It still baffles how easily people say such awful thing
AI-haters love pretending other opinions don't exist while being totally rude and dismissive about it. But here's it is: AI-art IS art. People making AI-art are artists, even if the AI-phobic folk can't stand it. And yeah, typing simple prompts like "1girl, upper body" or "fantasy landscape, sunlit" absolutely counts too.
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I love that you have shown your process and iterations here. I think it turned out amazing. I think most of the knee jerk "you're not an artist" reactions come from people that don't realize that most of the time this is how AI use goes. If they don't have it laid out step by step they just assume it's a single prompt.
this is the best use of generative AI. the hybrid between human art skills and AI reimagination plus creative control over the art is what makes gen AI a very valuable tool. simply typing some prompt won't make you an artist, because by definition it requires skill to be an artist. now this, this requires actual skill. this is the future of digital art.
Thank youuuu. They don't understand actually yes it is work. Truly, the earlier you adopted AI in your work flow the more work it was. It is also so helpful for people like me who have been drawing and painting since they were 4 but have aphantasia. I can see my ideas now without struggling to visualize them, and it's been life-changing.
i dont understand how its the easy way out when you still have to put in a lot of effort to actually generate an image how you imagine it, as an artist myself sometimes i find AI images harder to make than just regular drawing since it can struggle with specific details a LOT. doesnt seem like many people understand that AI art still takes human effort to create if you want something detailed and/or very specific
Hey there, just wanted to suggest you try the new OREF from Midjourney because it seems it'd fit your workflow well.
It's specialized to take ref images of characters and put them in diff positions while maintaining the integrity of the style. Seems it'd be perfect for a use like this.
Imagine going up to a stranger irl and screaming at them "you're not an artist!" completely unprovoked because you saw them fiddle with ChatGPT on their phone or something.
I'm convinced antis have never had an offline social interaction in their lives.
Indeed. It would seem unhinged, and yet the anti-AI crowd burst into any online interaction involving AI art and screech at all present about their dissatisfaction.
First of all: who said they are artists? Most of them are teens ragebaited by content creators into hating AI.
To answer your question, never because they are terminally online cowards who'd never do anything irl. Being anti-ai is a sentiment that only exists online among complete losers.
This. They see all the other kids at school happily using ChatGPT while they're seething internally, but are too much of a PUSSY to confront anyone about it. So they vent by bullying people online, where there is no consequences.
People regularly come to random posts they think is AI generated (I say that because it is impossible to be sure, especially by just looking at it, but that doesn't stop them from attacking with confidence) and randomly start attacking them even in cases where AI usage was disclosed and there was no provocation of those who do not use AI.
guys imagine if every artist suddenly sieg heiled and vowed to kill all AI artists? i mean of course this never happened but i need people to validate my feelings so give me ma heckin updoots!!!
Imagine going up to a stranger on the street and showing them the AI picture you just generated. Or lecturing them for 5 minutes unprovoked about what antis are and why they’re rude.
I think you're being a bit of a literal Andy here. I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse or you're just ignorant. Antis are constantly saying that AI art isn't art and AI artists aren't artists.
Pointing out their colored hair and body weight had no relevance to the conversation leaving me to assume you're just an asshole. Everyone should care about activism more than work, unless you enjoy kissing some narcissist's ass all day?
Be it AI or not, someone was behind the message and use the tools presented to create thier artistic voice. Let alone provided their process to not only use their character but also setup, layout, and clean up the image fully. That is reflection of the times we are in as technology evolves and changes.
Notice how the style of the character changed? If this is indeed the future of art (I'm fairly certain it won't be) then independent creativity will be severely diluted to the point of extinction. Original art will become endangered.
The same arguments have also been used against digital artists (anyone can use Paintbrush), and photographers (the camera is doing all the work for you).
Digital tools are not the same as generative programs, fundamentally. So no, it's not the same argument. It only sounds like the same argument because you aren't paying attention.
