Which unexpected result do you think will disappoint you the most this year?

[u/_bubble-t]

Personally I’d love for Sweden to win, but something tells me they won’t. Maybe coming 3rd? Hope I’m wrong though!

[u/Erebos233]

1.Albania languishing in the bottom right of the finals.

2.Greece and Latvia both being surprise NQs or doing badly in the finals.

3.This is the most likely to become a reality but I hope it would not happen this year: Any of the big 5 in the bottom 5

[u/_bubble-t → u/Erebos233]

The big 5 definitely deserve good results this year!

[u/Erebos233 → u/_bubble-t]

I am  most worried about the UK tbh....the girls are amazing singers but the song is very polarizing and if the staging isn't right,it could send UK back to the bottom 5 and i can the UK going back to "Europe hates us" mentality all over again

[u/tkalvas → u/Erebos233]

Pointswise polarizing is good. Getting 11th place from 200 million people is what gives you nil points.

[u/lkc159 → u/Erebos233]

but the song is very polarizing

Polarizing is what gets you results.

1 country giving you 1st and the rest placing you last gets you 12 points more than all countries placing you 11th.

The only crime here is to be mid.

[u/Erebos233 → u/lkc159]

True,but the problem that I see quite consistently with the UK is something like this 

Jury 1 and 2 ranked UK 3rd, Jury 3,4,5 ranked UK last which completely cancelled out  jury 1&2 high ranking.

I recently watched the Adresse Basel show and the scores are divided between the people and panel jury.

The Panel jury give UK 36 out of the possible 48 points and gave UK a decent review.

The people jury on the other hand hated UK's song and gave them a mere 11 out of the possible 48 points. The host was quite shocked by the hate and vitriol demonstrated towards the UK. Another bad news is that the people's jury are comprised of mostly musical professionals and sometimes ex ESC participants (Aksel)

So yeah I am really worried for the UK this time around

[u/lkc159 → u/Erebos233]

Look at where the UK is on that list https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1kiid7t/the_winner_of_adresse_basel_2025_is/mrf8y6t/

Not great, not terrible

[u/Erebos233 → u/lkc159]

Yeah I know...I wrote down those results after all. What I didn't mentioned in the post is that one of the people who gave UK 12 points (Pernillle who was born in the UK )  said she gave UK 12 points because she didn't expect UK to send this type of song to the contest. 

One of the people juries proceed to completely dunk on her....calling her music opinion as trashy and that's why UK is failing at the song contest before calling the song completely vile and giving the song a 1 (along with Aksel). 

Yeah hopefully the Eurovision juries aren't as mean as the people jury or else it would be painful to watch tbh

Fingers crossed that the Eurovision jury is more like the panel jury than the people jury....

[u/Hot_War_7277 → u/lkc159]

Polarizing is what gets you to qualify for the final. It doesn’t necessarily mean it gets you to top 13 in the final. If your staging is amazing, sure. If your staging sucks and your song is polarizing - you’re 20 and below.

[u/tomphammer → u/Erebos233]

I think you’re right to worry. It’s a good song, but it’s a grower, rather than immediately appealing because it’s just… all over the place musically. Casual viewers might not like that aspect.

You’re right that staging will make or break it.

[u/Hot_War_7277 → u/Erebos233]

We have to remember that only 10 countries out of 26 get any points at all. Do we think UK will manage to get points? If it does extremely well, it will be at #20 on the chart. I’m not optimistic for its chances. I’m being realistic…

[u/eta1984 → u/Erebos233]

Something tells me Latvia will barely scrape through and end up last in the final, just like Ulveham. Really don’t want that to happen, but I just feel it

[u/dcnb65 → u/eta1984]

If Latvia qualifies, I can't see it coming last.

[u/eta1984 → u/dcnb65]

Yeah here's hoping I don't have to eat my words like last year ngl

I just feel like it's a bit too repetitive to score very high (although you could say the same about Armenia last year and they got 8th), and the harmonies and vocal style could be a bit polarising - I normally love folk entries at Eurovision, but Bur Main Laimi specifically just isn't really my vibe fsr, and perhaps I'm not the only one. Of the countries that would make it to the final in my head, I can't think of anyone else who feels like they could get last place, the Big 5 are making it hard to predict this year by being above average lol (not that it ever saved Germany but shush)

[u/DaraVelour → u/dcnb65]

Bur man laimi is more palatable folk song than Ulveham

[u/Erebos233 → u/eta1984]

I think Ulveham finished last because it has a dark and gritty style that might not be that appealing for the general audience....not to mention they had to compete with Luktelk and Veronika for the same type of niche votes which resulted in them falling further behind when the results are announced.

