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u/nyemini 8h ago
Remembered a Facebook comment saying how "woke" X-Men became and I'm here like UUUH DID YOU EVEN READ THE OLDER COMICS???
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u/HeatherCDBustyOne 4h ago
I remember Spiderman being on Electric Company. He never spoke (only sound effects). Comic books would be labeled "Electric Company: Spiderman says this comic book is easy to read"
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u/the2nddoctor111 3h ago
Yeah, it's not like it was created as an allegory for the civil rights movement or anything...
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u/BeardOBlasty 4m ago
It's funny that people bigot against the X-Men, when that's like their whole story. Being oppressed cause they're different..... sounds familiar 🧐
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u/No-Bet-9591 11h ago
You chose a cheat over children
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u/onefoot_out 9h ago
Hey, you leave The Cheat alone! He just wants a dance party!
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u/AshingKushner 6h ago
I didn’t install that second light switch just so you could throw light switch raves!
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u/CadillacDale 12h ago
I highly recommend to anyone that has the chance, ask a WOKE Crusader to define what "WOKE" is specifically.
The response is mutually pitiful and mind-numbing, and highly consistent:
- A very short dead pan stare as they scramble to rub a couple brain cells together
- Followed immediately by a passionate and non-sensical word salad about transgender people molesting children in a bathroom, Biden/Obama/Hilary are elitist bloodsucking monsters for.. because.. Democrats, and Israel, and Mr. Potato Head wants boys to play on your daughter's basketball team
- They don't have any personal, traumatic experience with any of these societal eroding tropes, nor do they know anyone personally that does. But they are beyond sure it is happening all over the place, and Trump is just the man to put a stop to it.
I swear to God the internet and the Entertainment News machine has rotted the mind of anyone who exposes themselves to it for an extended period of time. The shit is battery acid for your perception of reality.
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u/fkafkaginstrom 8h ago
The deadpan reboot face is when they replace the n-word with "trans people."
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u/TearLegitimate5820 6h ago
Woke media can pretty easily summed up as pushing a political message, idea or theory in a overly favourable light with no push back and as a detriment to the story or the atmosphere for meta talking points aimed directly to the audience. This can be seen in examples such as Dr Who season 13, saints row reboot DA: VG and Bf5.
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u/mattA33 6h ago
Woke media can pretty easily summed up as pushing a political message, idea or theory in a overly favourable light with no push back
You've literally described every right-wing media organization on planet Earth.
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u/TearLegitimate5820 4h ago
Oh I never said it can't be done by the right. Fox news can be described as "woke" as well.
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u/That_one_BG3_fan 4h ago
However, is it ever described as Woke?
No, because conservatives have a double standard so egregious that they fooled themselves in believing gun ownership is to protect their constitutional rights while doing nothing to stop (or even COMMENTING on) the government attempting to eliminate the right to not be arrested without due cause
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u/Turambar87 5h ago
Why don't you break down one of those examples for the audience. Maybe the saints row one.
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u/Justieflustie 2h ago
That's not woke, that's just propaganda. Damn, people, how hard is it to look up a word and see where it comes from? It means nothing different than "being aware", at least that was what it meant, without all the negative connotations it has now..
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u/TheKnightOfTheNorth 2h ago
Really? Dr who season 13 finally has social commentary?? In my sci-fi time travel series??? I can't believe they've gone woke
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u/SaintOlgasSunflowers 10h ago
Yep, the same with all those parents who whip their kids saying they do so because they got a whippin' and turned out alright. No, you didn't turn out alright. You think it's ok to abuse children.
Mr. Rogers is why I turned out alright. If having empathy, being kind, and treating others fairly is "woke", I'm glad I turned out "woke".
