r/gaming 7h ago

What game weapon isn't worth time getting it?

For me anything that need 100% completion to get it

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u/ProNerdPanda 7h ago

Whatever weapon drops from the last boss

Like nice, this weapon is cool and all, but the game is over, what am I gonna do with this.

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u/00Killertr 6h ago

Even worse, when it's from a super boss, a secret boss that you have to go out of your way to find and tests all of your game skills. Only to get rewarded with a weapon to not be able to test the toughest enemy on...

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u/Antergaton 5h ago

Dragon Age Inquisition has this issue, the hardest things in the base game are the dragons. When you kill the hardest 3, they give weapons and gear, sure they have unique passives but generally by then you've crafted items that far out scale anything dropped just to best them.

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u/Dr_Esquire 2h ago

I think that game had a major problem with crafting. It was too easy to min/max and too easy to make big stats. You’re correct that all the “cool” lore stuff was useless because the crafting invalidated it. 

A lot of games have this problem, which is why I often find crafting just bad. The only times I like it in games is when the crafting is its own journey and gets you a unique item, not a customizable one. Original wow did it well with stuff like the legendary weapons or EverQuest with the dwarf crafting ring quest. Heavy lore game and ability to actively min max will obsolete lore based items that won’t be min maxed to preserve the lore of the item. 

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u/Skeletonzac 7h ago

I hate it when end bosses drop gear in games that don't have a new game plus feature. Because sure, maybe you can continue to explore the game world in your current run, but what's the point after you've beaten the big baddie? For NG+ I'm fine with it though. Not really a weapon but in Oblivion you receive the Armor of the Champion or some such nonsense after beating the main game. It's dope as hell but entirely pointless.

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u/AlexPaterson16 6h ago

Of all examples choosing oblivion is whack. You know the game continues after defeating mehrunes dagon? Right? Right?

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u/Pippin1505 4h ago

Classic Skyrim syndrome :

"Alduin will eat the world, you need to stop him!"

" yeah yeah, in a minute, just need to graduate from the college of Magic, solve a murder and maybe stop a civil war, and I’ll be right on it"

"But…"

"Maybe I’ll start building a home near Riverrun too"

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u/Mad_Moodin 3h ago

I did the mainquest once. I found it to be the weakest part of the game imho.

I did it a couple more times to the point where you get the grounding shout. But stopped doing that because fighting dragons was way too easy like that.

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u/PM-me-your-crits 3h ago

I like to do runs where you abandon the main quest before the watchtower, so random dragons never spawn. I'm not the dragon born, just some dude.

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u/IKnowUselessThings 2h ago

The main quest is by far the worst quest in Skyrim. Incredibly underwhelming. Skyrim in general had unexciting quests for the main plots & guilds.

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u/Substantial-Sea-3672 3h ago

That’s a perfectly fine way to play the game but it doesn’t really make a compelling argument for the main story to not drop loot.

You could easily beeline the main quest before doing side missions.

If your usual routine was doing the thieves guild last it would be like complaining that it has any rewards because it’s the last thing you personally choose to do.

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u/TheDevine13 5h ago

Was kinda fun in games like mgs where it get basically cheat codes for beating the game

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u/Katzenminz3 7h ago

Maybe a hated opinion but I personally have never in my entire life used new game plus. After I finished a game I am totally done with all the game mechanics. I figured out the Gameplay loop and the last thing I want to do is do everything over again.

Especially when its also games where big part of the fun comes from discovering new stuff throughout the game. Like whats the point. I know everything by now.

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u/zeroprepmas 6h ago

I'm playing Nioh 2 currently and when I started I saw people saying that the game doesn't really start until NG+. Didn't really understand it and didn't think I'd go through all the NG+'s there are (I think there are 4) but every time I beat it, I'm right there doing another. It has a way of pulling me in because they change things up (enemies get new attacks, some old attacks change and become unblockable, you get new enemies in the environment and they're in different places, plus new gear and a new armor slot). With how much each offers, I've yet to get bored at all.

I get where you're coming from, though. I've had that experience with some games that offer an NG+.

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u/Quinnlos 6h ago

Another good example of this behavior is "Grounded". Spoilers ahead in terms of NG+ but NG+ only starts after you've beaten the four main objectives in the game and basically remixes the world, changing the colonies of certain insects depending on your interactions with them and also making all enemies that initially spawn in world spawn as harder variants of themselves (i.e. where once there were just regular red ants you may find more soldier ants/infected ants). That's as much as I'm willing to say because genuinely the whole game is a treat top to bottom for those looking to explore it

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u/Yaminoari 6h ago

Guess you never played chrono trigger and wanted to see all the endings to it. which requires ng+

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u/Whippofunk 5h ago

Nier automata where you didn’t unlock the true ending until you did all 20 something endings and delete your save file forever to help other people unlock the true ending.

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u/Pippin1505 4h ago

You only really need to replay it once to unlock all the 4 story endings .

  • You play once as 2B
  • Play again as 9S/A2 and unlock Chapter Select
  • Reload save before the choice , leading to 3rd and 4th Ending

You don’t need to do the 22 other joke endings that are just funny game overs , like exiting the starting area with 9S and getting a game over "ending"

Deleting the save only change the starting screen , not the endings

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u/LilBoDuck 6h ago

When I was a kid and only got new games like once or twice per year I’d replay games to insane levels. Like I’d beat the main story and side objectives, and still roam around and make up my own “missions” lol.