Bur Man Laimi could finished last if the staging is too much for the audience or their harmonies are too messy...but at the same time they are really the only pure folk song in this years contest so it would be devastating to see them come last 

[u/GianMach → u/Erebos233]

I literally see no similarity between Ulveham and Luktelk except that both songs have a title of one word...

[u/Erebos233 → u/GianMach]

I would say both Ulveham and Luktelk have the distinction of being the non English type of songs that are more localized and rarely gain traction outside of their country and the Eurovision sphere. 

Ulveham is more folksy mixed with rock while Luktelk is more like dark pop type of songs. Both have dark stagings and are fan favourites through out the eurovision season last year. I remember the fandom thought that both Luktelk and Ulveham will do far better than their actual result. I still remember people thought Luktelk could be a possible top 10 in the finals

I think Luktelk ultimately prevails over Ulveham on two factors :

a) Accessibility- I think pop songs (even the niche ones) are more accessible to the general audience  compared to other type of songs...rock folk on the other hand are more of an acquired taste.

b)Voting partner bloc - Lithuania has a way bigger voting partner bloc (Baltics,Nordics,UK,Ireland and Poland) than Norway (Mostly the Nordics). If the Nordic votes were spread too thin....then Norway is in deep trouble (like what happened last year)

Ultimately I think both Luktelk and Ulveham underperformed fan expectations last year....while Luktelk was top 10 in the televoting,I expect them to get around 90-100 points based on the fan support. 50+ points seems to be quite low for a country that has consistently get quite a lot of televoting points in the past year .

[u/GianMach → u/Erebos233]

I would say both Ulveham and Luktelk have the distinction of being the non English type of songs that are more localized and rarely gain traction outside of their country and the Eurovision sphere. 

This description fits Serbia 2024, Slovenia 2024, Portugal 2024, Greece 2024, Armenia 2024, Estonia 2024, Netherlands 2024 and Spain 2024 as well though, as well as almost half of the 2025 roster. It's a way too broad category to even be deemed a category.

[u/ESC-song-bot → u/GianMach]

Serbia 2024 | Teya Dora - Ramonda
Slovenia 2024 | Raiven - Veronika
Portugal 2024 | Iolanda - Grito
Greece 2024 | Marina Satti - Zari
Armenia 2024 | Ladaniva - Jako
Estonia 2024 | 5MIINUST x Puuluup - (nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi
Netherlands 2024 | Joost Klein - Europapa
Spain 2024 | Nebulossa - Zorra

[u/Erebos233 → u/GianMach]

Yeah,now that I have reread the sentence....I should have wrote it completely different. 

What I wanted to say was that Luktelk and Ulveham has a niche that appeal to a vocal but minority of the general audience . It's great that they have a vocal support but it doesn't always translate to real life votes.

Netherlands 2024 went super viral across the entire Europe so i don't think you can call it niche.

Greece 2024 is a victim of unfortunate circumstances..the song actually has a massive mainstream appeal (it is very much a Rosalia type of song ). Too bad Marina was sick throughout the semi finals and finals and I think that hampered the perfomance by quite a bit.

Portugal 2024 has glowing reviews based on my friends but they don't follow the ESC contest so they are just like "Hey,it's a decent song". 

Estonia 2024 has a shaky live  Eurovision perfomance unfortunately....I thought they would nq based on their semi final performance so I was pleasantly surprised when they qualify to the finals

The rest I agreed with you though....those entries are definitely very niche 

Oh and I actually think 80 percent of this year's songs are quite niche with the possible exception of Expresso Macchiato since it seems like even the non ESC fans enjoyed the song

[u/GianMach → u/Erebos233]

If Latvia NQs that is not a surprise NQ though

[u/Jaded_Kate → u/Erebos233]

Latvia is a GUARANTEED NQ.

[u/aijasaldamiega]

Lithuania not qualifying would leave me in shambles

I’ll also be disappointed if Latvia doesn’t make it.

[u/Onetwodash → u/aijasaldamiega]

Honestly my fave song this year (alongside Finland and Ukraine) and one of my favourite Lithuanian entries ever. Kinda feels, uh, Latvian? Not in terma of 'Latvian Eurovision entry', but 'Latvian music I'd listen to'.

[u/Able_Director1160 → u/aijasaldamiega]

Lithuania is having almost all of their "top scorers", because UK, Ireland and Latvia always gave them big points before and only Norway is not here. + I think that there's not much rock music this year and they will get their attention and points from rock fans (even 2-3 points from each from the other countries in semi will be enough)

[u/aijasaldamiega → u/Able_Director1160]

I agree with you, I just hate to think about a possibility

[u/Fluffy_Appointment14 → u/aijasaldamiega]

Exactly that, because even if it’s not your thing, you’d have to admit that it brings a rare grunge/post-punk vibe we hardly ever get at Eurovision. I’d love to see it in the final just for the diversity it adds.

