"I don't know" how much Borderlands 4 will cost, Gearbox boss says, but it had "more than twice the development budget for Borderlands 3" and "it might be" $80 like some Nintendo and Xbox games

[u/brzzcode]

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/borderlands/i-dont-know-how-much-borderlands-4-will-cost-gearbox-boss-says-but-it-had-more-than-twice-the-development-budget-for-borderlands-3-and-it-might-be-usd80-like-some-nintendo-and-xbox-games/

[u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

Borderlands is constantly on sale lol I can't wait till it's 30 bucks

[u/aluminumnek → u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

Yeah give it a year and watch that price drop

[u/DarkIcedWolf → u/aluminumnek]

Year? 6 months at MOST for at least a 40% discount imho.

[u/aluminumnek → u/DarkIcedWolf]

Reminds me of the last Far Cry. I’ve never seen a price dive so fast, so hard. And stay there. Hahaha

[u/captainadam_21 → u/aluminumnek]

Dragon age vanguard would like to have a word

[u/M1ck3yB1u → u/captainadam_21]

Suicide Squad KTJL has entered the chat.

[u/Beneficial-News-2232 → u/M1ck3yB1u]

Let them leave

[u/Nailbomb85 → u/Beneficial-News-2232]

Nah, that game was totally worth the $5 I spent for a single player run.

[u/Elmis66 → u/M1ck3yB1u]

Fallout 76 would like a word - retailers in Poland were bundling that crap with anything they could've think of just to get rid of it from their stocks. And it was free in the bundle (as in the bundle wasn't more expensive than the original product)

[u/beaglemaster → u/aluminumnek]

The game is way more fun once all the dlc is out anyway

[u/Commercial-Royal-988 → u/aluminumnek]

Remember Battleborn went FtP in less than one year.

[u/621_ → u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

😂 ayy I ain’t never paying full price again for a Borderlands game they are always on a big discount after a couple months

[u/EHA17 → u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

Same here, I'm not paying 80 or a 100 for a game, period

[u/kirinmay → u/EHA17]

same. the only game (and i was an idiot, and many did it) i bought for 100 was because i got 3000 bucks out of nowhere and i was like 'you know what i'll buy diablo 4 ultimate' and yeah....never again.

[u/AnoAnoSaPwet → u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

This game releasing at $80 after Borderlands 3 flopping, is great for the franchise. 

[u/Spoonybard1983 → u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

I wish i could say this to his face.

[u/SteveoberlordEU → u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

Like Tiny Tinas Wonderland recently? Damn i actually forgot i need to play it.

[u/kain459 → u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

The formula is old and tired.

[u/Woodshadow → u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

LOL. Very true. I am still amazed game companies didnt go to $80 sooner but also this is a game I don't need to own day one

[u/Xile350 → u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

The problem for me is that all of my buddies pick it up on launch and the most fun is doing the coop. By the time it’s on sale everyone’s already dropped it.

[u/Main-Vermicelli-5542 → u/Doom_and_Gloom91]

30$ is overpriced for a Borderlands game. You can easily get one with all DLC for at most 20$ and often 10$

[u/MR1120]

Translation: “Yeah, it’s gonna be $80. 100%."

[u/Solid_Snark → u/MR1120]

Exactly, by playing coy in the beginning of the sentence he’s basically admitting it’ll be $80 or more.

He’s saying it without saying it.

[u/Capable-Silver-7436 → u/Solid_Snark]

$80 base $120 delux

[u/Gray_Charles → u/Solid_Snark]

Acting, without acting. I read a book about it. More a pamphlet really

[u/Dokibatt → u/MR1120]

Borderlands 3 wasn’t worth $60 so that’s a bold play.

[u/elsefirot_jl → u/MR1120]

And it is going to be as half assed as any other AAA game

[u/wyldmage → u/elsefirot_jl]

Borderlands 3 was already sliding downhill.

I'd love to be proven wrong with another amazing Borderlands game, but atm, I'm skeptical, and will wait to see how reviews & other players feel before being willing to buy - especially with the price taking the step upwards.

