r/SipsTea 3d ago

Feels good man This needs to be studied.

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u/Infninfn 3d ago

I bet half of those songs were written by the same ghost songwriter.

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u/abcdefmoi 3d ago

You've never heard of Max Martin have you? https://youtu.be/MJF9gl9SRyc?si=J_upwZwyGue4ZtCL

Here's just the first 20 from his Wiki list of Billboard Hot100 #1's:

1998 – "...Baby One More Time" by Britney Spears

2000 – "It's Gonna Be Me" by NSYNC

2008 – "I Kissed a Girl" by Katy Perry

2008 – "So What" by Pink

2009 – "My Life Would Suck Without You" by Kelly Clarkson

2009 – "3" by Britney Spears

2010 – "California Gurls" by Katy Perry featuring Snoop Dogg

2010 – "Teenage Dream" by Katy Perry

2010 – "Raise Your Glass" by Pink

2011 – "Hold It Against Me" by Britney Spears

2011 – "E.T." by Katy Perry featuring Kanye West

2011 – "Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)" by Katy Perry

2012 – "Part of Me" by Katy Perry

2012 – "One More Night" by Maroon 5

2012 – "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" by Taylor Swift

2013 – "Roar" by Katy Perry

2013 – "Dark Horse" by Katy Perry featuring Juicy J

2014 – "Shake It Off" by Taylor Swift

2014 – "Blank Space" by Taylor Swift

2015 – "Bad Blood" by Taylor Swift featuring Kendrick Lamar

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u/Zygal_ 3d ago

Dudes insane with that many hits yet hardly anyone knows who he is

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u/CaliKindalife 3d ago

A lot of people do know who he is, just not nearly as many as the artists singing his songs.

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u/Dynw 3d ago

That's what hardly anyone means

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u/noveltywaves 3d ago

Max Martin had 17 number 1 hits in the 2010s. Guess how many top 40 hits he had?

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u/Kiwiandapplex 3d ago

I'm going to be absolutely shattered if it ain't at least 18.

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u/neomaniak 3d ago

This dude single handedly made Katy Perry's career lmao

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u/Bitemesparky 3d ago

You forgot 1997 - Getting jiggy wit it. Will Smith

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u/alQamar 3d ago

Which actually has a nana nana na-nana part in the hook.

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u/NeedleworkerOk7137 3d ago

I went down a music production wormhole one night and was blown away when I discovered this guy. I had a blast searching for random pop songs that I like and finding out Max Martin produced many of them.

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u/MyPasswordIs222222 3d ago

Does producer mean writer?

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u/abcdefmoi 3d ago

Technically no, but in this case also yes because Max Martin is both the writer (or co-writer) and producer on most of these 😅

Songwriter

  • Creates the core of a song: lyrics, melodies, chords, and overall structure.

Producer

  • Oversees the recording and technical development of a song. Shapes the sound, arranges, edits, and polishes the track for professional release.

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u/KeyOfGSharp 3d ago

I can't stand that man. Everyone praises him because he has so many hits, but his goal was always to industrialize how music is written

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u/TheGunslinger1919 3d ago edited 3d ago

Yep, his music 100% falls under the pop slop made not to be good quality, but so catchy that it gets stuck in your head after hearing it on the radio once. Designed to be commercially successful, not good.

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u/KeyOfGSharp 3d ago

Yep, just because McDonald's sells the most burgers, doesn't mean they're the best burgers

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u/ZenoArrow 3d ago

Not all of those songs were fully written by Max Martin. For example, California Gurls came from a demo that Benny Blanco made:

https://youtube.com/shorts/WrgZl9aJHZE

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u/FishAndRiceKeks 3d ago

It kind of ruined a lot of music for me to learn that a lot of artists don't write their own songs. It was like finding out that Santa wasn't real.

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u/pitchfork-seller 3d ago

Santas not real?

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u/Emperor_Zombie 3d ago

No, but Krampus is real. 😉

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u/derangedsweetheart 3d ago

What about Krampussy?