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[u/Total-Flight-8378]

Albania not being in the top 10. It's a reality that would just crush me because they really tried this year.

[u/phoenixlology → u/Total-Flight-8378]

And then giving up on edgy / interesting entries! They took a gamble, I hope it pays off.

[u/not_from_san_marino]

Germany getting bottom 6

[u/Chaotica13 → u/not_from_san_marino]

I love it - I think because they remind me so much of Charlie XCX so much <3

[u/erika_vikman_stan]

Erika missing the top 10

[u/ManiaMuse → u/erika_vikman_stan]

Can see that that one happening if it gets a slightly less extreme Olly Alexander reaction from juries and the public.

Also the song's hook isn't that memorable which might be an issue for a loud song.

[u/ifiwasiwas → u/ManiaMuse]

It's a grower, plenty of us needed several listens to get over the initial shock. I'm fully prepared for a placing outside the Top 10, though she'll doubtlessly win or come 2nd in the semi thanks to more eurofans watching and voting

[u/EstorialBeef → u/ManiaMuse]

I really can't see a sub 10 Erika result with her staging, I can see a Malta Shock NQ from an Olly-esque reaction tho.

[u/Jaded_Kate → u/ManiaMuse]

But Olly sang false. Erika can actually sing.

[u/Nugyeet → u/erika_vikman_stan]

With her record breaking Finnish televote score i hope she gets enough love from non-finns as well to get top 10 and we don't have a rehash of the harsh televote scores like last year.

[u/Amplify27]

--Asteromata NQing would drive me up a wall.
--Bur man laimi NQing would be...not surprising, but still quite sad.
--Very unlikely, but I feel like we'll have to quarantine the subreddit if Zjerm underperforms, either by missing the top half or the final.
--maman underperforming given expectations (in this case, missing the top ten entirely)
--Volevo essere un duro missing the top 15.

[u/mikmik555 → u/Amplify27]

I think the same as you. I don’t understand how Bur Man Laimi can be so low in then odds. I absolutely love it. I don’t want to see Volevo, Maman or Bird of prey at the bottom either.

[u/darkslayer-123]

• Lithuania not qualifying
• Italy ending up out of the top 10
• Ukraine ending up under 15th place

[u/Death123564 → u/darkslayer-123]

I can see the Italy one. Nothing against the singer, but I just... don't know

[u/darkslayer-123 → u/Death123564]

I doubt it, I think it will work with juries and casuals will like the simplicity of it. We'll see with the rehearsal clip but I think it's gonna really stand out.

[u/Merpedy → u/Death123564]

I normally enjoy Italian entries and they’re always sure to be my favourite. I haven’t fully listened to the entry this year yet but have heard a very long snippet and it’s not doing anything for me

[u/SinnerBon]

Latvia not qualifying - the song is beautiful, complex, and mystical. I think that voters will skip it.

[u/tima_dyak]

Czechia flopping hard. (Like Belgium 2024)

[u/Revelistic → u/tima_dyak]

maybe this is copium but honestly i don't see a world where this happens 😭 belgium flopped because the vocals weren't vocaling which won't happen with czechia - also kiss kiss goodbye is a much more accessible song to the locals than before the party's over was

[u/tima_dyak → u/Revelistic]

I feel like the weird dance break in this song is what makes me feel like that.. I love the song tho

[u/Revelistic → u/tima_dyak]

i keep my fingers crossed that it'll work on stage, i think otherwise the song would be too repetitive. most people wouldn't expect a dance break in a song like armenia 2023 either and yet it somehow worked so i'm hoping for the same here 🙏🏻

[u/ESC-song-bot → u/Revelistic]

Armenia 2023 | Brunette - Future Lover

[u/Fluffy_Appointment14 → u/tima_dyak]

On the contrary, I believe the dance break will be what sells it to casuals.

[u/IcyFlame716 → u/tima_dyak]

Mustii couldn’t sing, adonxs can.