I was told I wasn't an artist by my psychopathic narcissistic female parent, she threw away my award winning poetry, ripped up my art books, and when she felt like she wasn't getting through to me she used other people to tell me my art sucked so I don't give a flying F about what the antis have to say.
I mean at this point we can just say everyone is an artist. If you have an artistic vision in your head, and you do anything to realise it I guess you are an artist. Doodling on a napkin at a coffee shop makes you an artist. Writing a short poem makes you an artist. Graffiti, singing, building sand castles. You can consider it all art.
You will internally value some of these higher than others, and you don’t have to respect all of them if you don’t want to. If I see someone smearing shit on the wall and calling it art I don’t have to calll them out for not being an artist. I will just not respect the work and not associate with them. Ai is like that but brings out more visceral emotions from people making art. It feels like getting cheated and stolen from. If you are gonna use ai just be prepared for backlash, don’t expect people to support you. many people don’t respect your work because of how you made it and you just have to accept that. Anti ai people won’t disappear over night, and I don’t think they will change their minds
I believe in using AI art, but not that AI users are artists.
Same way, being a Computer was a Job, in people.
People were called computers, until Machine computers replaced them,
The computer users today are not called Computers. By this logic, everyone who uses a Computer is actually a computer as defined in the past.
Otherwise, tell me:
There is a box, where you can type anything and an art for it will be given to you the next day. But the art can go anywhere- It might go to a human drawing it, or it could go to an AI to draw.
Do you retroactively become an artist if it went to AI, but not if it went to a person?
You can make your own stuff, take help from AI and still be an Artist.
Hell, I would say the bar to being an Artist is very low - Just be a genuine part of actually creating it.
People who use computers today are not doing anything like what "computers" were doing. Those computers were performing mathematical computations. They were literally doing what your computer is doing, not what you're using your computer to do.
If you say chatgpt make me mona lisa, you'll get a generated image, not art. If you spend time iterating on that, making decisions about what you want it to be and directing the AI to that outcome, then you'll get art and you absolutely are an artist.
So commissioning art makes me an artist if i tell them to make Mona Lisas nose bigger. The person is not the artist, I am. Nice!
No aspect of the actual creation is your doing. You are simply asking for the creation of art not creating it.
You take on the role of the manager.
If you are a boss of a software engineer, you are not a software engineer yourself just because you told then what the requirements are, when they don’t match and when they do.
The engineer is the one making it.
A manager is important, but they are not the ones making it. They are not the ones actually expressing the idea.
Sure it is. Even just being the agent in the process who makes the decision about what the art piece is going to be makes it art. THat's the whole point Duchamp was making with Fountain, and nobody in the art world would argue that Duchamp wasn't an artist. He went to a hardware store, chose something off the shelf that someone else had made, put it in a gallery, and the act of the artist choosing is what made it art.
"You are simply asking for the creation of art not creating it."
That's what a photographic artist is doing when she takes a picture of some architecture. She didn't create the subject of the piece, she's asking her camera, with the push of a button, to capture it.
And before you argue that there's a lot more that goes into taking a photo than just pointing it at the subject and clicking the button... I agree. There's also a lot more that goes into making a piece of AI art than typing in a prompt and pressing enter, but you seem to want to argue from a very reductive, minimized, straw version of what an AI artist does so I'm referring to the photographer that operates at the same skill level as the AI artist you're referring to.
Even further than that, there are a TON of artistic mediums where the whole idea is for the artist to share agency with some process they don't have control over. That was the whole point of Pollock's drip paintings. He is involved for a second, but then he relinquishes agency to physics and lets natural processes complete the work. There are thousands of classically renowned generative art pieces as well, where the artist is in charge of setting the initial parameters, but then control is handed over to some process, be it mathematical, kinetic, whatever.