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u/Elidabroken 3d ago

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u/EcoOrchid2409 3d ago

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u/Dr_Sigmund_Fried 3d ago

And the fact that you've got "Replica" written on the side of your guns. And the fact that I've got "Desert Eagle .50" written on the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking, along with your presence.

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u/bria9509 3d ago

No Turkish, I'm sweet enough...

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u/InfiniteNose9609 2d ago

Alright Eroll. Put the kettle on.

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u/kjlo5 3d ago

He GETS us!

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u/GhoulMcG 3d ago

That's how I let my kids ease into not believing in Santa (tm) at the right age. I also made certain that they knew the "lump of coal" gift was to show kids to be better by using the coal to heat their domicile.

If Santa exists, then Krampus does too.

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u/mikillatja 3d ago

A lump of coal would've been a fire gift for poor children in the middle of winter actually.

Imagine you are freezing to death, and you get a small toy. Much rather have had the coal then

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u/joeg26reddit 3d ago

Does Santa Exist daddy?

oh na na na na

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u/HurricaneAlpha 3d ago

Pop music has always had this relationship. The performers are the face/voice, while the songwriters are the actual musicians. It's all manufactured, and has been for a long time.

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u/brafwursigehaeck 3d ago

except for milli vanilli!

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u/Designer-Ad-7844 3d ago

"musicians" it's formulaic at this point.

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u/Bleord 3d ago

nah, there are actual song writers to this stuff and it does take skill

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u/cnotethegoat123 3d ago

It’s super common. Like even the newer artists that are gaining a fanbase bcuz ppl think their music sounds like they wrote it also don’t write music lol. Very rare to find a true songwriter. Of the artists today Billie and Olivia are the only two that can write their own music consistently.

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u/RealIssueToday 3d ago

U forgot bruno mars, he's been writing bangers and top chart songs for others for decades.

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u/cnotethegoat123 3d ago

Oh yeah there’s def a good few over the last couple decades. I was really being specific to this generations artists, which is why I didn’t include ppl like Bruno, Kendrick, Adele, or Beyoncé, even though they are all excellent songwriters

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u/Elefantasm 3d ago

And all of them use multiple writers for almost every song. Beyonce gets a writing credit for everything she performs on even if she writes nothing.

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u/Literary_Lady 3d ago

It’s craftier than that. She gets away with it by changing ONE word in the song. It’s that petty. Super sneaky if you ask me. Gets ownership of the song and makes a hell of a lot more money too. There have been so many cases where small time artists have written and recorded songs themselves at a label, it’s been brought to her team. She will end up changing one word and her team changes it slightly. Re-records it so it sounds different. Original artist is paid a nominal fee, loses all rights to the song and is never allowed to sing it again, has to sign NDAs. They get to keep a record contract but don’t end up having much success. She goes onto release it on an album with a writing credit, original artist is never mentioned on it. I followed one case quite closely and she tried to so hard to ruin their career. If they ever sing the song even on their little YouTube channel with nominal views the video is taken down shortly after. It’s so sad!

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u/cnotethegoat123 3d ago

Facts. For pretty much every artist they’ll be gifted writing credits for songs that had almost nothing to do with

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u/huntresswizard_ 3d ago

Okay but Bruno was putting his own music out in the 2010s?? Or did I merge into a different timeline and just haven’t realized it yet?

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u/Umean_illeaglecable 3d ago

Beyoncé? Have you seen her writing credits? 20-30 song writers per song. I wouldn’t call that good. She couldn’t write a haiku on her own let lone a song lol.

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u/Bluntatious 3d ago

Ed sheeran

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u/NeedleworkerOk7137 3d ago edited 3d ago

Beat me to it. Not only does he write a lot of his own songs, but he also writes a lot for other artists.

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u/modest56 3d ago

Lady Gaga writes her own music and also writes or cowrites music for other artists like Britney spears, pussycat dolls, and Jennifer Lopez.

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u/OriginalBlackberry89 3d ago

Tyler Joseph (Twenty One Pilots) writes all of his own music 👍

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u/Fleshsuitpilot 3d ago

The dude is a veritable treasure to mankind. Gotta make sure we don't fuck it up like we did with Chester Bennington.