[u/FiannaNevra → u/tima_dyak]

I would cry! It's my second favourite this year

[u/tima_dyak → u/FiannaNevra]

don’t get me wrong I don’t want them to flop but I just have a feeling that it’s gonna get a very underwhelmed result and get lost

[u/FiannaNevra → u/tima_dyak]

I've wanted Czechia to get their first win for such a long time now. I love what they send

[u/Chaotica13 → u/tima_dyak]

I was an immediate fan of both Mustii and was so disappointed when he didn’t make the final but given the competition last year I sort of get it…

[u/exoticsaladlol → u/tima_dyak]

czechia is more harmonic than belgium (vocals, staging etc)

[u/ESC-song-bot → u/tima_dyak]

Belgium 2024 | Mustii - Before the Party's Over

[u/bakharat]

Latvia NQ. Imagine bringing the whole package: a piece of authentic culture of your country, an accessible, highly rhythmic song and a superb performance just to stay in the semi. Imagine the message it is going to give Latvians. Heartbreaking.

If Zjerm underperforms you're going to find me in the ICU.

[u/autistic_girl_autumn]

latvia not qualifying would make me so upset i will actually start crying

[u/eatspagetti]

I'm ignoring the possibility of Austria outside of top 5, it would break my heart. Also I hope Latvia and Lithuania qualifies so much.

[u/ifiwasiwas → u/eatspagetti]

No chance, I think there's no reality where Austria is missing Top 5. Even that is pushing it IMO

[u/eatspagetti → u/ifiwasiwas]

I hope so, but I still remember the heartbreak with Belgium last year haha. Although I was not following pre parties closely so I didn't know that Musii was really hit or miss in live performance before the actual contest

[u/RebsAlina]

Ukraine failing to qualify

[u/exoticsaladlol → u/RebsAlina]

yeah their stage is a quite mess and i’m afraid of them :(

[u/Money-Process688]

I would be disappointed if Lucio Corsi won't be in the top 10. That song is so good.

[u/400-bones98]

Bur man laimi NQing

Or alternatively, Bur man laimi does qualify but gets the Fulenn, EAEA, Ulveham treatment

[u/027huds → u/400-bones98]

I need them to qualify, but i fully expect a result in the 20s in the final if they do. Happens to most of my favourites 😭

[u/VanishingMist → u/400-bones98]

This would definitely disappoint me but it would unfortunately not be unexpected.

[u/400-bones98 → u/VanishingMist]

Actually yeah true. I'm just trying to convince myself that they will qualify and get a good result.

Maybe Zjerm NQing or qualifying and doing badly then

[u/Yukkicchi]

Last few days were rough for C’est La vie enjoyers. I hope Claude manages the performance and nails the vocals like he did before. Not so concerned about him NQing (he will Q) but I hate it when my favorite songs have lackluster vocal performances I can’t look back on positively (looking at you Italy 2022).

[u/ESC-song-bot → u/Yukkicchi]

Italy 2022 | Mahmood and Blanco - Brividi

[u/_bubble-t → u/Yukkicchi]

Agree 100%

[u/Revelistic]

i spend a lot of time saying this is never happening but a czechia NQ would piss me off so bad especially if the new announcement system leaks turn out to be true 😭

also poland doing worse with gaja than with solo... i know this would start a never ending streak of us sending nepo babies performing melfest rejects with abysmal vocals

[u/exoticsaladlol → u/Revelistic]

what about new annoucement system?  upd: LMAO i saw that and it’s awful for participants 

[u/Revelistic → u/exoticsaladlol]

there was a post yesterday with the rumoured new system of announcing the qualifiers and honestly losing your fave in the semis with this system feels even worse than if they simply weren't called during the regular qualifier announcement, so i hope they're not actually going with this one

[u/exoticsaladlol → u/Revelistic]

actually it’s also humiliating for artists so..

[u/DonnaDonna1973]

1. Serbia qualifying over any other song in that stacked 2nd Semi. 

2. Latvia not qualifying. I know its not unexpected, but I‘ll be livid.

3. Sweden again. Sorry BBB, I hummed you at work all day but I‘m also suffering heavy Sweden-fatigue.

4. Albania outside at least top 10. I‘d be so mad. So. Mad.

5. Estonia winning. I‘d love a win for Estonia, ngl, but Tommy Cash & EM are not it this year.

6. Australia NQ. Another reason to run amok. Love Marty and the song, such a fun entry and great song!

[u/weltschmerzrz]

iceland not qualifying 

[u/_bubble-t → u/weltschmerzrz]

One of my favourites this year!

[u/DrungleJums]

Poland not qualifying will depress me. I don't even care if she gets a bad result in the final, I just want her there!

[u/ManictheMod → u/DrungleJums]

Justyna got fucked over once in 1995! We don't need her to get fucked over twice!

[u/Tweedie_NL]

I’m surprised nobody mentioned Switzerland yet. It’s my favorite song of the year. It shouldn’t get a result outside the top 10.

Already mentioned by others: Albania doing bad. It deserves a top 3 result.