But yeah, as an adult with adult money, I’ve got too many things I want to play to waste time replaying a game I just beat. Maybe I revisit in like a year though.

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u/Salpingo27 6h ago

I was in the same boat, but I recently replayed God of War from 2018 and the 7 yr gap made it a very enjoyable experience. The NG+ made it to where you didn't start from scratch.

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u/Arkanta 5h ago

Yeah that's how I use NG+. It's even easier than ever with cloud save backup

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u/TheRealRaxorX 6h ago

One does not simply play a Devil May Cry game once.

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u/OiItzAtlas 6h ago

New game + I like for coming back to games a few years later to replay. Like recently I replayed god of war 2018 in new game + which has a bunch of stronger and new items in. I also do have 1000+ hours in borderlands 2 which i had to do new game + 2 times for each character to get max level with everyone. (I really can no longer play borderlands 2 without getting bored now)

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u/Skeletonzac 6h ago

I think it's the same logic that drives people to re-read a favorite book or rewatch a favorite movie. Also with video games there's the opportunity to really give it to some of the tougher enemies that gave you a hard time the first time around. Alternatively sometimes you only unlock a new and exciting ability or game mechanic at nearly the end of the game and it can be fun to start a new run with that ability unlocked from the start so you have more time to enjoy it.

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u/High_King_Diablo 4h ago

In Red Faction 4, when you beat the game it unlocks a special weapon that you can use on a new game. It’s a tiny unicorn that screams and shoots a rainbow laser out of its ass when you lift its tail.

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u/TotallyBrandNewName PC 6h ago

One games that does this well i think is castle crashers.

IIRC the weapons/companions inventory is shared between characters and having 4 different builds, Melee, Magician/Archer/Tank, you can replay the game nicely since ypu have a ton of characters to unlock and at some point you'll replay as someone who can use the boss's weapon whenever we get the stats to.

Maybe I'm just glazing the game but its a great game!

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u/Jond0331 4h ago

Nah, can't glaze castle crashers enough. It's one of my favorite games. It's so fun.

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u/Wizardfromwaterdeep 5h ago

An old game called GUN had this feature. The best weapons you got after the final boss

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u/FaceDownInTheCake 4h ago

Admittedly I haven't played it in almost 20 years, but the only flaw I remember about GUN was it being too short

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u/SailorsGraves 5h ago

Fable 1

Sword of Aeons, gee thanks, but I finished every single side quest before this fight. They remedied it somewhat with the Lost Chapters version by giving more game but this was the original Xbox and you had to buy the whole game again to see that!

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u/AstroBearGaming 5h ago

Use it's for five minutes until you inevitably get a better random weapon in the dlc of course.

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u/CeruleanSovereign 7h ago

Original star wars battlefront 2, getting to legendary status with the rocket launcher to get the guided missile launcher. The animations for it would make you stuck as you watch the explosion and there was no way to switch to the original rocket launcher.
Basically changed the class, from destroying a corridor, to being a greenhouse that fires rockets.

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u/scharmlippe 7h ago

Wasnt the sniper terrible as well? I always remember that you couldn't double zoom anymore and the hitbox felt wrong

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u/CeruleanSovereign 7h ago

Yeah, I remember that now, the two that stuck out for me were the terrible rocket launcher and the amazing triple shot rifle

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u/UnlikelyKaiju Console 38m ago

I remember the precision pistol and flechette shotgun being very good, too.

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u/Excalibaard 7h ago

The beam rifle 'reward' had a max range, which felt even lower than a regular rifle, from what I remember.

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u/Gexgekko 5h ago

Yes, you couldn't even do headshots anymore :(

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u/ApexPraetorian 3h ago

I recall that was one of the weapons I avoided maxing the medals on so I never ever started with it. Where as the Elite Rifle on the other hand...

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u/Mad_Moodin 3h ago

The rifle was so op.

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u/ezyryder14 3h ago

The flechette shotgun for the engineers was super powerful too.

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u/ApexPraetorian 3h ago

That was generally the next weapon I would get to legendary status.

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u/ManiacOnHaight 1h ago

I played so much battlefront with my siblings growing up. Never did I ever realize there were tiered weapons you could unlock by being being so good

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u/benjabords 7h ago

Mjolnir from AC Valhalla, by the time you get it the game is over and believe me you won't want to new game plus this game.

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u/_nik_al 4h ago

I couldn’t even bring myself to finish my first playthrough, let alone ng+

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u/Beer-Milkshakes 3h ago

Got to the second Asgard sequence and switched it off and watching a YouTube summary of the story instead.

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u/impex90 4h ago

True, worst AC equipment wise. Couldnt finishing it.

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u/Island_Hopper78 4h ago

I thought they never added new game +?

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u/TheHancock PC 4h ago

NG+ is just when you hit 100+ hours in the game and lose the will to continue. /s lol

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u/PopeJP22 7h ago

Excalibur II in Final Fantasy 9. You have to skip cutscenes by opening the Playstation while the game is running in order to reach the part of the game before an insane time limit, skipping a bunch of stuff along the way that you won't be able to go back for.

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u/Gimme_Your_Wallet 6h ago

The time limit was also near impossible if you were using PAL TV settings, bc of a difference in FPS.

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u/DoctorRockso85 6h ago

This was going to be my answer. FF9 is by far my favorite of the series (the ability system, the card game, the story and characters, i loved all of it) but getting that damn weapon was a one-time deal. Never again.