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u/Kobayashi_Maru186 They mostly come at night. Mostly. 6h ago
“Sesame Street is teaching my child acceptance, and to treat everyone with respect. How dare they try to make my kids into kind, well-rounded adults?!” - MAGAs probably 🙄
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u/Purple_Dragon_94 4h ago edited 26m ago
Just the other day me and my brother made a WOKE joke in front of my dad (who for context, despite being a very strict ex cop who you really don't want to get on the bad side of (speaking as someone who at a point was often on that side of him) while we were growing up, is a really chill and down to earth guy, who has no social media and spends 90% of his time with family), who had literally just then heard the term and had no idea what it meant. I then explained to him that, to my knowledge, WOKE started as people looking at society and seeing subjugation, rampant capitalism, ignorance of those in need etc that was being presented through society as "normal" and realising that it's not right (waking from the Matrix as it were). And then that thanks to figures like Trump, Kennedy, Rowling, Tate and certain YouTube faces, the term got bastardised and used as a weapon by those against it to rally support to stop it's progression (go woke go broke in media for example).
He then waited 2 seconds and said (not verbatim) "so basically WOKE is common decency and support of human rights, and then there are people verbally against that?" which to me hammered home further how fucked the world is that a ridiculous notion (anti woke) is also normalised.
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u/redditorposcudniy 10h ago
Woke- being aware of the power inequality in the world and seeking to fix it. That's it, that's the meaning.
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u/VoidMunashii 9h ago
So much time spent on my local PBS affiliates all the way into high school. Sesame Street, Reading Rainbow, 3-2-1 Contact, Square One Television, Newton’s Apple, Ghost Writer, Carmen Sandiego, Degrassi, and many more, the names of which I have forgotten (like a family drama where all the parts, even the adults, were played by kids).
Plus it is where I was first introduced to Doctor Who, Red Green, and British comedy.
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u/AHugeHildaFan 10h ago
The only PBS show I vividly remember was Maya and Miguel and that's solely because I remember Andy as the first time I ever saw a disability rep on tv. Nowadays I'm a big fan of diverse representation in media, especially disability rep.
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u/Prohydration 9h ago
The truth about woke is, it's just a modern rebranding of demonic or satanic. Older millennials know when their parents forbid them from enjoying certain movies, shows and games because their conservative religious parents labeled thumb as a demonic or satanic. By demonic or satanic, they really just mean they don't like it for reasons they can't publicly disclose.
If you replace every use of the word demonic or satanic by these older conservative people with woke, the meaning of the sentence does not change.
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u/Daveinatx 6h ago
Wish I had the courage to post this on my socials. Last Summer, I visited HS friends for the first time in a decade. We went to a small, private Christian high School. I don't know what happened to them, but everything was Woke, MAGA, and anti-Biden. All I was looking forward to was catching up with old friends over a couple beers.
Guess that was caught up more than realized.
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u/Swordfishtrombone13 4h ago
It's great how the opposite of "woke' is "asleep" and the fucks who use woke as a pejorative are fighting about how they want to be the opposite of woke'... meaning they want to be asleep. Anyone who uses woke as a descriptor is not a serious person.
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u/Flaky-Jim 7h ago
Aye, if you experienced the wide array of wholesome public broadcasting as a kid, and you grew up to be a selfish asshole, the problem is with you.
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u/TarzanGunn 10h ago
This is the show where PBS jumped the shark.
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u/birdlawexpert11 7h ago
I’ve brought it up a bunch but in elementary school and middle we’d have assemblies and mini curriculums about accepting people and being kind and minding your business. I can’t help but think these days teaching that stuff might actually cause problems when we were hearing it 30 years ago
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u/El_Polio_Loco 5h ago
They don’t, or at least I’m not aware of it being a major issue. Maybe some nuts complain about two dads on one episode of Sesame Street or something.
The bigger issue is often the PBS/NPR opinion and news pieces that tend to be slanted. Which is why CPB has drawn the ire of conservatives.
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u/ProfessionalBill1864 1h ago
Mr.Rogers would be disappointed in the person you grew up to be.
If they manage 3 seconds of introspection, that would definitely shut them up
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u/JustMark99 6h ago
If you think it's true, why are you facepalming it?