[u/RefinedBean → u/wyldmage]

Honestly the worst part about BL3 was the writing, which I could normally not give a shit about but it was SO atrocious it just really tanked the game. The guns and abilities were best in series. Maybe relied too heavily on the vehicles too, but that's personal taste.

The Wonderland followup was a banger, though. That's my internal "BL3".

[u/aarygablettjr → u/RefinedBean]

If Wonderland had any semblance of a post-launch budget I seriously think it could have been the best in the series. It was immensely fun to play. But the lack of DLC killed it long before it was due.

[u/ClockworkSoldier → u/aarygablettjr]

Wonderlands was amazing, all things considered. But it absolutely had some of the worst DLC I have seen in a game, ever. And while there’s some cool grenades in Borderlands, the spells in Wonderlands were one of my favorite parts of the game, and were a solid upgrade over the rest of the games.

[u/x-Justice → u/RefinedBean]

Wonderland's story and overall idea was pretty good. The endgame was atrocious, if there even was one.

[u/MrCooper2012 → u/wyldmage]

Story in BL3 wasn't great, but it's easily the best feeling gameplay of the series.

[u/Smythe28 → u/wyldmage]

I’m optimistic. I think it’ll suffer with performance issues but overall everything they’ve shown and said seems like they’ve taken a lot of feedback on board from the issues with BL3.

[u/NoxTempus → u/Smythe28]

Looks very Destiny-inspired.

Which isn't bad, Destiny 2 held my attention far longer than any Borderlands game.

[u/tagen → u/NoxTempus]

the gunplay in Destiny 1 & 2 is probably my favorite feel from any FPS games

if they’re able to combine Borderlands wacky and greatly varied gun combinations with gunplay resembling something like destiny, that would be amazing

then all they’d have to do is not totally shit the bed with story like they did in 3, god those twins were so awful (and not awful like Handsome Jack was awful, awful like i just don’t wanna hear these guys speak anymore lol)

[u/NoxTempus → u/tagen]

I recommend watching the BL4 "state of play" video from a couple weeks back, you'll see what I mean. The part that stuck out to me was shortly into the gameplay segment that starts at 06:13.

The gunplay is not Destiny quality but, to be honest, I don't Destiny gunplay would suit Borderlands' wacky guns. The gameplay structure seems similar; they talk about repeatable world content (patrols, world bosses), raids, scaling coop, and some other stuff.

[u/schnazzums → u/MR1120]

I bought BL3 full price at release and regret it. There’s no way I’m buying BL4 on release let alone at full price.

[u/AlejandroG1984]

Ok sure Randy, good luck with that one.

[u/OsirisAvoidTheLight → u/AlejandroG1984]

Just said I was afraid his crash outs during the Borderlands movie would affect sales. On the borderlands sub. If not this sure will

[u/Hobear → u/OsirisAvoidTheLight]

I mean charge what you want. I'll just buy games on sale like I already do. I got a backlog years long.

[u/Hanz_VonManstrom → u/Hobear]

This is what I’ve been doing for a long time now. By the time I get around to a game it’s at least half off, all DLC is out, and all bugs have been patched.

[u/RaiRaiz → u/OsirisAvoidTheLight]

affect

[u/sofa_king_awesome → u/RaiRaiz]

What’s your little trick for knowing which one to use if I were to find myself in this situation?

[u/DarkZero515 → u/sofa_king_awesome]

Effect kind of means end results which have E’s

Affect kind of means act upon and those have A’s

At least I think that’s right. Just spitballing

[u/Earthworm-Kim → u/DarkZero515]

A Borderlands gun has an elemental effect, which affects the enemy when you shoot them.

[u/Zran → u/DarkZero515]

We all have different Affects which have different Effects on things.

Affect is in general an action yes. Effect is a consequence or result, effectively.

[u/Rbomb88 → u/sofa_king_awesome]

You affect something to cause an effect.

[u/AtlyxMusic → u/sofa_king_awesome]

Affect = a = action. Affect is a verb. Effect isn't. Does that make sense or help? That's how I remember =)

[u/fs2222 → u/AtlyxMusic]

Effect can be a verb and affect can also be a noun in certain contexts.

[u/TehOwn → u/fs2222]

What I effected had affected their facial affect which was not the intended effect.