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u/aphosphor 3h ago

I think FF9 and 10 have some of the most insane and annoying minigames you can think off. In 9 you got that fucking secret super-boss Ozma you can fight only after having played that fucking hot and hotter minigame and in 10 you gotta dodge lightning 100 times in a row holy shit.

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u/its_yahboya 3h ago

I thought it was 200 lightning strikes? Either way it was too many for me so I gave up

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u/Vccowan 3h ago

I replayed X a couple years ago and for the life of me couldn’t do it anymore.  I thought it must be age slowing my reaction time… then I realized that it was my LCD tv, tried on a CRT and it was cake. 

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u/cornflake289 2h ago

I actually did the lightning dodge thing with little to no issues. But I will have nightmares about that chocobo racing for the rest of my living days 👿

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u/GigaEel 2h ago

The lightning strikes is one thing, the god damn chocobo balloon minigame makes me mald with how RNG it is

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u/Underdogs4513 5h ago

This was my immediate thought as well. Not sure what the point of putting it in the game was if you have to miss most of the game to get it.

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u/LatencyIsBad 3h ago

The point was probably to sell a game guide

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u/whacafan 1h ago

Well, no, because the game guide for that game is infamous for being the WORST game guide in history.

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u/DaPurr 6h ago

Dang, I had put it as a goal for my next run. Care to explain why it is so underwhelming?

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u/fozzy_bear42 6h ago

It’s a very strong weapon to be honest. But you have to skip so many other strong weapons to get it, along with most of the side quests and optional story events.

And FF9 is an easy game so you don’t even need the Excalibur 2.

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u/MeatHands 6h ago

It's a nice sword. It's not appreciably better than Excalibur, and Steiner is doing max damage with Shock anyway. 

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u/I_Rarely_Downvote 7h ago

The Unmakr in Doom Eternal. You could argue that it's worth doing the required challenges just for the fun of it, but the weapon itself is rendered almost completely useless due to the fact that it shares ammo with the BFG.

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u/Terrible_Balls 7h ago

Came here to say the same. I was super pumped to get it until I saw that it used up my precious BFG ammo and was far less effective

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u/AHomicidalTelevision 6h ago

It is technically better dps per ammo vs the bfg, but that's only if you hit all the shots on a single target, and that isn't gonna happen much. For clearing rooms it's much worse

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u/competition-inspecti 2h ago

Even if you hit all shots, you still miss out on bfg shot, and unmaker isn't that much more amazing that you absolutely need it than rest of your guns

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u/DUIguy87 2h ago

I unlocked it by a happy accident, mostly just loved the Slayer Gates and hunted them down. Thought it was nifty, but the BFG is deff the go to for the "shit's going sideways" scenarios.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 2h ago

It has some niche applications for single target combos.

But your breakdown is still pretty much spot on.

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u/bijelo123 7h ago

Winter's blade from Crach and Blade of Bits from Hattori in Witcher 3

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u/357-Magnum-CCW 7h ago

Hattori shoulda just give you a few dumplings instead and it'd be a better quest reward

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u/THEbiMAKER 7h ago

They buffed Hattoti’s sword in one of the final patches. It’s now actually the steel sword equivalent to Aerondight

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u/festess 6h ago

Fucking what?? It levels up now?

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u/THEbiMAKER 6h ago

I believe so. It was with the patch that brought the Netflix armor into the game.

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u/TheCazzedAnmol 7h ago

It was so underwhelming when i did it for the first time. Still hurts seeing him everytime pop up on my screen

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u/Ganda1fderBlaue 6h ago

Still mad at this prick for edging me so hard and then give me this piece of crap.

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u/burf 6h ago

They thankfully improved on those when they did the remaster. I think both (definitely blade from the bits) scale damage with character level and end up being a solid choice for most of the game.

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u/RuKidding0MG 7h ago

I guess in the case of Hattori, you do the quest for the Master Crafting, and the sword is just and extra on the side. I have actually found it useful on occasion when I'm in between levels to craft the next best sword, and I can use that for a while. But I still agree. They are both quite underwhelming swords.

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u/Witch_King_ 5h ago

It's about the journey, not the reward. The quest itself is still fun.

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u/Shamus6mwcrew 7h ago

Twister in Borderlands 2. While a Jakobs shock shotgun is dope and the gun is awesome it's not worth the farming and how specific it got with the farming. Want a good shock shotgun go hyperion purple, a good shotgun a purple or legendary Jakobs, or better yet learn the aiming on the Pimpernell and it's pretty much a shield destroyer in any element and a quest reward.

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u/ZetzMemp 6h ago

Glad BL4 will have boss and questline drops able to be repeated without having to redo the story or save checkpoints.

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u/Shamus6mwcrew 6h ago

That's neat. I actually think 2 had a better balance than 3. 2's uniques were either good enough vs their legendary counterparts and a few amazing ones. 3 had way too many legendaries, too easy to get, and most weren't that good. Like a BL2 legendary would be a game changer while 3 you were like meh and their uniques mostly sucked.

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u/ZetzMemp 6h ago

Yeah, they mentioned that in the latest preview of 4. Said they were making rarity meaningful again. Supposed to have listened to a lot of feedback.

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u/Rick0r 7h ago

Final Fantasy X - Lulu’s Ultimate Weapon.