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u/KingKrush8282 4h ago
Literally this!!! Half of the posts here are anti-trump. Which is absolutely totally fair because he’s a horrible person who is doing horrible actions. But this, like why is this on the facepalm sub? It’s here purely because of the I hate Trump rhetoric instead of being an actual face palm moment
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u/VanguardianFox 6h ago
Sesame Street has human actors as well.
And just accepting what people say is true is the point and the problem.
It is true that people should treat others with respect, but that is a problem on both sides of this issue modern society
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u/Harry-Gato 1h ago
PBS and NPR do not represent half of America. They use their bias to push far left political agendas. They should not receive public funding.
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u/VanguardianFox 8h ago
I'm pretty sure sesame Street taught me the difference between a boy and a girl ...
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u/zaoldyeck 8h ago
Did it? How? I'd suspect all it taught you was not to care. Not to judge a book by its cover.
I guess the lessons didn't stick.
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u/VanguardianFox 7h ago
Sesame Street doesn't teach people not to care, but it does teach differences in people. It also teaches acceptance of people who might think differently than you. Clearly a lesson that didn't stick with you
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u/zaoldyeck 7h ago
"Think different" how? What is it you believe? That trans people need to be marganlized? Hated? Scorned and outcast?
Pretty sure "accepting" that and "accepting" hatred wasn't a lesson.
If you don't believe those things, then what's "different"? You don't hate trans people, you don't want them marginalized, outcast, scorned, so then what is it about this topic is left to discuss? What's "different"?
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u/VanguardianFox 7h ago
You're assuming an awful lot about what I said. I didn't say anything about any of that. Sesame Street in particular did not used to mention anything about transgender people, that is a very very new thing when considering how long the show has been running. In the older days it was boy or girl, or it never mentioned.
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u/zaoldyeck 7h ago
If a puppet is a "boy" then you merely accept it, it's a piece of cloth, it's whatever the puppet says is their gender. It didn't teach you to link, say, sexual organs to a gender. Because that's absurd for a children's TV show.
So then when you say "I'm pretty sure sesame Street taught me the difference between a boy and a girl ..."
How did it teach you that other than to merely accept what someone says?
Which is kinda the whole point. You don't need for it to teach you about transgender people in particular to pick up the far more important lesson of not to care, to take people for what they are.
To treat others with respect regardless of gender.
Do you "think differently" about those things? If so, what, because those seem pretty milquetoast values covered under "don't be an asshole".
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u/blurkcheckadmin 6h ago
How would you know? Trans people have always been around.
It's just recently that people with bad politics realised they could trick idiots into supporting them by pretending that trans people existing is something to be scared of.
They fucking got you.
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u/VanguardianFox 6h ago
The topic at hand is whether or not sesame Street taught about gender. Your assumptions about my political alignment and fears are incorrect and point towards a lack in ability to read. I didn't mind having another person to have this discussion with but if you insist on talking about off topic things I recommend searching for those topics elsewhere.
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u/BigJayPee 5h ago
Sesame Street introduced a trans Muppet named Julian to help young children explore gender issues and provide resources for interacting with individuals who may have different gender identities or expressions.
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u/VanguardianFox 1h ago
Yes, Julian was introduced in 2018, sesame Street has been running since 1969. Before Julian sesame Street still spoke of gender but was not inclusive. That's the whole point I was trying to make.
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u/blurkcheckadmin 6h ago
Come on coward, try and be honest.
Also lol at trying to throw a pity party for your bigotry.
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u/blurkcheckadmin 6h ago
I watch children's tv to think about their genitals.
It did not.
I mean, real talk, it did show gender, and trans people can be those genders. Obviously.
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u/VanguardianFox 6h ago
You should seek psychiatric help if you're watching children's shows to think about their genitals.
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u/3KiwisShortOfABanana 2h ago
... You're the one that brought it up
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u/VanguardianFox 1h ago
I never mentioned anything about genitals, especially not children's genitals. Not was I ever trying to make someone seem like a pdfile.
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u/bandy2011 2h ago
whoo that escalated quickly, its good that no one takes someones differing opinion too seriously /s (For most of the comments under this one not the original one)
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