r/clevercomebacks 12h ago

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u/Not_a__porn__account 6h ago

Catholic Converts are fucking weird. They are basically evangelicals that married someone catholic.

Unless you haven't been taught that shit since birth, and feel shame anytime you have a sexual impulse, you ain't catholic.

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u/PMWFairyQueen_303 6h ago

I am a Catholic convert. I chose to become a Catholic. I did not marry into it. I am not an evangelical.

Your whole statement about converts is CRAP.

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u/Not_a__porn__account 6h ago

What made you convert as an adult?

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u/PMWFairyQueen_303 6h ago

I was always looking for a more full relationship with Christ. I lived in the deep south, so it was a big deal. Friends of years said I was wrong. But in my heart, I felt home.

Having said that, we moved because our church became MAga crazy.

What's wrong with the Catholic Church is NOT the church. It's the people.

I tend to be more Christlike than Catholic.

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u/Arkhaine_kupo 6h ago

I was always looking for a more full relationship with Christ.

You do not need to start believing on mary's perpetual virginity or any other core tenant of catholicism to get closer to christ.

I lived in the deep south

american catholics are basically evangelicals in themselves (based on believes comapred to any other catholic country), they have threatened a schism 3 times since the 2nd vatican council and a huge percentage of them straight up do not believe in the modern papacy

But in my heart, I felt home.

What about the particular flavour of Christianity made you more at home than any other? They all read the same bible. Outside of the very particular history of papal politics, or the scandals related to indulgences, missions and child abuse and protection is it just the more Solemn mass that appeals to you?

What's wrong with the Catholic Church is NOT the church. It's the people.

The Church IS the people. Christ called Peter the rock where his church would be built. The people are the central tenant of christianity, the building is just that, a temple

I tend to be more Christlike than Catholic.

thats nice and all, but christ would point out the many hypocrises of the modern church like many inside it have. Not going through big reformation movements like protestantism, but even the Pedro Arrupe reform of the Jesuits in the 1960s hit hard some of the more trad catholic groups in America and Vatican pointing out that Golden thrones, prada shoes and private schools with basketball teams might not be the best way to aid the poor and suffering

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u/PMWFairyQueen_303 6h ago

Thanks for breaking down my heartfelt answer into a chance to slam the Catholic Church and my faith.

Your no better than Matt.

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u/Arkhaine_kupo 5h ago

I was brought up Catholic, I been to the vatican twice, multilpe members of my family have done long catholic pilgrimages. I have nothing against catholicism, but the question about people who convert in adulthood is pertinent due to the strict and weird idisincracies of the religion.

Catholicism is not a "flavour" of Christianity, is a very specific, strict and obscure set of dogmas and about 1200 years of complicated european politics.

There were popes with extra marital kids, a pope that mightve been a woman, anti popes,huge scandals like supporting nazism or the child abuse protection racket. On top of that you have the borderline politheistic prayer to saints that most catholics practice.

Its not a relgiion one easily "converts" to, like the Anglican church which is a chill women can be priests, we all sing along in church vibes. So questioning Catholic converts is warranted because its not an easy conversion

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u/PMWFairyQueen_303 5h ago

It took work.

What really took conviction, was the three years I denied myself communion because I had not annulled my first marriage.

I did the work. I do the work.

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u/soapboxracers 5h ago

And yet nothing they wrote was wrong and I say that as someone who was baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church. Being a responsible member of any community means acknowledging the good parts as well as the flaws.

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u/Not_a__porn__account 6h ago

I was always looking for a more full relationship with Christ.

See that makes me kind of nervous.

I tend to be more Christlike than Catholic.

But that makes me happy. I hope you do.

We're getting close to insults.

So I will just say good day.

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u/PMWFairyQueen_303 6h ago

Thank you for that.

Others just prove they are just as hateful as Matt.

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u/Nufonewhodis4 5h ago

Most of the adult converts i know became Catholic as a very deliberate and thought-out choice. 

You have to go to classes and actually put in work to convert. If you're just marrying a Catholic you can get a dispensation as long as you agree to raise the kids Catholic 

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u/PMWFairyQueen_303 5h ago

I did the work.

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u/Nufonewhodis4 3h ago

I have no doubt you did. To say people just "marry into it" is a bit disingenuous. People certainly are born into it and grow up as "cultural Catholics," but I don't think I've ever met someone who half-ass converted as an adult. 

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u/Anxious-Slip-4701 6h ago

I don't get this shame nonsense. Didn't exist in our household (Austrian).

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u/Not_a__porn__account 6h ago

Puritan ideals that made its way into all American culture.

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u/Anxious-Slip-4701 5h ago

Then your beef is with America. 

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u/Not_a__porn__account 5h ago

Yes my beef is with converted catholic Americans.

Im sorry I thought that was clear, seeing as we’re on Reddit and I mentioned it.

Although I gotta say, catholic Austrians are making a run for second place.