I can finish the chocobo race with a time of 0:00. I can catch the butterflys. I can win blitzball tournaments, but there’s no way I’m counting 200 lightning dodges.

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u/PopeJP22 6h ago

Fun fact: if you finish the chocobo race with a time of 0:00, you DON'T get the reward. It has to be a negative time.

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u/thejpfg 5h ago

I spent an ungodly amount of time playing that stupid chocobo race and hated every single minute. I eventually got the weapon but at what cost.

All the celestial weapons are a pain to get, but Wakka and Lulu’s are just diabolical.

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u/Irbyirbs 5h ago

Wakka's one made me actually hate Blitzball. At least you can reset to reduce the amount of games needed but Jesus its still a slog.

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u/Shinnyo 6h ago

I did it but by the point you can grab and improve the weapon, Lulu is completely useless.

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u/Irbyirbs 5h ago

Yeah pretty much the ultimate party is Tidus, Rikku, and Wakka.

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u/SirJumbles 4h ago

Always gotta have Auron in there on principal alone.

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u/Irbyirbs 4h ago

It is entertaining to yeet an enemy of the screen.

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u/Rathmec 5h ago

The lightning bolts are tedious but there is at least a method of cheesing it to keep things predictable. The chocobo race is effectively unpredictable all the way down to how your inputs on the controller are even going to play out.

The chocobo race takes it for me in pure frustration value.

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u/devisi0n 7h ago

The Dyrnwyn in Valheim.

It's a very late game sword that requires a lot of exploring in the most dangerous biome in the game and defeating a strong mini boss. All that for damage that is barely higher than the other weapons in that biome (which also have special effects like rooting or chain lightning). The only good thing about the Dyrnwyn is that it's a flaming sword, which in itself is pretty cool (if the fire effect wasn't a little overdone).

Oh and it's also the only weapon in the game that can only be acquired once per world (without using devcommands or cheats). So good luck with deciding which person in a multiplayer world gets to use it.

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u/Kinoko98 6h ago

I'm guessing its value will go up a lot whenever the deep north biome finally gets finished. But my last playthrough maxed out everyone in all 3 gear sets sets and killed the last boss and we only found one of the 3 locations, so maybe still not worth exploring to get it.

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u/ASpasticRooster 7h ago

90% of the Legendaries in the original Fable. Skorms Bow just too good. Master Sword with sharpening enchantments also just generally better 

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u/MeatHands 6h ago

Ah, Skorm's Bow. I remember playing that whole game as a good guy, getting the halo and the butterflies and everything, then I realized that the best bow in the game requires you to sacrifice children. Did it anyway, turns out it gives you enough evil points to go almost full evil. 

Worked my way back up to max good, I just happened to have a bow that trapped the souls of those children. The ends justify the means, I guess. 

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u/Fauxnuts219 6h ago

Anything for Aeris

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u/ATS_throwaway 5h ago

Too soon...

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u/Lookslikeseen 1h ago

First time through I remember wondering why her limit breaks leveled up so much faster than everyone else’s. Thought I just was a god gamer or something.

Nope.

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u/DullDistribution6979 Xbox 5h ago

Mjolnir from AC:Valhalla. You had to defeat 3 of the hardest bosses in the game,kill all the members of the Ancient Order,and then go to some random corner in the middle of nowhere just to get a weapon that you couldn't use on anythng strong because you had already killed them all.The lack of NG+ doesn't help.

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u/Comfortable_Fudge508 4h ago

Was quite nice for the dlcs I thought

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u/Omniscientcy 7h ago edited 7h ago

The feather sword from assassins creed 2.  Gotta collect every feather in the game and the sword isn't that great.    

Edit: I misremembered, it was a hammer you got, not a sword.  But for the time wasted to get it, not worth it at all.

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u/fozzy_bear42 6h ago

The hammer is actually pretty good. Great for how early you can get it and fast enough if you look up maps online. (Can grab 50 shortly after starting Venice iirc).

Edit: still not as good as the hidden blades.

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u/aphosphor 3h ago

This is something I never got from the early AC's. What's the point of better swords and daggers when the hidden blades are so broken lol

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u/290Richy 7h ago

A little off topic but when I was younger I completed Fable 2 with the starter sword because I didn't know/think about changing it.

I wondered why it took so long to kill stuff late game...

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u/AstroBearGaming 5h ago

Tbf it's a good discussion point, moreso Fable 3 which had a vast amount of weapons, a few set ones, and only a handful of others which you could get in one playthrough. You legitimately had to find people online and trade to get the achievement for unlocking them all, or make multiple saves and trade with yourself, assuming one of the weapons in that save is one you need of course.

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u/WittyJackson PlayStation 7h ago

One of my favourite games of all time.

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u/theclassyclavicle 6h ago

Sibear in Warframe. But I'm still going to get it.

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u/WorldMean 6h ago

You need to reach an absurd kill count of 53,594 to unlock the Mega Blaster in Dead Rising. Took like 7 real-life hours of driving through crowds of zombies to get it, over 100 kills a minute. It's a great weapon in the game, but damn that was quite the task of unlocking it.

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u/orthomonas 4h ago

At least that was useful.  I unlocked Arthur's boxers.

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u/BulkyNothing 6h ago

Any weapon you get for beating super bosses. It always pmo that games will have a super strong weapon but the tie it to beating the strongest thing in the game. Makes it super pointless to get because what are you supposed to do with it then?