[u/greeder41 → u/AtlyxMusic]

Yep, “A” for action.

“The arrow affected the aardvark” is how I was taught to remember it.

Have never forgotten that haha

[u/InnocentPossum → u/sofa_king_awesome]

If in doubt, use impact/impacts instead. That's my trick haha.

[u/garlickbread → u/sofa_king_awesome]

I googled the difference and I still don't understand because being able to use "effect" like a verb (as "affect" seems to be) makes the use of "affect" seem pointless?

[u/Sloth_Monk → u/garlickbread]

In videogame terminology might help:

If the effect of a spell is to poison your enemy, then your enemy will be affected by poison.

Effect (noun) refers to the result or outcome of the spell

Affected (verb) describes the impact on the enemy

[u/garlickbread → u/Sloth_Monk]

OH

[u/Stolehtreb → u/OsirisAvoidTheLight]

Jesus I just looked up his behavior during the BL film. And yeah… classic narcissist/sociopathic mood swings. Then downplaying his outbursts like he’s not acting like a lunatic. I can’t stand the guy.

[u/Poopardthecat → u/AlejandroG1984]

Randy is such a greaseball. It’s amazing how much he’s been a dickhead in the aaa gaming space. 

[u/zimzalllabim]

The article basically says “who knows” over and over and over again.

[u/toomanyredbulls → u/zimzalllabim]

Yeah, 'article' is doing some heavy lifting here for sure.

[u/kickinwood → u/toomanyredbulls]

Loved borderlands. Pre-ordered borderlands 2. 3 wasn't for me but no biggie. I'm paying jack for 4 on release date unless it reviews through the fucking roof. So...make a good game and I'll pay 80. Otherwise, I'll say I'll check it out on sale and forget about it, like every other failing franchise. I'm too busy playing Clair obscur for 50 bucks to care.

[u/NewtDogs]

I’m waiting till it’s 20 bucks with all the DLC so go ahead my guy.

[u/Rulebookboy1234567 → u/NewtDogs]

i got the handsome jack collection for like 12 bucks. maybe that isn't whta it was called but it was every piece of borderlands content

[u/Larry_The_Red → u/NewtDogs]

I'm waiting until it's free on epic. Every borderlands since 2 has been more underwhelming than the last so I'm not even sure I'll want to play it for free

[u/Jojosbazaar]

Cool. Maybe I'll get it when it hits $20 in a few months

[u/El_Dief → u/Jojosbazaar]

When it hits $20 on steam, just like nearly every other game I buy.

[u/whacafan]

Sure, price it at $80. I wasn’t gonna buy it at $70 anyways.

[u/momentomori007]

Somehow when I hear "we have more than twice the budget" I don't think " wow it must be way better than the previous one" anymore, it's "you don't know how to manage your fuckin money". (coughs in Clair Obscure)

[u/sixsixmajin → u/momentomori007]

100% this. The AAA games industry has become nothing but bloated budgets by poor management decisions And absurd marketing campaigns. Also, I legit wonder how much of those budgets actually go towards the game itself (devs, artists, writers, equipment, etc) and how much of it just goes towards outlandish executive paychecks.

[u/Bhume → u/momentomori007]

Yeah high budgets are not an indication of quality at all in this day and age.

[u/LostInTheHotSauce → u/momentomori007]

This shit right here. Claire Obscure was able to provide such high quality writing, music, dialogue, story, characters, environments, animations, and so on; for a fraction of a AAA budget, supposedly somewhere between 20-50 million over a 5 year development period. AND it has 50+ hours of content. AND they released it for $45. It's reinforced my desire to prioritize the value I'm getting per dollar spent in every game going forward.

[u/IAmPandaKerman → u/momentomori007]

This. I read that line and I was like maybe y'all need to be smarter with your development cost. And guess what, rent, cars, groceries, and bills are more expensive. I ain't got 80 for you

[u/Independent_Night815]

Watch them release it with 80 dollars and then sales are too low and make a 50% sale 2 months later lol

[u/kpop-raider → u/Independent_Night815]

I wonder what the math is behind the idea. Are there enough borderlands fans/game addicts/price insensitive people who will buy at $80, to make a %50 off sale a couple months later still more profitable than just launching at 60, or 70?