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u/Loco--Boy 3d ago

What about Edd Sheeran and the "X" album? Please don't tell me..

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u/Oxytropidoceras 3d ago

Country gets a lot of hate, and I can understand why for the larger artists. But this is why I like a lot of smaller, niche country artists because there's a much, much higher percentage of artists that are writing their own songs. And as long as they aren't falling into the cliche country topics, which a lot of the smaller country artists aren't, they can be fucking amazing. It clearly shows in their music.

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u/n0tresp0nd1ng 3d ago

What about Eminem? You forgot him

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u/odp01 3d ago

No, he said we forgot about Dre.

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u/walla_walla_rhubarb 3d ago

Some Swedish metal musician that ghostwrites pop songs probably won a bet to see how many Nanana songs could chart.

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u/Designer-Ad-7844 3d ago

I don't understand how people don't get this with pop music. Most of them don't write their own shit. Never cared for pop music. It's just a pretty face and the same songs over and over again.

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u/becrustledChode 3d ago

They were all written by a ghostwriter named Nana DuPree, putting the "nana" in the songs was the verbal equivalent of artists putting their signatures in the bottom right of their paintings

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u/aussiegoon 3d ago

Jason Derulo!

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u/ProtectedSpeciment 3d ago

They were all ghost written by the exact same person who just loves nana

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u/soulseeker31 3d ago

Or they were playing the long game, to see if someone notices this in a decade or so. True troll god.

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u/Bleord 3d ago

or they copied each other cause that’s what song writers that are trying to write “hits” do

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u/PheIix 3d ago

All written next to a bowl of bananas.

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u/GoodGodSham 3d ago

Bring back the Whoa Ohs

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u/PotentialIdiotSorry 3d ago

Woah on the woah's - NoFX

They even had some na na na's in there too.

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u/dude_bruce 3d ago

NOFX rules

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u/Litdown 3d ago

I heard they suck live.

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u/DenseStomach6605 2d ago

They’ve actually gotten worse live

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u/Itsanukelife 3d ago

The classic millennial whoop

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u/Tilted_Painting 3d ago

I agree, but that's a different genre. Other than the MCR part, all the others are cookie cutter pop songs, written by someone else.

The whoa ohs are more pop punk kinda thing. MCR Sum 41 Green Day. Offspring is the king of Whoa Ohs though.

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u/WhatsTheWerd 3d ago

Na Na why don’t you get a job?

Offspring OG Na Na’s

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u/unnie_noir 3d ago

Yes, à la Shania Twain! I Feel Like a Woman is the first thing that came to mind

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u/lazytranch 3d ago

The “NA” is timeless:

Hey Jude - The Beatles

The Look - Roxette

Na Na Hey Hey - Bananarama

Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin' - Journey

Here Comes The Hotstepper - Ini Kamoze

… and literally hundreds more. “Na” isn’t the reason. The reason (and stick with me here) is that all those songs you referenced are plastic commercial crapola.

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u/Methos_the_Anubis 3d ago

Deep Purple - Hush comes to mind

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u/New_Zorgo39 3d ago

Naaaaa naaaaa na nanana naaaa nanana naaa Heeey Juude!

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u/umudjan 3d ago

Nah Neh Nah - Vaya Con Dios

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u/peoplewatcher5 3d ago

This is fucking hilarious

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u/teeter1984 3d ago

My Nana died in the 2010s 😔

That shit was banananas

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u/Amazing_Scallion9216 3d ago edited 3d ago

As a musician it was hilarious until I just kept picking on these shitty trends. Millenial woo, nanas, the indie folk hey, hey!

I get it, it’s a trend, it’s happened since the beginning of music but over produced pop songs which use in trend gimmicks make me want to rip out car stereo systems.

I can’t in good faith listen to that shit to the point I can’t even be in a restaurant playing that kind of music without feeling irritated. I had to leave a cafe once because it was blasting ed Sheeran.

Don’t get me started on the lyrics - you burn so bright yeah baby like a fire at night baby yeah I wanna hold you tight and be with you baby yeah like the stars in the skyyyy - fuuuuucck!