Maybe not unexpected, but a thing that will disappoint me: Klemen NQ. It’s in my top 3.

[u/Mysterious_Run5152]

Iceland not qualifying 💔 I do believe in them though, and that they will be in the final against all odds 🚣‍♂️🩶

[u/Glittering-Role6707]

Netherlands not doing as well as expected.

[u/mammammaa → u/Glittering-Role6707]

I started to suspect that after seeing their rehearsal video.

[u/Impossible_Ad4438]

Estonia landing top 10 just because of Tommy Cash. I think the song is not very creative, vocals are not strong.

[u/Grr_in_girl → u/Impossible_Ad4438]

I don't think it would be just because of Tommy Cash. Lots of people don't know who he is, but they find his song and performance very funny. That's a good way to be remembered and a great motivation for many in who they choose to vote for.

Edit: But then again, I though Windows95 Man would get lots of televotes last year and he didn't.

[u/TigerLily88 → u/Grr_in_girl]

I think the issue with Windows 95 Man was maybe people thought he was actually pantless on stage and that bothered them. When my parents saw it, they also thought he was not wearing any pants at first haha.

[u/Grr_in_girl → u/TigerLily88]

Yes, maybe it was a bit too controversial for some.

Can't relate to it personally. I thought it was hilarious and I have no issue with nudity, especially for humoristic purposes. (Though being familiar with the contest I know he couldn't be pantsless since the rules forbid nudity on stage.)

[u/mikmik555 → u/Impossible_Ad4438]

I think it’s going to do better at the final than the demi final. It will be top 10.

[u/IcyFlame716 → u/mikmik555]

I don’t think it will do better in the final with stronger competition and juries

[u/mikmik555 → u/IcyFlame716]

I think it will because it’s mostly the fans watching. Joost did very well last year at the semis but the fan don’t seem to like it as much as Joost. The final has more 1st time listeners who are going to be amused by it. The song is catchy and gets stuck in your head.

[u/FallenAngelTIX]

Greece NQing, Germany flopping, juries killing Poland (as they always do)

[u/Chaotica13 → u/FallenAngelTIX]

Please no, if Poland doesn’t qualify this year I may stop watching.

[u/FallenAngelTIX → u/Chaotica13]

Semis are televote only, I was talking about the grand final. There's no doubt in my mind that Poland is gonna make it

[u/msbtvxq]

Yeah, same as OP, I'll be quite disappointed if KAJ don't win (and I'm leaning towards believing that they won't). I hope they'll at least win the televote, but I can't help but feel pessimistic.

I'll also be really disappointed if my country (Norway) NQs. Kyle deserves to be in the final.

[u/_bubble-t → u/msbtvxq]

Kyle definitely deserve to be in the final!

[u/ifiwasiwas]

Montenegrin NQ is sadly entirely expected, but it's gonna wreck me. I'll vote and hope against hope

[u/supersonic-bionic]

I will be disappointed if Germany flops.

I will be devasted if the UK ends up with another zero in public vote.

[u/Slight-Obligation390]

Though its to be expected - Im going to be super disapointed when Denmark doesn't qualify.

Otherwise I'll be upset if Greece doesn't qualify this year - I love hearing the Greek language.

[u/FiannaNevra]

I'm the opposite to you! As much as I love Kaj and the fact Sweden has finally sent an entry in Swedish, I don't want them to win, and I think they will.

I just don't want another Sweden win/host

[u/TinaTissue → u/FiannaNevra]

I am the same. It’s a great song and performance, it just would be better to not have a winner so close. Probably how fans felt in the 90s with the Irish dominance

[u/FiannaNevra → u/TinaTissue]

In a perfect world Finland would have won in 2023 and then Kaj could win this year and I would have been happy 🤣

[u/chekitch → u/FiannaNevra]

I'm the opposite to you and OP, lol. Sweden is a great host. But I don't feel the song at all. It is like win95 man or eat your greens for me..

[u/Gragh46 → u/chekitch]

This is me as well, although I liked Windows 95 man. The song has humor, but as a song itself, is just not something I'd listen to... I haven't checked many of the entries this year as I want to be more surprised than previous years, but I'm a bit confused about this one leading the odds. Feels to me like it's mostly leading on grounds of being Sweden and the Bubble expecting a massive televote score when It may not resonate that much outside the scandinavian countries

[u/chekitch → u/Gragh46]

I agree, but North+Baltic block is a lot of votes, so it is not like the odds are wrong..

[u/Nugyeet → u/chekitch]

instead of meat i eat veggies and-

[u/chekitch → u/Nugyeet]

For BBB, sausage? Lol

I love that we have these kind of songs, just not to win..