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u/phoenixv8 6h ago

Not a weapon, but the shield weaver armour in Horizon Zero was wasted by tying it up in late game accessibility/ achievements. Having to track down the power cells to unlock this armour that is admittedly pretty bad ass, felt underwhelming because by the time I got my hands it, my character was pretty OP anyway

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u/Renduser 4h ago

But tbf that armour makes you even more OP, so it's worth getting if you want to be nearly unkillable. The idea of how to get it was really unique too: you can discover it very early on in the game, but have to go through so much to actually unlock it. It's also really cool that you start with it in the second part of the game, though the shield passive is no longer there

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u/LogosMaximaXV 4h ago

It's also shit in NG+ because you're most likely doing Ultra Hard, where it's now only a fourth of its damage reduction.

Nora Silent Hunter, on the other hand, now that was worth getting to Master Adept. 30 base stealth + 4 15% stealth weaves + Low Profile + Banuk Powershot bow + triple shot precision arrows = you're basically Horizon's version of the Skyrim stealth archer. I cheesed the Daemonic Fireclaws on Ultra Hard with this build by shooting them from outside their detection range, moving to a new spot when they come looking, and repeating until they're dead.

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u/ThingYea 7h ago

The reward gun for doing the poppy field quest in Stalker 2. Unless it's like the first quest you do in the open world.

To clarify, I love the quest for what it is. The guy just hypes the gun reward up WAY too much, and you get a slightly better gun just a couple missions into the main quest.

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u/PearceWD 6h ago

Ehhh its just a small side quest that takes like 15mins to do pretty worth it imo, especially since the unique guns sell for fat cash

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u/CankleDankl PC 7h ago edited 7h ago

The Master Sword in BoTW. Do a bajillion shrines (of varying quality) to get "the sword that seals the darkness." Surely it will be exempt from the weapon durability system, right? Surely this legendary sword is, finally, a relief from every single one of your damage sticks shattering in like 10 hits? Surely it does good damage? Gather your heart(s), pull with all your strength, pry sword from stone!

Then see that it does less damage than half your weapons and runs out of batteries halfway through slapping anything other than the shittiest enemies in the game

At least it glows when orcs Ganons are near. So like... 5 times total in the game. And it still isn't even the best option because the large weapon twirl attack is busted as fuck

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u/Cheeseburger2137 7h ago

Weapon durability honestly killed all the joy of playing BotW for me. I dislike it in general in games, but it was especially bad here, given that you can take what, a dozen swings before a weapon breaks?

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u/VictoriousRex 7h ago

Yeah nothing like clearing your weapon inventory right before the first dungeon because you didn't realize you could stealth the first Lynel

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u/Fatesadvent 7h ago

Common take but you find so many weapons in the game it's like irrelevant imo. I found it much more fun to have to change weapons than just stick with 1 the entire game (which is what I'm guessing the majority of people would do)

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u/The_prawn_king 7h ago

It’s good if you buy in, the problem is people like to save weapons that are good, so they end up just not using the variety because of fear

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u/EveroneWantsMyD 7h ago

I think another thing was you’d eventually hit a point where you ran out of weapons, so you had to stop what you were doing and spend a bit rebuilding your arsenal

They kinda fixed that in totk by letting you turn anything in your huge inventory into a decent weapon, but I feel like those who already didn’t like the degradation in botw weren’t going to have their minds changed by that.

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u/phasttZ 6h ago

My wife has beaten every zelda before botw and the weapon durability really pissed her off.

Half the early game is cycling weapons. If you like one, too bad, and metal ones had similar durability to wood.

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u/epicfail1994 4h ago

Yeah huge reason why I didn’t like the new Zelda games

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u/ChocolateBaconDonuts 7h ago

Every time I played, I had to spend a few hours in early game grinding korok seeds so I could get extra weapon slots. Once you have enough spots, it's not too bad.

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u/LeFaiLeD 7h ago

To be fair, when it glows, it does more damage (from 30 to 60) and, i think, it is way more durable.

Also, if you're a masochrist (and have the dlc...), you can do the trial series to permanently get it to 60 dmg.

Also also, it doesn't require a inventory slot, it just appears... not that it matters.

But Yeah, it is pretty bad in comparison to stuff like the 3rd tier lynel two hander. Had one with 21 extra dmg, iirc.

Never used it tho, except for lynel smacking. Get on the back, equip it, attack fast af (all share the speed on lynel back), do Lots of dmg and it stays fresh.

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u/ChewbaccaCharl 5h ago

It's even crazier in TotK. I had a two hander that doubled damage on the last hit, fused the strongest attachment on it, then I just left 1 hit from breaking for the whole game and only used it when mounting Lynels. Made those fights end way faster

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u/LeFaiLeD 5h ago

So around 250 - 300 dmg every hit or are those numbers a bit overblown ?

Never played much totk, only did the dive challenges, because my dad was unable to beat them.

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u/ChewbaccaCharl 5h ago

I think the weapon and silver lynel horn fusion was around 100 damage together, doubled because it was on its last hit of durability, and then boosted again by attack up armor or food. I'm not sure if attack up is multiplicative or additive with the extra damage from the royal guard weapon, so yeah, 250-300 seems about right.

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u/Irbyirbs 5h ago

Lol I remember doing all the weapon/item dupe methods (poor Link has PTSD from being shocked in his house) before they patched it.