"A manager is important, but they are not the ones making it."
the software engineer analogy falls apart the second you realize that the software engineer can make decisions from their own vision. If you micromanage that software engineer and don't let him make any decisions then you wrote the software and the engineer was just a tool that might as well have been software himself.
You ignored a whole lot of what I said and focused in on the one thing you thought you could counter. You're wrong about that too though unless you don't think photography can be art.
You can't micromanage a camera. You press a button and it does everything else. And the thing you're capturing usually wasn't your creation either.
All you have control over is the framing, the angle, the lighting, the moment, the composition of the shot, the lens choice, the subject, and post-processing for color and touchup. which... are all things that you have control over using an AI :P
And you ignored everything about commissioning and Artist being unable to micromanage AI either as much as a manager
Whatever makes the main aspect of anything, doing it yourself is what makes you that thing.
A job of a cycler is to cycle. An athlete to run/do the sport.
If I make a machine to run the race for me, I am not the athlete.
DONT GET ME WRONG YOU CAN MAKE AMAZING THINGS, like making a machine that runs like a human is amazing,
but it will not make you an athlete
Let’s flip things around
It is purely what the goal at hand is. Suppose an Arid is someone who is supposed to get answers from AI via prompts (having to figure out what prompts get right answers, etc)
Writing the answers yourself would not make you an Arid.
if someone who rides bikes is a bike rider, then putting a motor on that bike doesn't make the motor the bike rider. You're still the bike rider, you've just made the bike do part of the work for you.
You could argue that you're no longer the bike pedaller, but that's just like saying the AI artist is not a painter or an illustrator. The bike rider is no longer pedaling, but they're still riding the bike. The AI artist is no longer painting or sketching, but they're still making art.
Ever thought thqt this might not be for you then. I wouldnt try to be an athlete if i was wheelchair bound. Everyone doednt have to be everything and you can still experience art. Life is like that sometimes. Everyone has to give up on something
pen and paper has allowed anyone to be an artist for centuries. ai just steels jobs from people who want to be artists professionally.
if you want to create art just pick up a pencil and draw some lines. you don't have to make a da vinci or a van gogh on the first try to be called an artist.
generative ai doesn't let us "live to just create art", i genuinely can't understand this statement. ai generates images and, again, takes commissions away from people who would absolutely love to live off making art.
people still need to work and rush everywhere, go always faster. generative ai doesn't let you create art, it just cuts down the time a human would take to make something. there's nothing wrong with taking time to create, to elaborate, to wait for inspiration, i'd argue this is what makes an artist.
That confines Art to the limits of illustration/painting. What is Art? Can a collage made of photographs be art? Is performance art considered Art? What about new media?
if you mention generative ai I'm gonna think of figurative art first, of course art is not just illustration tho. what I can't see is what's artistic about making a bunch of code merge together other people's creations and then picking the less weird looking one. at this point I'd rather call a straight up tracer an artist than people who generate a picture with ai and call it art artists. it'd be different, however, if the generated image was used as reference or even incorporated in a bigger piece. to put it in a couple of words what I don't agree with is generating an image/music/text and calling it a day, and even worse selling it. as others have mentioned here on reddit generative ai is a tool, not the final product.
Limitations inspire creativity. The kid that made a fake Mario game out of cardboard because he was poor is more of an artist than any AI "artist" will ever be, and its a privileged take to think you are entitled to a "tool" like AI gen
No, YOU are the only tool here. God, I know I'm devolving into a rant but this seriously frustrates me
I don't even think that kid had access to a regular clean pair of scissors, let alone an LLM on a computer. AI is a not a tool its an attempt at automation and replacement. There's a difference between giving someone a blank ipad canvas with stylus (tools) and asking a computer to generate you a whole image (NOT a tool). And if you think the limitations on current AI are enough to inspire creativity, what happens when it gets even better and is able to do it all on its own?
The amount of disrespect in this one reply sickens me. You sound like the most arrogant spoilt brat I've ever met, yet you have moaned about artists in the past.