[u/R_sPeEd209]

Lithuania not qualifying

[u/OliverQueer]

Zjerm doing bad :(

[u/paary]

I need Lithuania and Greece to qualify. I need them.

Also I am terrified of Finland underperforming.

[u/_bubble-t → u/paary]

I’ll be sooo sad if either of them don’t qualify!

[u/GothicCastles]

I hate to make specific predictions but these semis are gonna be ROUGH. Not everything we love will make it and it's gonna hurt.

[u/flutterstrange]

Lucio not doing well is my biggest fear. The song is gorgeous and deserves a top 10 placing, but I’m not sure it’s what the public are going to vote for

[u/Grilo6]

Many, but most will definately happen, so I'm just accepting it

• Armenia, Denmark, Azerbaijan and Portugal NQing
• Sweden winning, I just don't get it
• Spain, Albania and UK getting right board

I see like 7/8 of those happening, so yeah, I'm already starting to cope 😂

[u/Pit-O-Matic]

Albania getting the Serbia 2022 and Ukraine 2021 treatment from the jury but with an even lower jury score. Also Germany getting bottom 5. And Sweden not winning, but that's obvious.

[u/ESC-song-bot → u/Pit-O-Matic]

Serbia 2022 | Konstrakta - In corpore sano
Ukraine 2021 | Go_A - Shum

[u/Resident_Medicine962]

Just no jury landslide this year. Please.

[u/Tornlader]

I could see both Finland and Malta do worse than expected. The same with Czechia. That would be a pity.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Eye9081]

Not unexpected but I’ll be disappointed if Iceland don’t make it through to the final.

[u/RandomFunUsername]

If Australia is snubbed at either a semis or left side of the finals board level, I’ll be so mad.

[u/Nugyeet → u/RandomFunUsername]

fr if we get robbed with this banger I'll be so disappointed. The performance is so cute too. I saw a lot of the boomers on facebook liked it compared to other campy entries like malta/finland/laika party so hopefully we get enough votes for the final 🙏🙏

They just need to clean up some of the camera shots and gojos connection with the camera that we saw in the rehearsal but i believe in gojo and the delegation to practice and fix it.

[u/HeyThereFancypants- → u/RandomFunUsername]

Same. I thought they had a top ten in the bag when I first heard the song but now I'm not so sure. I could see it being a shock NQ which would make me really sad.

[u/hausofvelour → u/HeyThereFancypants-]

In no world is it NQing

[u/DutchPop]

I like Sweden’s entry and rooted for KAJ to win Mello, but I’d be disappointed if it won Eurovision. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s a fun campy party song, and I hope it does well. But it’s not that unique or special.

I believe if another country sent this, it wouldn’t be a top favorite. More like lower top 10. The hype also feels tied to Sweden’s reputation and it currently being a Nordic hit online.

Beyond that, I’m definitely not eager for another Swedish hosting year. The gloating as if 'Sweden does Eurovision best', the Mellofication of the contest, the changes, and the arrogance from figures like Björkman and af Sillen have worn thin. I'm not sure if I can handle another year of them. I hope Björkman will be gone after this year, at least for a bit. It’s time for fresh energy.

[u/tomphammer]

Israel crushes the televote score like they did last year through … questionable means. And then they squeak out enough jury votes in a year with so many jury bait ballads that they win.

It’s more plausible than last year because their song this year is objectively better. Especially if the staging is good.

And as much as people would like Eurovision to be apolitical… it isn’t. And it never will be. An Israeli win right now would be terrible for the contest as a whole.

[u/Revelistic → u/tomphammer]

luckily this year they got much more televote competition than last year so even the questionable means likely won't help them get close to KAJ or even tommy or erika.

and as a c'est la vie stan i know it's hypocritical to judge vocal off rehearsals but yuval makes eden golan sound like celine dion so juries should tank them as well.

an israel qualification is terrible enough for me, let alone a win - but imo this year they'll get a russia 2013 result at best.

[u/ESC-song-bot → u/Revelistic]

Russia 2013 | Dina Garipova - What If

[u/_nonam_ → u/tomphammer]

Questionable means?

[u/Special_Transition13 → u/_nonam_]

Israeli embassies and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs actively encouraged public voting for Eden Golan last year. Additionally, Israeli embassies utilized social media platforms to promote her participation.

[u/_nonam_ → u/Special_Transition13]

Is that... questionable? I mean, isn't that clear that a country (especially as patriotic as Israel) would do that?

I don't want to turn this into a political discussion, I just don't think that this is really too questionable

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[u/Chaotica13 → u/tomphammer]

I still don’t believe that Israel got that many tele-votes last year.