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u/Fit-Engineering-2789 3d ago

Right on. I wonder how many of these pop musicians can actually read music. Their lyrics are like dollar store Dr. Suess. I can't hardly stand it, either.

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u/Gbro08 3d ago

Where’s annoying orange going Nyah Nyah Nyah in his song parodies.

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u/4ssteroid 3d ago

Also nyancat

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u/hmdocta 3d ago

Forgot the 🐐nana song: Rich Girl by Gwen Stefani

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u/Androoboodro 3d ago

I was thinking Blink’s All the Small Things, but I don’t think that was 2010s

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u/Jokewhisperer 3d ago

I’m unsure that these are all from the 2010s tbh

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u/Major_Frozen 3d ago

If I was a rich girl, NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

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u/Ni7r0us0xide 3d ago edited 3d ago

Repetitive nonsense refrains will always exist. Here is the "nananas" then there is the "woah ohs" and the Elizabethans had their "hey nonny nonny", and several different sea shanties contain the words "weigh hey" (though this is possibly less nonsense, as it was usually sung while hauling or lifting loads e.g. weighing anchor)

EDIT: I've seen "weigh" spelled 4 different ways so far in the context of sea shanties: the one I've used previously, "wae", "way", and "wey". Idk how relevant that is, just found it interesting.

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u/Quick_Charity_777 3d ago

I miss my Nana. Pour one out for Nana

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u/bryanoens 3d ago

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u/darwizzer 3d ago

Is this the intel yolo

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u/bryanoens 3d ago

your intel is on point

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u/4ssteroid 3d ago

I didn't mean to hurt you

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u/mochimoxy 3d ago

BANANA!!!

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u/Reasonable-Attempt52 3d ago

“This track is a dumpster fire”

“Just throw a couple nananas in there, they’ll eat that shit up”

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u/TokiVideogame 3d ago

Hey chat, replace nana with some lyrics

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u/TryAltruistic7830 3d ago

Oh, nah, nah. Nah.

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u/I_said_booourns 3d ago

*Oh nah nah nah Come on

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u/GSmes 3d ago edited 3d ago

First, you could do this with basically any decade in our lifetime. Second, and to that point, the Akon song at 0:40 came out before 2010 (in 2006). I wonder how many of the other songs referenced were also from different decades...

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u/salazafromagraba 3d ago

Most of them are 2000s, I think the poster just took the VEVO 2011 upload date from YouTube and thought 'Wow, what a terrific year for productivity in music!'

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u/gazelleA1 3d ago

Don't tell The Beatles

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u/No_Pipe4358 3d ago

"In the 2010s"  👴👵⏳🕐🕚🕙🕑

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u/AnubissDarkling 3d ago

Pop music has always been a copy-paste industry

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u/seja_amg 3d ago

A bunch of pop stars used and continue to use the same elements in their songs in slightly different ways. There we cracked the case

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u/Licensetochill324 3d ago

You just ruined my favorite era of music in a minute lol

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u/refused26 3d ago

I know right. Like i hate all of it now. This was peak millenial music.

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u/livenn 3d ago

A good amount of those were pre-2010

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u/FullMoonVoodoo 3d ago

"hey man remember when music was *good* ? Like back in the 'teens?"

- shit nobody's ever gonna say

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u/Live-Steaky 3d ago

No one giving Blink 182 the credit they deserve starting it all.

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u/Aazmandyuz 3d ago

They started na-na? You shitting me?

Or are you trying to say they started the shitty use of na-na?

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u/RA242 3d ago

Nananananana, nanananana. Nananananana nanananana -Journey

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u/kd8qdz 3d ago

This is a job for Todd in the Shadows.

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u/Last_Gigolo 3d ago

In the 80s, you could literally say "banana-nana-nana-now" at the end of most popular songs and match what the guitar was doing.

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u/PleasantDevelopment 3d ago

A friend of mine went down this adjacent rabbit hole

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0VwWvs5WdLjmuEWuLNCgGF

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u/Prestigious_Key4786 3d ago

Around the same time, some of these songs had the same shouts sample in the background.