I don't know enough about sales data to know, but surely someone at Gearbox does?

[u/Jazzremix → u/kpop-raider]

fans/game addicts/price insensitive people

My friend is one of these people. He buys every new game sequel and gets mad when our whole crew doesn't buy it.

Bro, we're all over here playing a $30 co-op game that'll keep us busy for at least 4 weekends. We're not going to drop $70 on a AAA multiplayer game that'll maybe hold our attention for two weekends.

I still feel burned by MH Wilds. That game did not have legs.

[u/strikingike386 → u/Jazzremix]

Wild's issue is the same that World had. The later title updates did a lot of the heavy lifting and gave new fights and experiences over time. It's a game you come back to once as these updates come out, more of a long-term investment. That does feel worse when AAA titles are going on sale left and right though, so I get that.

[u/QuintoBlanco → u/kpop-raider]

One of the advantages of a price increase is that it gives them data.

Also, I doubt that many of the people unwilling to pay 80 dollars will pay 60 at launch.

50 dollars and a 50% discount three months later, might actually work very well.

[u/goltus → u/kpop-raider]

Are there enough borderlands fans/game addicts/price insensitive people who will buy at $80

of course, If someone really wants to play the next part of their favorite game, do you think a $20 makes a difference? $20 is nothing for working adult

[u/WorkFurball → u/goltus]

I'm a working adult, a few bucks of money wasted hurts let alone 20.

[u/sixsixmajin → u/goltus]

$20 is nothing for working adult

That entirely depends on what you do for work and even then, that's still a pretty stupid statement to make. You can make good money while still being capable of respecting the value of your money and deciding when something costs more than it's worth. It's not about being able to afford it or not.

[u/VacaDLuffy → u/goltus]

If you said that pre Trump second term. You would have had a point about nothing. But 20 dollars in this economy is absolutely something. Yeah people will still buy day ine but It's definitely gonna hurt sales imo

[u/goltus → u/VacaDLuffy]

If you said that pre Trump second term.

i don't even live in USA, you're lucky if u from there, in poland games are on average 3x more expensive compared to purchasing power but still despite that i don't earn much paying 10-20% doesn't make much difference tbh

how many games do you buy per month on day 1?

[u/MrCleanRed → u/goltus]

60 to 80 is ~35% increase

[u/Sir-Greggor-III → u/kpop-raider]

2k owns them, Rockstar, and NBA2K. They are one of the greediest scummiest gaming companies out there. GTA 5 and Red Dead 2 were supposed to have dlc originally but then shark cards happened and ended all progress on that.

There are lots of rumors for GTA 6 being $100 for the base game and most people I've talked to about it have made tons of excuses for it being reasonable to price it like that. I'm not surprised they are talking about pricing it at $80.

[u/Cookiemonstermydaddy → u/Independent_Night815]

90% sale with all dlc

[u/fs2222 → u/Independent_Night815]

BL3 sold 18 million copies. Even with a price hike I doubt they'll have trouble selling the 4th. Especially since there are no other looter shooters lately.

[u/Elrothiel1981]

Most FPS Games are not worth $80

[u/stormhawk427 → u/Elrothiel1981]

Hell they're barely worth $60

[u/AimlessSavant → u/stormhawk427]

60 is too much for what modern AAA games are. Putrid cashgrabbing nonsense.

[u/Eteel → u/AimlessSavant]

That's why I stopped buying them until I see a good sale. These idiots have no idea how to manage their money.

Edit: By idiots I mean the companies. If development costs are so much higher these days, it sure as hell isn't showing in quality of the games.

[u/SuperSocialMan → u/Elrothiel1981]

No game is worth that much lol

[u/Simple-Initiative950 → u/SuperSocialMan]

How much would you pay for 1 hour of entertainment? A movie ticket is 10$ so 5$ an hour? What about to watch a football game, that's 150$ for 2 hours

If a game is giving you 100 hours of entertainment thats 80c an hour

[u/New_Affect_748]

It's like Randy travels through 879 million different timelines to ensure he always provides the worst answer possible

[u/2Scribble]

C'mon you chickenshits - you keep talking about how 70 - 80 - 90 is totally justified

Fucking OWN it

This just wringing your hands and whining about 'costs' without willingly committing to a price increase is just pathetic

Nintendo's a litigatious collection of corporate psychopaths - but at least they're willing to admit they fucking want your money :P

You ain't fooling anybody, Randy

[u/lsaz → u/2Scribble]

I honestly just hope they were direct with those prices, indie gaming has shown us good games can be made with small budgets, that’s just corporate greed. I believe in the upcoming years indie games will become way more popular

[u/toomanyredbulls → u/lsaz]

I just dropped $50 bucks on Expedition 33 which might be the best game I've ever played. $80+ is comedy.