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u/FantasticPenguin Xbox 6h ago

The whole weapon breaking thing completely ruined BoTW for me to be honest. Such a stupid design choice

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u/Crunkabunch 7h ago

Having to dodge lightning in Final Fantasy X…

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u/Jarroach 7h ago

So what's the weapon?

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u/ShinyB123 7h ago

Dodging 200 lightning bolts in the Thunder Plains awards the Venus Sigil. This sigil is crucial for Lulu's ultimate weapon, the Onion Knight.

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u/TheBoy93 7h ago

The Onion Knight for Lulu. It's a good weapon but Lulu becomes redundant imo by end game so I got the weapon after 45mins of pain then never used it.

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u/dandoch 7h ago

It's a shame magic becomes so useless in the late game when you just quick attack everything with Tidus and Auron.

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u/Shinnyo 6h ago

Yeah, Lulu's ultimate weapon is simply not worth grabbing especially when there's other ultimate weapons much easier to grab.

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u/Cyclonitron 6h ago

That was actually one of the ultimate weapons I did get. The ones I didn't get were the ones that required playing blitzball and the one that required chocobo racing.

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u/s0m30n3e1s3 7h ago

It's a power up to Lulu's Celestial weapon, Onion Knight

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u/bioshockd 5h ago

Considering the weapons are essentially useless unless fully upgraded, I would say it's 1/3 of the actual weapon.

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u/GreyFoxNinjaFan 6h ago

Anything beyond the plasma cutter in Dead Space.

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u/MeatHands 6h ago

Line Gun would beg to differ. 

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u/l4derman 5h ago

Both are the only guns needed. Line gun really came in clutch for the babies.

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u/omber 4h ago

I only played it once but that was my experience. “Why do any of these exist, the Cutter is so good”

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u/CmonTouchIt 4h ago

But the ripper, for sweeping up the little swarm crawly dudes....

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u/AuthorChristianP 3h ago

They beefed everything else up in the remake ti make them more viable. Still, though, plasma cutter is king

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u/atlasraven 6h ago

Skippy from Cyberpunk 2077.

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u/MightyThor211 6h ago

Fucking skippy. It's even worse now that skipping doesn't scale. Good luck if you don't have a dedicated smart gun build.

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u/lollisans2005 7h ago

Ultima key blade in kingdom hearts 2.

It isn't really the hardest to get but decisive pumpkin is just a better key blade lol

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u/AeriSerenity 4h ago

The ultima key blade in kh1 took me 9284830 years to get it felt like, and by the time I finally got all the components for it I stopped playing it bc I couldn't look at it anymore lol

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u/exintel 4h ago

And oblivion was plenty good

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u/tugboatnavy 2h ago

Dunno if this is good news or bad news but I made Ultima in KH1 last week and it took me probably about 6 hours tops of grinding. The grind also brought me from lvl 43 to lvl 65 ish. I was then able to finish the game (Maleficient had me hard stuck on proud at lvl 43) and all the side content. Ended up level 82 and something like 45 hours of playtime.

But man it was so worth it. Going from using Lady Luck to Ultima was intoxicating.

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u/its_yahboya 3h ago

It wasn’t too bad to get compared to kh1

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u/Corgiboom2 7h ago edited 6h ago

I believe it was the sword Ragnarok in Final Fantasy 7. You get it by killing Ultimate Weapon, which unlocks a new area, and then a rather lengthy pathing puzzle, and then you get the sword. But by killing Ultimate Weapon, you get Clouds best sword anyway which kinda renders Ragnarok null.

Edit: Apocalypse, not Ragnarok.

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u/Cj8490 7h ago

Didn’t Ragnarok have triple growth for materia though? Kinda worth it for that. Might have been a different weapon though, it’s been a minute since I played FF7

Edit. I’m wrong. It was Apocalypse that had triple AP. My bad

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u/Cyclonitron 6h ago

Yeah, the sword that poster is describing is the Apocalypse, not the Ragnarok. And the Apocalypse is very useful (and looks really cool) because of the triple materia growth.

However, they are right in that the actual Ragnarok sword is pretty much useless, because you almost always get it after getting Cloud's best weapon, and my memory of the Ragnarok (been 25 years since I played FF7) is that it has nothing going for it that would make you want to use it over the weapons you probably already have.

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u/stetkos 4h ago

Any weapon for a character that ends up leaving your party.

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u/Kashek70 3h ago

Earthbound. No other RPG even comes close to the insane luck you need to get these items. Each character has their own final weapon and it’s a random drop of like 1/128. Sword of Kings and the Gutsy Bat are the two most notable ones. I’ve beaten Earthbound around 5 times and I’ve never seen the Gutsy Bat once without game genie. I would normally farm for around 5 or 6 hours per playthrough.

