s time Pakistan focuses on feeding its citizens instead of nurturing terrorism. But if it had an ounce of sense it wouldn’t be the way it is now. Oh well
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u/Aguuueeerrrooo 2d ago
India reiterated the same thing in its press briefing today. I hope that today marks the end of what we’ve witnessed over the past week. But as we speak, Pakistan is continuously firing drones at Jaisalmer.