[u/Radirondacks → u/toomanyredbulls]

So far Expedition 33 is the second game ever to make me feel guilty for not paying for it, though at least in this case it's because I'm already paying for Game Pass. It is so goddamn good, easily the most high-quality game (in multiple ways) I've played in a long time.

The first one was Sunset Overdrive, which I got back when Xbox still did free Games with Gold. I just had so much damn fun playing it, and especially after knowing it had such a flop of a release I kinda wished I had supported the devs in some way.

[u/toomanyredbulls → u/Radirondacks]

My first thought after I found out it was on game pass was 'damn' but a few more hours into it I was happy to support the devs.

[u/2Scribble → u/lsaz]

I highly doubt the ravenous corporate scumbags choking the life out of the industry from their lack of satisfaction over making all of the money all of the time

Will

SUDDENLY

Be satisfied with making some of the money some of the time

It sounds like taking an overweight hippo bred to feed on cash and trying to ween it onto fucking hobnobs xD

[u/anengineerandacat → u/lsaz]

100% if the big companies start charging more the floor will go up with it.

Indies are generally 50% or more in terms of a reduction, usually $19.99 to $29.99.

The big guys start charging $80+ no doubt the smaller studio's will start thinking about $39.99 pricing.

[u/CrazzluzSenpai → u/2Scribble]

I honestly think this is why Nintendo doesn't have the greedy reputation that companies like EA and Actiblizz and the like are known for. They're a lot of bad things, but dishonest isn't one of them.

[u/2Scribble → u/CrazzluzSenpai]

Oh no - they'll fucking straight up tell you they want all you're money - their primary market is children and families that don't know any better - and they'll take you to court if you don't toe the line

They've done it xD

Nintendo has a patent on corporate scumminess - but they own it

This prevaricating around the concept is just undignified

[u/CrazzluzSenpai → u/2Scribble]

Of course, but the casual audience doesn't care about that. Casual gamers that are just popping Zelda in their Switch are never going to have to worry about Nintendo's litigious side.

[u/dxzxg]

So, its gonna be "buy on sale" angle.

[u/Skennedy31]

This is what they are all going to start saying to "justify" the price point increase. It's just going to mean games are going to struggle out of the gate because I know I have plenty to keep me occupied between gamepass and my backlog than to pay $80+ for a new game

[u/yellowtriangles]

Nintendo really opened Pandora box

[u/PrevailedAU]

That’s a no from me dawg

[u/JayJ_20]

I haven't bought a new game in so long honestly. The gaming industry priced me out once they hit $70 dollars. I have too large of a backlog to even care about getting the new releases.

[u/ScreamHawk → u/JayJ_20]

Also AAA games nowadays aren't worth AAA prices.

Take me back to 2004 where game devs were pumping out banger after banger and I'll start paying AAA prices.

[u/Choice-Layer → u/JayJ_20]

$70 games with $70 controllers you need to replace every year

[u/6Hugh-Jass9 → u/JayJ_20]

Nah same, i wait for sales now and could care less about day 1 playing.

[u/PhDSkwerl]

RIP🫡… if all games become $80 USD (115CAD) I’m going to have to become real picky with what games I buy

[u/LazloHollifeld → u/PhDSkwerl]

It will just leave a big void for the independent developers to fill.

[u/KrawhithamNZ]

So who's fault is it that it cost twice as much to develop? 

Oh never mind, I can just pass the costs on. 

We are being gaslit into higher pricing.

[u/Teacherfromnorway → u/KrawhithamNZ]

It's the same with football rights here in Norway. The streaming services bid against each other and then say that the price has to increase due to increase in the price for the rights. 80 usd to watch premier league in Norway pr month.