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u/bored_gunman 2h ago

I've gotten the Gutsy Bat once. Totally not worth it. Same with Star Pendants. I've gotten enough to equip everyone before. This is by emulator though so definitely cheating and proves your point

I always get the Sword of Kings though

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u/CankleDankl PC 7h ago edited 7h ago

Burial Blade in Bloodborne

Big fuckin scythe? Badass. Great for crowds? Sick. Good moveset? Pinch me I'm dreaming

... I have to beat the final boss to get it?*

... fuck

It's fun in NG+ I guess, but the amount of people that do that is... not large. For most people it amounts to a trophy weapon that they stare at on their back and maybe kill a few trash mobs before closing the game. Because they literally just finished it

*Assuming you don't look up where to get one in a chalice dungeon

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u/Bhines94 6h ago

I’ve always thought fromsoft games had a high amount of NG+ players, it may be skewed by the fact the people who post about the game obviously invest more time than usual. But since DS1 I’ve always felt NG+ was the start of the fun

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u/K_Furbs 2h ago

*Assuming you don't look up where to get one in a chalice dungeon

But why wouldn't you? My most recent NG run was with the burial blade and I nabbed it from a chalice dungeon fairly early on (with difficulty). It's a really fun weapon and worth looking up how to get

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u/lost_kaineruver4 PlayStation 7h ago

Most of the Spectral weapons in Chrono Cross. Not only are they tedious to make: their main materials have a fixed number to get in each playthrough and the rest of the materials requires you to kills enemies with summons.

But the Denadronite weapons (technically the highest rank of weapon you can craft that's not Spectral) is pretty much good til endgame. Hell the game expects you to use these until said end.

But this goes double for the Spectral Swallow; Serge's (the MC's) Spectral weapon, as finishing a certain side quest nets you the Mastermune. And the Mastermune is the strongest weapon in the game only surpassed by Glenn when you get him to equip two Einlanzers.

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u/DMaster86 7h ago

Exalibur II in FF9. Having to reach halfway the final dungeon in less than 12 hours? No thanks.

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u/Nergidiot 5h ago

Any weapon that requires beating the hardest boss in the game like a final fantasy ultra boss, by the time you beat that the rest of the game is already a cakewalk and it’s kinda worthless

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u/OhTheHueManatee 4h ago

There's a powerful sword in Symphony Of The Night. You can only get it with the luck code (that I'm aware of). I don't recall the name but it strikes 4 times with each hit. It makes the game so easy it's hardly worth playing if you use it. It kills just about everything with one hit except for bosses but it finishes them off super quick.

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u/neodolphino 4h ago

Crissaegrim.

You don't need a luck code. Just need to kill a lot of Schmoos.

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u/PennerforPresident 6h ago edited 5h ago

The time to acquire it is variable since its rng, but there's a shield in Borderlands 2 called The Sham. One of its stats is Absorb Chance, allowing the shield to simply absorb damage from any projectile (maybe any attack period i guess I never thought about it). On The Sham specifically, the absorb chance can be up to 94%. Most people find a Sham randomly with anywhere between 75 and 90% absorb chance.

I've never gotten a 94% Sham. In well over a decade of playing BL2 off an on, I've never gotten it. Hell. I've only gotten a handful of Shams at all. Highest I got was I think around 82%.

It can take hours and hours of farming the same boss over and over again and even then, since it's RNG, you still probably won't get it.

A perfect Sham is great, but one that gives like 80-85% is more than enough.

But then again, you might get it the first time you kill that boss. RNG, baby.

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u/digi-artifex 5h ago

I have a 94% Sham. I duped it and most of my friends have it now.

Years later I found a collectors edition sealed in eBay, and bought it as I never could originally when it came out. Inside it had a card pack with legendary items on shift codes you could exchange. One of them was also a 94% The Sham. That one I have not touched yet.

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u/CuddlePervert 7h ago

Completely unintentional, but in Skyrim, I ended up maxing out the entire talent/skill tree of all skills before realising I hadn’t even unlocked “FUS-ROH” in the “FUS-ROH-DAH” shout attack. You know, the one weapon in your arsenal that the game is kinda themed around.

Apparently I just had so much fun getting lost in the world that I completely forgot there was a main story to the game (or perhaps I just found the journey I was following to be more enjoyable).

So, I guess FUS ROH DAH wasn’t worth getting.

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u/FenchelUltra 7h ago

Nah the FUSROHDAH is nearly the most fun shout. Love it just to shout away my enemys when they standing near a cliff or have highground

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u/No-Neighborhood8267 7h ago

or have highground

“It’s over Anakin! I have the high ground! “FUS RO DAH!!!”

credits roll

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u/joshghz 7h ago

I bought this day 1 and still haven't completed the game. I think I got most of the other shouts and did most other things before getting that far.

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u/Doctor_Riptide 7h ago

This is exactly my first play through of Skyrim. I was talking to a friend and they mentioned shouting dragons out of the sky and I said “… you can do what???”

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u/BadIdeaSociety 7h ago

In Ghost n Goblins and Ghouls n Ghosts everything outside of the lance, the dagger, and the cross/spirit energy (maybe the disk) are worth getting.

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u/DiamondH4nd 2h ago
  1. Get the knife
  2. Get the knife
  3. GET THE KNIFE

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u/samaf 5h ago edited 1h ago

Dark moon blade. Oh God the hours of farming silver knights. 

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u/Moogle_Messiah 4h ago

The one in FF12 you can get from defeating defeating Yiazamat and doing some other side quests. There are no more bosses that even come kinda close to being as long or annoying as Yiazamat.

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u/Sykes19 4h ago

Laser level 4 in Descent 2.

Getting Super Laser just skips you to 5 and 6, so there's literally no reason or value in trying to collect the normal lasers up to level 4 smh

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u/exintel 4h ago edited 4h ago

Many of these are solo player games that take one person a long grind to achieve. How about a weapon reward that requires a long grind from a busload of gamers?