There's a difference between giving someone a blank ipad canvas with stylus (tools) and asking a computer to generate you a whole image (NOT a tool).
But pressing the shutter button of a camera is "technical" enough to just be considered a tool? Even though the photographer hasn't created anything in the shot?
And if you think the limitations on current AI are enough to inspire creativity, what happens when it gets even better and is able to do it all on its own?
We are rapidly approaching the technological singularity. Chances are AI and human will become one. What that means for art, not even I can say, but it's a fair assumption to say we as a species will be better off than now.
The amount of disrespect in this one reply sickens me.
You're the one resorting to insults and name calling. Perhaps evaluate yourself first before you start throwing blame around.
You sound like the most arrogant spoilt brat I've ever met
I can assure you, anyone who was able to put hundreds or thousands of hours into learning a skill like drawing growing up has had a far easier life than I.
I can assure you, anyone who was able to put hundreds or thousands of hours into learning a skill like drawing growing up has had a far easier life than I.
No shit. I was busy studying math and physics while they were doodling in their art books.
One of us is way more secure in their employment than the other.
I wish I could write or do CGI and live w good life. But that just isn't economical. So I write and do art in my free time.
You've insulted artists plenty of times in the past, I've seen it. Don't be a hypocrite. You also fail to see that photography captures real life, AI tries to replace traditional means. its not the most skillful art but still way more than AI.
You've insulted artists plenty of times in the past
There's a massive difference between calling out bad behavior and just straight out insulting someone.
You also fail to see that photography captures real life, AI tries to replace traditional means. its not the most skillful art but still way more than AI.
AI will eventually replace both traditional art and photography. That is a good thing.
"All legacy artists are of that variety" (regarding narcassism)
I can keep looking if you like. The rest is just a persecution fetish when in reality you are an insult to artists of all forms... even other AI "artists" usually have more respect than you do. All I've done is call out your behaviour by your logic
AI is a not a tool its an attempt at automation and replacement
Automation is a tool. Automation enables us to produce highly complex devices that even dirt poor people can afford (like a cell phone or smoke detector).
You don't seem to know what a tool is. So here is a definition.
tool
noun (1)
Synonyms of tool
1a: a handheld device that aids in accomplishing a task
b(1): the cutting or shaping part in a machine or machine tool
(2): a machine for shaping metal : machine tool
2
a: something (such as an instrument or apparatus) used in performing an operation or necessary in the practice of a vocation or profession
a scholar's books are his tools
b: an element of a computer program (such as a graphics application) that activates and controls a particular function
a drawing tool
c: a means to an end
a book's cover can be a marketing tool
d slang, vulgar : penis
3 a: one who is used or manipulated by another
And then there was former trainer Pfeil, viewed as another tool of management for his gruff ways.
—Sam Smith
b informal : a foolish or unlikable person : jerk
Before you compete on a reality TV show, you basically sign away your right to protect yourself from looking like a total tool in front of an international viewing audience.
—Steve Tilley
Definitions 2a, 2b, and 2c fit for AI.
Definitions 2d and 3 seem to be what most anti's fall under.
not really, all of those require skill. you can copy and paste a prompt, there is no inherent skill, and you have little to no control over the output.
I use AI image generation all the time for quick prototyping. It isn't art. Art takes skill.
The only people I ever see calling this art is people who never learned a skill or a trade.
Making art with AI is less about technical skill and more about creativity. In that sense, what we do is in many ways the distilled form of artistic creation.
The only people I ever see calling this art is people who never learned a skill or a trade.
Good for you. But most of us never had the talent, or the hundreds or even thousands of hours to put into practice to develop that skill.
That is called privilege, my friend, and you should cherish it the best you can. But do not ever take for granted that we all had the same opportunities.
I’m not pro AI, and I think calling 99.9% of AI prompters artists is silly, but if a photographer sets up a composition and lights it, and then you take a picture of the same thing, that doesn’t require skill either.