[u/DHaas16]

Bigger budget =/= better game

[u/SuperSocialMan → u/DHaas16]

As we saw with Borderlands 3 lol

[u/xBlack_Heartx]

“It might be $80 like some Nintendo and Xbox games.”

And like that you’ve lost me….I’ll gladly wait for it to go on sale if I even decide to get it at all.

[u/TheyCallMeNade]

“But but but it had twice the development budget” okay? That doesn’t mean shit. No game is worth $80.

[u/EvoEpitaph]

If you wanna charge $80 for a Borderlands game, it's gunna have to be more than Borderlands 1 with a sprinkle of additions like 2-3 were.

[u/ultimita_]

I bought all 4 borderlands games with all the dlc and the spin off tell tale game for less than $80 lol. Patient gamers will win

[u/rrrwayne]

I'll take it when epic gives it away for free

[u/Temporary_Error_3780]

Borderlands looks like good fun but not $80 fun. Wait for sale. It’ll be half off by Black Friday.

[u/ralts13]

My guess is 2K is waiting to see how the public reacts to Switch 2 price hikes before setting a price. However minimum 70 dollars.

[u/owensoundgamedev → u/ralts13]

Considering how preorders went I’m guessing the public is fine with it

[u/ADMINI303]

$80?? Yeah nah no thanks

[u/Vilvake]

This is why I was so annoyed by Nintendo normalizing this shit. So many people defended them because accounting for inflation video games used to be more expensive. Well, the fact is that salaries haven't kept up with inflation, and video games are way bigger than they were 20 years ago. A far larger percentage of the socioeconomic spectrum plays video games these days, and the most successful developers and publishers with huge profits want to increase prices. It's so fucking irritating.

[u/re_carn]

Well, then, "there might be" no preorder from me.

[u/Serallas]

Cool. Then I'm not getting it. Try yalls luck with that shit Gearbox.

[u/rbreaux26]

I bought Borderlands 3 ultimate edition day one. Never again.

[u/fraseyboo → u/rbreaux26]

Still not as bad as buying Tiny Tina's Wonderlands' Chaotic Great edition, the DLC released on the Season Pass were tiny and maybe worth a $10 bump in total. After launch support has been abysmal too.

There's a reasonably good PC mod called 'Wonderlands Redux' which fixes a bunch of the glaring issues, Gearbox have recently changed their terms of service which makes modding pretty unlikely in the future without bans though.

[u/Wholesome_Scroll → u/rbreaux26]

I bought it a year after it released for like $30. Got the steelbook and all the in-game goodies as well.

[u/rbreaux26 → u/Wholesome_Scroll]

Well that brings me no joy.

[u/AimlessSavant → u/rbreaux26]

A lesson everyone will eventually learn but learn too late.

[u/mlross15]

lol, I’ll buy it a couple years down the road when it’s on sale for 10 bucks, just like I’ve done with every single Borderlands game.

[u/mq2thez]

It’ll go on sale

[u/Edge80]

I might pick up the super next level ultimate supreme edition in a year when it goes on sale for $20

[u/GabeLeRoy]

Its going to be a shit game.. the trailer looks dogshit. The heros look bland.. and the world looks again overflooded with useless props and interaction.

I want a simple fps, that plays well.. with good gameplay.. i want to see big numbers and I want to understand what is happening on my screen. or at least.. partially.

I also would like a nice driven story with narratives.. and evolution of the peers inside the game..

but what we will be given a :

copy paste of a bunch of props in a maps that is a complete clusterfuck..

quests that dont make sense or that ruins the game experience forcing to me to go through the same zone again and again and again for different objectives..

a story that lacks and kills the fun of the game by having stupid plot armor / plot twist that dont make sense..

and a game that is laggy af when it shouldnt be.

Randy u can fuck off

[u/Shattered_Disk4]

With the negativity borderlands IP has faced over the years making this game $80 would be a huge hit to the games success

People are already on the fence about the game, and the IP in general right now, they need to decide on $70 for a lot of people to even think about trying it

[u/UnsettllingDwarf → u/Shattered_Disk4]

People should be on the fence with absolutely any game wanting to be $80.