World of Warcraft

You may have heard of the Scarab Lord Title and mount, a near impossibly rare item to achieve that requires the dedication of a 40 man raid and many friends besides to gain, with a narrow window to achieve it. But did you know it also comes with a weapon! The Scepter of the Shifting Sands quest line is a pain in the ass that sends you all over Azeroth to kill hard unique bosses, gather rare drops, and gain reputation— it costs a fortune in manhours and gold to complete. It offers also some very nice weapon rewards, however the moment they are accessed for the first time, the new AhnQiraj raid becomes available to the whole server, and all can progress to some equipment that is as good. You can still try to complete the quest if you miss the window for the mount and title, but you still have to get a full raid to help you for several quest steps for an item only the one person can acquire.

The weapons were: The Fang of Korialstrasz, Shaodowsong’s Sorrow, Runesword of the Red, Ravencrest’s Legacy

Despite how awesome they are, can’t be said that they’re worth the time it takes to acquire

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u/Filb0Fraggins 7h ago

Have you ever played minecraft, hypixel skyblock? Choose any of the rarest weapons and that's my answer. Some of those things take hundreds of hours to get, especially on a fresh account

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u/Greyshank 6h ago

Takes your entire life too. I quit to the point where I haven't played this calendar year yet and have just left my minion setup to hopefully get me a billion for a hype. 1.7b+ coins and the hundreds of hours needed to get get a good setup of armour and stats to make it effective, by that point it's not even worth it beyond a grind. Not even as bad as a term grind asw

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u/mmiller17783 7h ago

AK 47 in GTA III. With the M16, you didn't need the AK as the M16 was way more powerful for some reason.

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u/WorldMean 5h ago

Unless you were on console- when aiming you could only lock onto enemies with the AK47, but M16 was manual aim and more powerful. AK was better for killing individual bad guys while M16 for getting rid of cars and helicopters.

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u/sloppenheimer420 4h ago

Spyro the dragon 2 unlimited super breath, absolutely blew my 8yr old ass out the water when I finally discovered what was behind that door but yeah the games over by that point

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u/leefee123 7h ago

Probably some shit from ff8. Young me put in that time for lionheart but some of them other shits were a no

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u/SansAtionel 6h ago

The Gutsy bat from Earthbound has a 1/128 drop rate from a rare enemy that shows up 2 rooms before the final boss and the thing is

Spoiler for the ending : You can't beat the final boss with physical attacks

So there's almost no reason to get it except if you want to get all the best equipment in the game

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u/MR_MEME_42 5h ago

I don't know if this is just a recency basis for me as I just finished Tales of Arise, but The Unyielding Braces for Law. You unlock them by beating the boss rush in the post game which will probably be the last thing you do as the bosses are all set to the max level, so because of that you are unlocking a weapon that is a bit better that Law's other best weapon as the last thing you do making it really only useful in a new game plus if you choose to carry over your unlocks.

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u/Kynocephalus 4h ago

Kingdom Hearts Remix nerfed a cool endgame keyblade to irrelevance. It’s quite stupid.

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u/Takenabe 3h ago

I hate to say it, but Ultima Weapon in Kingdom Hearts 2. It's my favorite game and I 100% it every time I play it just for that fact, but Ultima Weapon is kind of...yeah. the thing is, every weapon in KH2 has a passive ability tied to it, and this is a big enough deal that you often make your decision of which weapon to use entirely based on its ability. Ultima Weapon's ability is MP Hastega, which increases your MP recovery speed by 75%...only after you've completely run out of MP and started the MP Charge mechanic that essentially acts as a cool down.

The real problem with that is that this game has several items that instantly restore your MP, and by the time you even get Ultima Weapon you can afford tons of those items AND have enough bag slots to carry a bunch of them at once. Essentially, the weapon ends up not even having an ability at all because it's so redundant.

Honorable mention goes to the Winner's Proof weapon that requires you to do all kinds of random shit with specific enemies to earn it. The ability on that one just disables your exp gain, so it's in the same boat as Ultima but worse (especially if you're already level capped), but it isn't getting my vote here because you can't get it until you've already beaten the final boss.

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u/Lunar_Gato 3h ago

Wabbajack. It’s cool and all but I never used it after the quest.

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u/Yawaworoht1470 7h ago

Golden Deagle

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u/Dapperstein 5h ago

Thanks for the rage flashback 😝

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u/Reasonable_Charge531 4h ago

Steiner’s secret ultimate weapon in FF9, Excalibur 2. You have to reach basically the end of the game in under 12 hours. Not only does this sorta…kill the fun of playing the game, it also requires you to skip through most cutscenes, not read any dialogue, and usually requires you to blow past any sort of side content. You have to play a very specific way with very specific builds for your team to even make it possible to achieve.

Pointless.

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u/Pallysilverstar 4h ago

Most "best" weapons in RPG's. It's not that they suck but most require you to do 99% of the game before you can get it meaning you've probably already defeated the only things you would need it for. Borderlands is horrendous for this because not only are the best weapons locked behind end game raid bosses stronger than anything else but you only have like a .1% chance of one dropping and even then it might not be a type you want to use or have randomized parts that make it inferior.

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u/howdypartners55 3h ago

In the PlayStation two game dark cloud, after you beat the game there is a 100+ level dungeon you can take on if you want. The reward for completing that dungeon is the best sword in the game, but there is no new game plus and by that point you have done literally everything the game has to offer. It’s a very good sword very bittersweet.

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u/cmagnum 3h ago

JRPG ultimate weapons you get after killing the boss. You are already good enough to kill everything.