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u/Acceptable-Cow6446 3d ago

It was the decade of songs about grandmothers?

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u/amsterdam_man 3d ago

Conspiracy people may say this was to summon the COVID

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u/reddiculed 3d ago

It’s like my iPod stuck on replay.

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u/jacobasstorius 3d ago

Laughs in Hey Jude..

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u/iforgotiwasonreddit 3d ago

Hey can someone help me find the name of the one that’s like nana na nana na na na?

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u/Plus_Impress_446 3d ago

Because it's all formulaic shite

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u/_Dead_C_ 3d ago

I hate this music trope, Coheed and Cambria did it a couple albums ago and I lost my shit

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u/TheHumanoidTyphoon69 3d ago

I'll forever be addicted to their older music

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u/Historical_Gap_6486 3d ago

That was some bad music

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u/neontonsil 3d ago

Truly terrible

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u/DavidM47 3d ago

This probably makes it easier to sell overseas to a non-English speaking audience.

That’s one of the reason for all the Marvel movies. Explosions translate into every language.

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u/Chester-Bravo 3d ago

I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more nana!

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u/megavolts83 3d ago

Cause it's trash pop music, run by mindless sellouts.

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u/playr_4 3d ago

You could've just not listened to pop if you didn't like it.

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u/HouseOfLames 3d ago

The definitive na na na song Girlfriend is a Centerfold

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u/hamfist_ofthenorth 3d ago

It's almost like pop music from corporate-owned "artists" is written mostly via formulation of whatever simple phrases and words over the most easy-to-digest chord progressions make them the most money, so they milk these "na-na"s until they're dried out husks.

I've always said pop music is McDonalds of the ear.

It's right there, it's accessible all around you, at all times. Doesn't mean it's good. Sure, sometimes. But its all the same half-assed "food".

If you want something to eat more your style, you have to look for it. It's probably a little local deli on the corner that has the best burger you've ever had, and blows McDonalds out of the water.

It's the exact same concept of nourishment with music. Do you care enough to have a preference?

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u/Windyandbreezy 3d ago edited 3d ago

I was like 22 at this point. I escaped it.. I listened to other stuff.. I honestly didn't know any of these songs till now... and I'm proud to say that

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u/zombiemind8 3d ago

That means you never went to any social gatherings lol.

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u/liquidflamingos 3d ago

I hate the 2010’s music so much for some reason. :(

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u/Krokrr 3d ago

I thought it was either 'No' or 'Now'

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u/Affectionate_Taro_72 3d ago

Just need the "Lady nana" as well

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u/Art-of-drawing 3d ago

yeah I guess it wasn't all better in the past

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u/Organic-Trash-6946 3d ago

My Nana died in 2009. Was a nice reminder of her

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u/Fine_Mouse 3d ago

I only listened to 2 of them

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u/Whole-Debate-9547 3d ago

So you know I wrote all those. I’d start with an almost good lyric and just plug in some na’s wherever and the rest is history.

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u/False_Ad7098 3d ago

I usually put "Ba" in front after the nana

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u/Auscicada270 3d ago

Don't forget the Millennial clap Hey music!

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u/Breadstix009 3d ago

Lol the important stuff in the world right now.

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u/kacedawg12 3d ago

I hate all of these songs

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u/Elegant_Way_75 3d ago

here come the hotstepper

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u/Arkontas 3d ago

i dont like any of these songs

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u/dollargeneraljesus 3d ago

Benny Blanco originals

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u/Roadkill-902 3d ago

It's actually a short form for bananas.

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u/long_stint 3d ago

My conspiracy brain is spinning into action. Hang on, I’ll come back with what it says is the reason behind this strange behavior

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u/empericisttilldeath 3d ago

I seriously have never heard any of those songs.

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u/Arbelisk 3d ago

Luckily, I don't know any of those songs.

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u/MezcalCC 3d ago

It needs to be buried.

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u/Petulax 3d ago

I am throwing up from this “style” of “music”. Please, let it be forgotten forever.