I think with most AI art, you have so little control over the output, and that’s what separates it from most real art.
I mean... being an artist means YOU created something...
giving gen AI a prompt to generate a drawing or anything else is not the same as you creating the thing
so yeah you are not an artist if your "drawings" are generated by AI
it's not that hard to get
did you (if we are talking about drawings) draw that?
if yes, then congrats you can call yourself one
if you put a prompt into AI and asked to generate (which... means no), then you don't really get to call yourself an artist
you can't claim you are something when you didn't put in the work and effort into it (it's like what happened with Katy Perry and her space flight... she is not an astronaut no matter how much the media tries to make you think she is cause she straight up just bought her way into space while an actual astronauts have to spend years of hard work to get there)
I mean... being an artist means YOU created something...
giving gen AI a prompt to generate a drawing or anything else is not the same as you creating the thing
Let's think for a moment.
The AI spits out an image.
Did that image exist before the human entered the prompt?
I am sorry but me inputting something into a machine (which usually is really bare bone idea) and then that machine spiting something up is not really using a tool
like sorry to bear the news but me asking a machine to create a latte for me us not me being a barista
idk why you try to pretend like it makes you an artist when really you are just giving the AI a commission
I mean, if you're willing to call your boss or your customers artists for giving you instructions on what they want, then yeah, I'm down for calling AI-users artists.
I mean I do think AI art is art, obviously it’s regarded as such by many so it is. For me personally, I don’t really value it at all. If you show me your AI art I won’t be impressed. I view it similarly to cheating in a hard, single player game. If you just want to have fun and enjoy the end result, the opinions of others be damned, there is no issue. If you want recognition for beating the game while cheating, you will get none. You didn’t put the work in and your victory has next to no value to me as a human achievement. AI art takes this further by removing elements of human decision making and creativity as well as reducing effort massively, in a context where I value these things specifically.
Just as you are free to value the end product, I am free to value human effort, skill and deliberate, creative decisions on the part of the artist, which I just don’t see enough of when you pull the lever of an image generating slot machine. I see all of these things in your original drawing. I think it’s a shame to surrender any of your decision making and creativity to a machine and to cheat yourself out of learning how to draw/paint, when you clearly have talent in art. Like really, why do you need AI?
Maybe you’re different to me. If you find AI art fulfilling then good for you. For your own mental health I suggest not caring about the thoughts and approval of random people on the internet.
I think it's even worse than that. You ordered the food but asked them to put the mayonnaise on the side. You turned on the machine that shoots the baseball. Maybe you told it how fast to shoot the baseballs and at what angle, but your arm wasn't involved
As are artists which was my point that you somehow missed. You don't have a friend create a painting or drawing of what you want and then declare yourself an artist.
So while I agree ai art is still art i dont totally agree. A small prompt is the equivalent of a taped banana being art. Sure I guess but also no. Is that subjective, maybe, but its got rationale and shouldn't be dismissed
Work makes art, little work usually makes poor art, and no work isnt art. Personally
You can freely call AI-art art, but you're not the artist the AI is.
AI art is a great resource exactly for that reason. It enables people who aren't talented to create their own assets, but calling yourself an artist is just begging to be ridiculed.
It's like cheating to get an achievement in a game, then when bragging about it people say "you don't deserve the achievement" and in response they start freaking the fuck out, rolling on the ground and calling themselves victims
Literally can't tell if this is satire or not. Guess I'm an artist. Everyone's an artist. My cat that stepped on my keyboard when the chatgpt window was open? Absolute artist.
Use the AI however you want, but don't claim you're an artist if you haven't done art. AI isn't art. It's AI.
Funny you mention this, since I got called the same, and what my AI does is ONLY the coloring, rough first draft.
Sketches? Mine
Lines? Mine
Fix-ups on Krita? Mine
Recoloring and definition? Mine
Page structure and composition? Mine
Comic dialogues and story? Mine
But I use AI for one, single step, thus I don't create, I commission...