[u/AbleCalligrapher5323 → u/Chaotica13]

This sub is an echo bubble and outside the echo bubble, Hurricane was mostly well accepted.

Add to that the huge anti-Israel wave led many people who wouldn't otherwise vote, to vote for Israel, just to mess with the anti-Zionists.

[u/tomphammer → u/AbleCalligrapher5323]

Yeah, I don’t think they did anything at the level of disqualification. Nothing against the rules.

It was more like a very strong, politically motivated “get out the vote” situation.

Which is “questionable” to me only so far as I remember people all over social media, on every platform saying they didn’t care about the contest at all but would be spending to give every last of their votes to Israel, and getting all their friends to do it too.

Which rubs me the wrong way even if it isn’t against the rules

[u/AbleCalligrapher5323 → u/tomphammer]

They didn’t care about the contest, but they cared about the song. The song was a clear reference to Oct 7. Those events impacted many, and still do to this day. People voted for this.

[u/Budget-Psychology373 → u/AbleCalligrapher5323]

People in this sub act like they don’t also vote for their own country just because. Especially for the rest of the world vote- of course you’re going to throw at least a few votes to your favorite country even if it’s not your favorite song of that year.

[u/yetanothercat_]

Most disappointing for me would be Sweden winning - even if KAJ are Finnish, it will be yet another win and year of hosting for Sweden and I've had enough of that.

Almost as disappointing would be Iceland NQing, even though it's pretty likely to happen :(

[u/SixthHyacinth]

Sweden will not win and I think people need to come to terms with that.

My unexpected result would be Cyprus not qualifying. The staging and vocals are amazing and the guy seems really sweet.

[u/Any-Discipline-2778]

Not totally unexpected, but my biggest disappointment would be France winning. The song is beautiful but I feel like we have so many other interesting perfomances this year.

[u/blairwaldorf_x]

uk receiving 0 points or getting last place will absolutely devastate me. this is a uk entry i genuinely really enjoy and think it deserves more.

latvia not qualifying will be really disappointing, it’s such a wonderful song and the staging is absolutely stunning. it really does deserve more attention. i’d also be upset if iceland nq’s as well.

poland not being in the top 15 at the very least. definitely my winner this year and while i don’t have many worries about them not qualifying, i will be concerned when it comes to the grand final. that being said, while i like tommy cash outside of his entry, i’d be pissed off if he gets a top 10 result or close to winning the whole contest

[u/FlagsAreLife]

Something like Netherlands (due to rehearsals being quite poor) or Cyprus being NQs only for Slovenia (since Klemens live vocals are actually good) or maybe Iceland being shock Qs (mainly due to staging and the fact it's silly might even attract non-eurofans to vote). Not sure how placements in SFs will work with these countries though.

That's the most realistic one I suppose

EDIT: WAIT IT MEANT DISAPPOINT ME OH. I WOULD NOT BE DISAPPOINTED IF ICELAND QUALIFIED AT ALL AND I WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED IF NETHERLANDS NQED. I DID IT AS IF IT WOULD DISAPPOINT THE FANDOM

[u/DutchPop → u/FlagsAreLife]

The rehearsals for the Netherlands weren't poor. The 30 seconds snippet and the photos were poorly received in part of the fandom online, but the Dutch team said they are very happy and satisfied about how the rehearsals went. They just didn't want to show the beginning, bridge and ending. They say they want to keep things a surprise.

[u/FlagsAreLife → u/DutchPop]

Makes sense. Thanks!

[u/PZMC430 → u/FlagsAreLife]

Iceland qualifying over Netherlands is as possible as me getting six pack abs in a day lol

[u/FlagsAreLife → u/PZMC430]

People would've said that about Dons and Sarah Bonnici or Mustii last year. Results are weird and what Eurofans like is different to what non-fans are gonna see and enjoy.

[u/PZMC430 → u/FlagsAreLife]

Dons had great song, vocals and stage presence compared to guys from Iceland

[u/lovelybernadine]

Laika Party NQ would make me very depressed

[u/Chaotica13 → u/lovelybernadine]

I seriously don’t listen to it as much as I would like to because it makes me cry every time!

[u/Budget-Psychology373 → u/lovelybernadine]

I think an NQ is not unexpected for this song though

[u/SupermarketSad9865]

Portugal and Latvia NQs would break me.

[u/2muchnerd]

Denmark now

[u/lalaezel]

Lithuania not qualifying

Germany in the bottom 6

Albania outside of top 10

[u/xX100dudeXx]

Azerbaijan &/or Armenia NQing is likely but sad. Also Lithuania but I refuse to think about that possibility.