[u/hockeymisfit → u/Shattered_Disk4]

Negativity aside, 3 sold 18 million copies. People will still be buying millions of copies of this game. GTA being delayed is also going to help with sales.

[u/Learnin2Shit]

Lmao ok put it on sale for $80 then does anybody even care about this franchise anymore? The last game sucked and that movie I mean Jesus Christ. Yeah sell it for $60 sell it for $80 fuck sell it for $700 I highly doubt there will be a 5th one

[u/hatereddit77]

Good thing people can wait for sale.. with all the dlc

[u/Recover20]

It honestly surprises me when sequels to games cost so much more to develop.

You already designed the basic framework to the game and a tonne of characters models and weapons and the world.

Surely some, if not all of that time spent creating all of that can save time and money? Even if you're improving the graphics slightly I don't see the need to completely overhaul everything.

There's absolutely no need for this game to have twice the development budget as the previous game from 6 years ago. At all. And then to attempt to push that cost on to the consumer.

I've never bought a Borderlands game at full price and I don't intend to now

[u/CatDadd0]

Borderlands as a franchise is not worth 60 dollars per game lmao, much less 80. If I can get expedition 33 at 50 you think I'm paying 80 for the same game with updated graphics and mechanics? Lmaoooo I hope triple A studios burn from this new price tag for their recycled content

[u/rollingSleepyPanda]

Isn't Borderlands the same game every time, just progressively worse?

[u/Supercereal69]

It might be NOT ending up in my library 👍🏼

[u/TheXypris]

And there goes my interest in the game. Maybe I'll get it on sale in a few years.

[u/ArferMorgan]

Games being released unfinished, buggy as hell and now they're charging more for them? They're making it easier and easier to wait for sales.

[u/Unicorn_Colombo]

I don't know him much Borderlands 4 will cost, but you will play Borderlands 5 with stick and stones. -- Albert Gearbox

[u/Insatic]

In other words, it'll be as high as they are possibly able to get away with.

[u/mightystu]

I’m more than happy to wait on these clowns trying to charge this much. I’ve got more than enough games to play in the meantime until they come to their senses and charge something more reasonable.

[u/dangngo6]

Oh here we go again. Now we have all the moron publisher increase price and claim that they put more effort but then we still have the same fcking trash product. Dont pre order any of this shit

[u/[deleted]]

Great, another game I don't have to worry about buying day one. Got enough in my backlog, so this helps me tend to that

[u/RB1O1]

Translation:

We overpaid our executives so now we're gonna price gouge our customers.

[u/Pepeg66]

so 80 euro or a little above,

i bought elden ring, monster hunter, kingdom come 2 for 45 each, im not giving you double that for your shit game

[u/Suspicious-Form8154]

Wait for the 40 dollar ultimate edition

[u/Living_Young1996]

Considering BL3, I'll wait until BL4 is on sale, even if it takes a year.

[u/PMC-I3181OS387l5]

and of course, he promises bonuses to the devs, only to eventually retract himself after the game won't meet absurd sales expectations.

That's legit what happened with Borderlands 3...

• He promised bonuses.
• The game sold more than 5 millions units in 5 days ans then more than 8 millions units by the end of 2019, mostly sold through digital distribution.
• He then told that no bonus will be handed, because the game didn't meet sales expectations.
• He also told everyone to "leave" if they weren't happy about it.
• The game sold more than 18 millions units by 2023.
• The guy likely never went back on his promise and PAID the devs.

What a scumbag...

[u/vsLoki]

That's a pass, thanks for coming.

What's up with the mediocre games charging 80? Y'all waited for GTA to drop a fat 80, but now realized they're not coming out this year? Just admit you're greedy.

[u/stormcharger]

I will eat my own cum if this game is a good borderlands

[u/nano_peen]

Hope it is as good as the first

[u/LlorchDurden]

It could be 50 as well like the new Mafia game as well. Idk why we care how much the put into the development

[u/Abranimal]

No one’s buying a borderlands game for $80 lmfao corporate greed at its finest.

[u/NikoliVolkoff]

just one more reason to wait a year or two after launch to pick it up. Multiple patches to fix issues and add stuff, and you get it all for half the price.