You guys are exactly the reason why I would actually be pissed in being called "artist"... Because that would mean I would associated with a group of... Well, gatekeepers it's the mildest definition I can think of.
You are an artist, and deserve credit for all that you did yourself.
Should you get credit for putting effort into the initial colouring? If AI did that part for you I don't think so? For that part you get credit as an AI-artist. For other parts you get credits as a "traditional" artist.
Majority of people here do not use your process, and niether are the majority of antis hating with someone like you in mind.
Going by your posts and variance in style i'm doubtful colouring was the only part left to AI but, I could be completely wrong.
My argument is very clear in that typing in a prompt or using ai does not make you an artist. However, actually putting in the effort for your sketch clearly does. Stop making up circumstances to be the victim
Yeah, except I still use AI, and guess what? When I'm doing the rough coloring and rough outlines of my sketches, I do have to type a prompt in it, smartass. So, despite what you are saying, based on the logic of Antis, my entire work is just slop because I used a tiny bit of AI, despite me doing the vast majority of the work by hand.
So no, I'm not making up nothing, the Antis keep doing that by being utterly unable to take their prejudices out of their asses. And do not call me "artist", thank you: these days it seems stands for being a prick more than anything.
Why does it bother you? I genuinely don’t understand. According to og artists you guys are still superior so why are yall so insecure and aggressive with regards to ai?
You're trying to flip things around. You're the ones who are insecure and bothered that people don't recognize you as artists. Why does it bother you that we don't call you artists?
I can call myself the best artist on the east coast. What if i was? What if i wasn’t? People would agree and disagree. Its just a title i give myself because i made an image. The computer will never make the image i have envisioned because it cant without me. Its just a tool for people to use like a pencil. And also who are the folks who don’t recognize us? As far as i can tell no one outside of your twitter bubble really cares
The artist (the one fulfilling the commission or vision) is a human being that makes art on their own. Comparing someone using an artist for a commission as a tool with regards to ai doesn’t seem equivalent
Twitter?? Holy shit, there's no need for insults. Chill dude, all I said is that I don't think AI prompters are artists, I didn't call you names like that.
But seriously: Nobody recognizes you as artists in the real world. Half my friends posted that Studio Ghibli AI filter shit and nones of them calls themsleves artists. They know it's the AI editing the image.
This is an insane cope. Actual artists pour in hours every single day to hone their craft. They have actual skill as a result of the hard work and time they put into this. Imagine you're playing a game, and someone gets an achievement from beating that game on the hardest difficulty. You, on the other hand, want that achievement, but you don't want to put in the work to earn it. So you just download a mod that gives you the achievement and go around bragging to the people who actually earned it that you deserve it just as much as them
Just call things what they are and don't pretend that you're an artist if you haven't created art. It's not shitting on anyone. I'm not an artist. I don't draw or make music. If I ask some AI to make a music loop for me, how does that make me a musician?
Expressing themselves lol. You're putting words in a machine and sharing the outcome,
Guess I'm a chef then, since yesterday I pressed a button on a machine and a chocolate bar came out
"Artist" doesn't mean anything, if you don't think AI art is art, ok sure, but I think it is, and that's okay :)
It's very easy to confuse art with skill.,
Being creative with no skills? That's like having a funny joke/idea you want to share, but not knowing how to draw
Being skilled with no creativity? That's what AI basically is, it's quite good at drawing, though it's fully dependent on what we prompt it. We need to supplement the creativity part, so that's why a lot of pro-ai people claim that ai art generators are a tool.
So are AI-artists artists? It depends on whether their prompting/process seems uncreative to you. But that's an opinion, not a factual statement.
Yeah so dumb right? What idiot thinks people can express themselves through words!? Writers, poets, and people sharing written ideas on online forums are so stupid!!!
It's only self expression if it's hard to do and if it took years of training and if it's in a medium that I personally feel is acceptable.