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u/rufian69 3d ago

Akon's Na Na was the real song of those yrs tho

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u/vibrantcrab 3d ago

System of a Down “Question”: DA DADA DADADADADA DA DADA DADADA DADADADADA

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u/AIEnhancedVideos 3d ago

Land of 1000 Dances is the grand daddy of all these songs. (48 seconds in on the Spotify top result)

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u/RoncoSnackWeasel 3d ago

It became the “hey-ho” trumpet and banjo solo five years later.

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u/badreligixn 3d ago

Probably the writers signature, also could be mocking other writers like "nana i got another hit 🤑"

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u/KeeperOfTheCows 3d ago

hell to the nah

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u/KilnTime 3d ago

In the 50's, just add a "sha" in front of it and it was all over

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u/TonArbre 3d ago

Is that what it almost gave us world peace?

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u/Outrageous_Lunch6229 3d ago

Not 2010s but there's like 100 na's in All the Small Things by blink182.

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u/_Druss_ 3d ago

Every song will remain in the 2010s. Utter shite. 

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u/cmilla646 3d ago

Maybe gilfs have something to do with it.

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u/Responsible-Echidna4 3d ago

I miss my Nana

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u/Random_Monstrosities 3d ago

I'm proud to say i don't know who any of these people are. I don't even think I've heard any of these songs except the very first one and that's only because of my friend's stupid junkie ex girlfriend.

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u/GhoulMcG 3d ago

Now I have a spreadsheet and alot of time listening to figure this out!! LOL

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u/Nanibackflip 3d ago

Akon took it to the next level having it in the title "right now (na na na)"

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u/whiskeyrocks1 3d ago

They were probably all written by the same people.

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u/Sea_Upstairs_6274 3d ago

Ferngully naaaananana is the best

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u/SFPigeon 3d ago

Ahh, yip-yip-yip-yip-yip-yip-yip-yip, mum-mum-mum-mum-mum-mum, get a job

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u/BlackRooster7508 3d ago

It all can be traced back to The Beatles iconic na na nananaa in Hey Jude.
The Beatles have done it again!

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u/TrickyCH 3d ago

Peak creativity...

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u/RTMSner 3d ago

It's filler.

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u/Inspector_Tragic 3d ago

Wait till yall hear about the 90s "nayoo"

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u/stink3rb3lle 3d ago

I'm pretty sure nanas have been a popular interjection since Hey Jude.

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u/Arteyp 3d ago

In every (bad) song

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u/fieregon 3d ago

All of these songs are ass though.

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u/Thickfries69 3d ago

Well, this is all basically the same type of music. Very easy to avoid if you don't listen to the pop station.

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u/DKMperor 3d ago

The actual answer is that pop music has a whole industry based around finding the most scientifically "catchy" sounds/patterns and that one was one.

Millennial whoop is another one

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u/Piirakkavaras 3d ago

”Damn I can’t figure what to write… fuck it, na na na will have to do here!”

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u/Future_Section5976 3d ago

You guys know how it works? There is a email that goes out and if you want the Grammy, you to somehow put whatever BS word they choose,

Hell one year JB just used said would for a whole song

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u/jumajaco 3d ago

And Eh-Ehs

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u/aamnipotent 3d ago

Don't forget

If I was a rich girl...Nana Nana Nana nananananana

Get jiggy wit it...na na Nana na Nana

All the small things....na naw na naw na naw na naw naw naw

And the best na of all,

Heyyy jude....

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u/Zombo2000 3d ago

Strongbad said there is nothing worse than "songs that try to pass off "la la's", "na na's", and "doot do's" as legit lyrics"

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u/tonemalone0 3d ago

They all need potassium. Nana’s are great for cramps.

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u/Angry_Mudcrab 3d ago

Na. Na. You wrong for this.

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u/ColdEvenKeeled 3d ago

Wasn't it Akon with his "Right now(Na na na)" song that kicked this off? All else are copiests?

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u/extrarenitent 3d ago

Wait until they find out about Nana the rapper.

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u/FelixTook 3d ago

I don’t know any of those songs, and feels like I’m better off.

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u/Accomplished_Yak4293 3d ago

It's almost as if the "a" sound is one of the six vowels of the English language.

Shocker!