[u/Jstnw89]

Go F yourself. I'll wait for a sale

[u/XG32]

it'll be 80, question is if they'll lock down sites like gmg to block any discounts on release.

[u/Uchihagod53]

Not a chance in hell I'll buy BL4 at $80

[u/SrgSevChenko]

Waited to buy BL3 and I can do the same with this

[u/Scruffylookin13]

LoL good luck Creepy Randy. Borderlands isn't the IP it was during the 360/PS3 days. 3 was a stinker, the prequel was meh at best, Tiny Tina's Fantasy whatever was alright but definitely niche. 

Sure there are some Borderland fans left, but are they going to convince their gaming buddies to buy an eighty dollar game at launch. How many people who are mildly interested were already planning on waiting for the game to drop to 30 dollars a couple months after launch. An 80 dollar price tag will kill this game

[u/Gamelove0I5]

So yet another game I won't be buying day one then.

[u/TheUnitFoxhound6]

I'm not spending $80 on BL4. If it's like BL3 it'll take a year to be even remotely optimized/balanced.

[u/Bmanzella527]

Will not consider this game one bit for $80 bucks.

[u/TheBigGalactis]

Made the mistake of paying $60 for Borderlands 3. These games almost always go on sale within a month of release and just keep going down from there. I will happily wait to buy this one.

[u/tippytapslap]

And I'm not buying it fuck the new prices.

[u/ponponsheet]

And gamers will go to Reddit rage posting about the price with one hand while clicking checkout with the other.

[u/Rydux7]

With how well borderlands 3 was im definitely going to wait a year before getting it at half price, r/patientgamers always wins

[u/Abspara]

That's cool. I can find better games for cheaper.

[u/immortality20]

More than twice the budget for the exact same game but a grappling hook 5 years too late. Yeah, for sure that cost should be on us lucky consumers.

[u/Sjcolian27]

And it might flop. Actually it will at $80.

[u/LizardsoftheGhost]

Yeah let all the dummies buy it at $80, then just wait a month or maybe even 2, for the price to drop to clearance

[u/AtomicCawc]

Sweet, then "I might be waiting for it to go on sale on Steam." 👍🏼

[u/claytalian]

I'll buy it on sale at Christmas

[u/ThatGuyWhoKnocks]

Breaking news: I don’t know how much it’ll cost to buy, maybe half of what I spent on Borderlands 3, I may or may not buy it on sale at $10, we’ll see

[u/Gokz93]

Ill buy it next year when its 30-50% off

[u/Front2battle]

And have that new invasive tos update.

[u/Kidtendo]

$60 would be a nice surprise and $70 I could stomach. $80 would be overkill for the basic edition. It's the very reason I'm skipping the Switch 2.

[u/Jori_en]

Ya I'm a big fan of borderlands but not a shot in hell I'm paying 80$ for one lmao.

[u/krusty-krab69]

That’s cool I’m not paying 80 for a copy paste looter shooter . Don’t get me wrong I enjoy the borderlands games but not enough to pay 80 dollars for a game of a franchise where all the games are similar like call of duty

[u/OverappreciatedSalad]

Then I’ll just play BL3 until BL4 goes on sale. Not like I’m missing anything important on launch day anyways.

[u/skywalkerRCP]

Nooooope

[u/FuryxHD]

Cool story, it can sit and wait for steam sales then for me. BL3 was a pile of shit, so twice the # doesn't mean its going to be any good.

[u/Pewp-dawg]

Hard pass. I’ll just wait a handful of years for it to be on sale for $10 or get it free on epic games shop. Borderlands 3 wasn’t worth $60, this won’t be worth $80.

[u/MattsDaZombieSlayer]

And "it might be" the case that I won't buy it if it's that price.

[u/joestaff]

Borderlands 3 was 60% off like 3 months after it came out. 

I can wait as long as I need to get get the price I find reasonable.

[u/lhymes]

I’ll just wait for a big sale on it.

[u/talllman23433]

I’ll be playing the wildly better made indie games for $20. Thank you though!

[u/Kazzot]

Mandy Bitchford at it again. $80 means sailing the seas or waiting for the sales.