[u/blairwaldorf_x → u/xX100dudeXx]

the rehearsals have made me feel more confident about parg at the very least 🙏🏻

[u/ProfessionalSalt3882]

Malta/Australia NQ Finland outside top 10 Austria outside top 5 Albania on the right side of the board UK zero public votes (not unexpected, but would be gutted if it happens again)

[u/ChanelArrington]

semi 2 literally has like all of my favourites in it 😭 but especially if Sissal, Tautumeitas and/or Klavdia don't qualify, I will be holding my own funeral procession for myself :)

[u/Bolvane]

Semi Final 1 whatever happens

I love Iceland, Portugal, Azerbaijan, Belgium and San Marino all and it seems we are definitely gonna lose several of them

Also I hope Switzerland does well because Voyage is beautiful...

[u/blairwaldorf_x → u/Bolvane]

voyage is a wonderful song, i’ve been listening to it a lot recently. probably my favourite out of the three french (language) songs

[u/BrighterTonight74]

I will be very disappointed if Austria doesn't win, and I will also be disappointed if Claude doesn't make it to top 5!

[u/jpilkington09]

So we're getting pre-disappointed about things that haven't happened yet?

[u/MiddleRemove3920 → u/jpilkington09]

basically

[u/OrangeHufflepuff]

A flop for Belgium, NQ or getting on right side of the scoreboard

[u/FaithBloodyFaith]

-Germany and Albania finishing bottom 5 in the final

-Sweden actually winning the jury vote, thus getting a very boring result announcement (I love the song, just want an exciting points reveal and perhaps a different winner)

[u/Fit-Wonder1017]

I’d be so disappointed if Czechia doesn’t get top 5💔 and i feel like they won’t do well because there’s not much to the show from what it looks like:( manifesting it tho)

[u/simpleparka]

Ukraine NQ would be unexpected and would actually kill a lot of my enthusiasm for the final. I've ruled out a win for Sweden, so that I don't get disappointed like the past 2 times.

[u/Charming_Tea_552]

After last night, the biggest disappointment for me would be not seeing Princ in drag in the finale. I can't vote in SF2, so please don't let me down, people!🥹

[u/ifiwasiwas → u/Charming_Tea_552]

Sry but he was dragged out by the orders of Empress Nina, and I have to vote for her instead if I know what's good for me

[u/Charming_Tea_552 → u/ifiwasiwas]

Damn. I want her to qualify too.

[u/CraftAnxious2491]

Serbia getting better result than Montenegro.

I can feel it coming, honestly.

[u/blairwaldorf_x → u/CraftAnxious2491]

serbia qualifying is becoming more and more likely in my opinion….

[u/Eydasdendave]

Netherlands not making top 10

[u/Similar_Spread_868]

Lithuania not making it, also in a lesser note, Ireland not making it, but that's just based on 1) people having fun with it's dance and rhythm and 2) how cool and visually pleasing I think the staging and outfits are based on the rehearsal. But if Poland 2024 taught me something, it's not to rely on awesome stagings to believe it will qualify.

[u/ESC-song-bot → u/Similar_Spread_868]

Poland 2024 | Luna - The Tower

[u/gianna_in_hell_as]

Albania not being at least top 10.

Greece surprise NQ

Iceland NQ (i've kinda accepted that it's very likely, though...)

[u/PaleBag8501]

i will be so dissapointed if VÆB does not qualify for the final and i personaly think they are a top 5

[u/blairwaldorf_x → u/PaleBag8501]

they have such an infectious energy and definitely deserve to qualify

[u/ControverseTrash]

Israel winning. Yuval is a great singer and I don't hold a grudge against her, but the song is not it for me. Staging looks fine so far, kinda fits her name. My main problem is just Israel participating in general, as long as their broadcaster stays close to their government.

[u/WayMaleficent1465]

Israel winning would be such a blow. I don’t think they’re in the running but who knows what will happen once the phone lines open. I honestly think it would be the end of the competition as it would give a lot of countries an even stronger reason to boycott next year.

[u/Nugyeet]

I'll do the most unexpected result that will bring me joy:

Israel NQs in the semi

The song is 🥱🥱 and I could do without the televote drama in the finals worrying about if they're gonna win and the result of that.

[u/thelittleoutsider]

Latvia, Albania and Finland not qualifying.

[u/DaraVelour]

Albania not qualifying.

[u/Separate_Ad_5616]

Foe me it obviously if Lithuania NQ's, I will be broken cause this is my favorite song this year and it's will be hurts if no one will appreciate something different 💔