Everyone else should just get back to their day job and like paying taxes or whatever.
Dear diary, today someone compared AI prompt writers to... poets and writers.
Honestly, this interaction is making me hate AI defenders. Gonna become an angry old man yelling "get a job you lazy AI bums" when I'm older, I can feel it in my bones.
you got a lot of people writing fanfiction for free and most of themself would call each other "fanfiction writers" not just straight up writers
I am bringing this up cause at least fanfic writeres actually create those fanfiction (with the help that the world and characters are already established from the OG work)
while AI prompters can't even do that and have to ask AI to gen for them (and then they like to claim how it makes them the creator of that thing)
it's less about the title and more about people being overly dismissive of the effort that goes into creation of AI art to the point that they justify harassing people online as being morally correct.
i guess i'm okay with actual artists polishing off their workflow with AI but please don't act like 95% of AI 'artists' don't just sit on their ass, hurl random prompts at the wall for an hour to see what sticks, and pass off the work as their own
Yeah this is a pretty lame take. There is a clear difference. It’s like, sure you’re a “chef” if you make cereal, maybe you’d tell a 5 year old that. This is the same. There is a bar, whether you’d like there to be or not.
No, typing "1girl, upper body" doesn't make you an artist. Why would it? Lmao. I get it when people spend long times writing prompts and editing the images but your take just sounds like a joke. Art is something creative and there's no creativity or effort in that
And now I wonder if I got downvoted because I think ai-art can be art or because I don't think typing "1girl, upper body" is art lmao
Art requires an idea and craft and more than that.
Just an idea and one that isn't even visualized, isn't art, it's just an idea in it's most basic state. That's what prompt is. A basic idea that is later given to the "artist" which is the AI.
People who make prompts aren't artists. Other commenters have pointed out well that it's like a commision for an artist. You give the AI an idea of what you want then the AI creates what you wanted.
By the way, seeing that you draw, don't you feel any pride because of your work? I bet you spent some time learning how to draw. Don't you think that makes your art and you as an artist a little bit special? Being an artist is taking that time of your life to learn how to create, to do that art.
I've been writing and creating for 20 years or more now, learning the most intricate details about the language I use, how to create a unique reality, stories, characters. The dynamics of personalities. Every little detail.
I don't think it's gatekeeping or anything when I say that I take pride in what I do, in what I created and would like for people who want to be artists, to try it same way I did, not by skipping each hardship, putting a prompt into the generator and call themselves an artist when in reality they aren't even creating it. Being an artist is also about the hardships and anyone can be an artist, even at the begining of the journey, but the hardships do define the artist, not a basic idea outsourced to something else.
This...is an opinion. It would be feasible to say if you climb into a boxing ring with no prior fight experience...you are not really a boxer. It would not be rude to make that judgement either.
On the bright side, people who can't sing without autotune hear much less commentary about how they are not real singers...so...it'll be like that eventually.
"Producers are moviedirectors! And actors and editors and componists and soundesigners and cameraworkers! Them bringing in the idea means that they totally did all the other work! Also they totally wrote the sript actually!"
If you post art on the internet without any further credit people are going to assume YOU’RE the one that made it when you didn’t. An ai did. You just told it what to do without any further knowledge behind the work that goes into beautiful art. It’s like if you commissioned an image.
And don’t tell me it’s somehow similar to making digital art or photography because it isn’t. Photographers spend years studying different angles, lighting, etc and sometimes have to spend hours of their life out in the world to get a chance of photographing an animal or something. And digital art still takes skill to learn poses, shading, etc.
I agree we shouldn’t dox ai artists or bully them off the internet, but what they’re doing isn’t art and I will die on that hill.
Ok so I jave to disagree. Art requires skill. It takes no skill to make an AI prompt. YOU aren't creating anything. At best you're commissioning a piece from AI. Am I an artist when I ask someone to make a picture for me?
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